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It is past time to impeach (Saturbray)
www.braylog.com ^ | 7/26/14 | bray

Posted on 07/26/2014 7:26:44 PM PDT by bray

Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see. Hebrews 11:1 NIV

It is time to impeach this Marxist dictator, not for this generation, but for generations to come. It is time for America to send the message that this is still a country of laws even for the lawless. This is not a political message, it is a message that nobody is above the law and especially the most powerful person in the land. This is once again calling on the most democratic institution in the land, our House of Representatives to do the right thing and bring charges of impeachment against Barak Obama.

There are numerous reasons for charges, beginning with the assault on the American people with the IRS, NSA and ATF in an attempt to intimidate them into stopping political dissent over Obamacare. Richard Nixon was impeached for threatening to use the IRS to harass people with his Enemies List and Obama actually used the IRS to stop Conservative groups from organizing the way the Liberal groups are organized. The hearings are showing that it was a conspiracy which was obviously coordinated by the White House and he needs to be held responsible for that.

In addition to the conspiracy to take the Rights away from his opposition of free speech, he needs to be held responsible in the destruction of evidence in a House investigation. The destruction of the hard drives and emails is a breaking of numerous laws passed since Nixon. It would seem to be impossible to actually destroy emails in an organization like the gummit, so there is either lying, cover up or both. This needs to be investigated and those guilty charged with crimes which are basic to maintaining a free and open administration.

The second item of impeachment would be his exceeding his power as president by declaring executive orders that is either changing laws or making up new laws. The power to change laws is strictly a function of the House and Senate so what he is doing is far outside his role of signer and enforcer of those laws. He is bordering on dictatorship as he picks and chooses who and what he will enforce with a tunnel vision towards destroying the free markets. His unilateral writing laws through his EPA to enforce fraudulent Global Warming theories is something that needs to be debated in the congress rather than behind closed doors in an agency full of Marxist extremists. The exceeding his authority is the biggest reason to impeach him to define the parameters of that office.

The third item for impeachment has to be his ignoring the sovereignty of this country. To open the borders to the entirety of South America is a complete assault on this country and its reason for being. This is not the United Countries of America it is the United States which means it has a border between itself and Mexico as well as Canada. His latest tactic with the organized importation of children into this country to sidestep a law needs to be investigated and charges brought against the criminals. This is as a horrific a tactic as anybody has tried and fits right into the tactics used against Israel by Code Pink and Bill Ayers which was coordinated by the White House. If there is a criminal conspiracy with this outrageous tactic to force amnesty on the American taxpayer, charges must be brought.

These are only the three most outrageous charges which should be an automatic indictment for the Senate to decide. Many believe it would be a waste of time assuming that the Dems would march lockstep like they did for Clinton when that is not a foregone conclusion. He is not as popular as he was a year ago and this latest border incursion even his most ardent supporters are beginning to question their loyalty. These Nicaraguans are going to be taking their jobs and subsidies making them reconsider their blind following of someone who cares more about Hispanic votes than theirs. It may be fashionable for him and his fellow Georgetown Marxists, but blacks are asking how we can add 10 million Mexicans to welfare rolls when we can’t take care of our own. How are they going to get or keep their entry level jobs when you have new arrivals who will work for free?

The messiah factor is gone and the problem with rock stars is once they lose their luster they are thrown away and forgotten. The only reason he had the support he had was due to his being black and the White guilt built into most liberals. They believed they were paying the black man back for the sins of their forefathers who owned slaves, ignoring the 500,000 who already gave their lives to end slavery nationwide. In addition to their warm feelings from voting for a black man they also believed he was a new Abraham Lincoln who would lead their country into a new millennium and a Utopian society and economy. He was the anti-Bush who was painted for 8 years as a monster and he was now going to be their actual messiah to turn America into the land of milk and honey. Rather, he has turned it into spit and vinegar and Americans are waking up to that reality.

Finally, he would be able to golf full time and not be bothered with that leading hassle. Leadership is a learned skill and he has never bothered to develop it. He has absolutely no leadership qualities and is completely ruled by his hatred of America and the free market. That is why he believed the ends justified the means and still does. This is why he is about to declare all Mexicans who are living inside the US as citizens with the right to vote which is far beyond his power. In the end by all appearances he would like to retire early and move on to his speaking and adoration tours while playing the entire exclusive courses full time. Impeachment would be a badge of honor which could only add to his post presidency appeal, so it is doubtful he would even mind being impeached.

The political aspect of this decision should not stop the House from filing counts of impeachment. The general thought is that it would hurt Republicans, but that is not a sure thing. America is looking for leadership and this would be laying down a line that cannot be crossed and voters would likely appreciate this. His favorability and likability is in freefall and if people were honest about it he is not a very likable person. It is one thing to be a partisan and pull for your team, but to be absolutely nasty and ignore them completely is not American. He is a caustic person and it is even money that when it goes to Senate that there could be a large majority who want him impeached including the Clinton wing of the Dems.

It is time to impeach the president to build a wall between a dictator and the people. This country was built on the absolute freedom between the people and a monarchy. This division has been worn down over time although there has never been a president who believed that he should be a dictator until now. He believes he knows what is best for America and that is to turn it into a Marxist Monarchy with his fellow Marxists forcing people to live the way they want them to live. He has destroyed so much of the economy and freedoms it will take decades to repair, but now is the time to begin. This has nothing to do with elections coming up, but has everything to do with enforcing the parameters the fathers of this country designed and the protection of the freedoms of the individual. It is time for some leaders to stand up and prove to America there are still things you can believe in and the first and foremost is that nobody is above the law.

Pray America wakes up


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1 posted on 07/26/2014 7:26:44 PM PDT by bray
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To: bray

No it’s not. Obama is begging to be impeached. It’s all political to him.

He’s incompetent as a leader. His hope now is that republicans try to impeach him and it would embolden the democrats.

Why throw this thug a life-vest?


2 posted on 07/26/2014 7:30:41 PM PDT by boycott
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To: boycott

Agree. Obama WANTS to be impeached. He knows his only constituency that still supports him, the Black Vote, will come his aid.


3 posted on 07/26/2014 7:34:45 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Ob)
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To: boycott

And you know it would help him? Can you tell me what the lottery numbers are on Weds too. I will split it with you.


4 posted on 07/26/2014 7:36:02 PM PDT by bray (Palin/Bibi 2016)
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To: boycott

Far more reasons for than against but Boehner is the cowardly lion.


5 posted on 07/26/2014 7:39:19 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (GOP = The Whig Party)
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To: MuttTheHoople

“Agreed. Obama WANTS to be impeached.”

Let’s impeach him in our hearts.

Maybe there are other ways to stick it to the little dictator.


6 posted on 07/26/2014 7:40:55 PM PDT by garjog (Obama: bringing joy to the hearts of Terrorists everywhere.)
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To: boycott

After watching the disgusting behavior of the Senate Republicans in the co called trial of Slick Willie, and knowing that there probably is not a single Dem in the Senate that would vote to convict Obama, (no matter what he did), impeachment would be pointless. The media would love it, love using it to eviscerate the CLUELESS Republican Party.

He should be in leg irons, but impeachment while knowing that there is not a 1 in a million chance the Senate would vote to convict, would have no positive value for the country or conservatives. I suspect it would pump up Dem attendance at the polls in November.


7 posted on 07/26/2014 7:42:06 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: boycott

Why throw this thug a life-vest?


Exactly.


8 posted on 07/26/2014 7:42:45 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: boycott
His hope now is that republicans try to impeach him and it would embolden the democrats.

Yeah we shouldn't do anything against Obama. It only emboldens Democrats: Boehner

9 posted on 07/26/2014 7:54:20 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: MuttTheHoople
Agree. Obama WANTS to be impeached. He knows his only constituency that still supports him, the Black Vote, will come his aid.

Yeah we shouldn't do anything against Obama. It only emboldens Blacks: McConnell.

10 posted on 07/26/2014 7:56:04 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: bray

I think it’s close enough to the upcoming election to get impeachment proceedings started, to develop the dialogue, present the case to America, and then see the results in November. IF America takes the Senate for the people, we will be at the ready. Slow Joe will be difficult for the
Democrats to keep credible. 2016 will be ours IF we can control the party.


11 posted on 07/26/2014 7:56:09 PM PDT by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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To: boycott

I wish people would STOP calling him incompetent. He is NOT incompetent. He has accomplished all he said he’d do when running in 2008. He said that America needed to be brought to its knees financially and politically. He’s done that. He loves it when people think he is incompetent, and even though I believe he is incompetent in acting lawfully, that is totally different. He is acting in the manner he predicted he would. What is incompetent about that?

He is an narcissist, when you consider that he acts like a spoiled brat, he is thin-skinnned, he knows only socialism and cannot even think how to do real capitalism, but as far as accomplishing his goals, he is on track. He has stuck it out, dragging the country down and making it impossible to turn America back easily. I personally think that at the end of the day he is quite pleased with himself. Otherwise, why do you think that he thumbs his nose at us, not to mention the middle finger salute with all these games of golf, vacations, etc. He is playing everybody else for a fool, except maybe Sarah Palin and a few of others of us.


12 posted on 07/26/2014 7:58:04 PM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: bray

Thanks for posting an article that lays out the exact charges 0bama would be impeached on. I confess I have not been following this issue as much as I would like, and I can think of so many ways in which 0bama has overstepped the Constitutional limits of his power that it’s hard to narrow it down to just 3.

0bama is an empty vessel tossed by the wind and current of popular opinion or rather what his advisers tell him is popular opinion. America needs and deserves a real leader, one who is not afraid to sacrifice short-term popularity over long-term benefits to this country and puts the interests of We the People above those of the political elite. Sadly I have yet to see such a leader from either party.


13 posted on 07/26/2014 8:00:23 PM PDT by SoCal SoCon (Conservatism =/= Corporatism.)
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To: bray

And you know it would help him? Can you tell me what the lottery numbers are on Weds too. I will split it with you.


Are you kidding? The liberal media would love to take the focus off the Obama train wreck BEFORE THE NOVEMBER ELECTIONS. He has a 39% approval rating.

You must have missed how the media responded to Bill Clinton’s impeachment.

If the media could spin Hussein Obama out of the rev. Jeremiah Wright “G.. D... America” tapes, his poll numbers would rise to new heights.

Besides, the liberal media will only use bozo republicans — John McLame and sweetie Lindsey Graham — on the news every night to express the republican side. The demos would love it.


14 posted on 07/26/2014 8:00:44 PM PDT by boycott
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To: bray

Hey Bray, good rant. Remember, everything 0 does that is illegal is immediately null and void. Thus any amnesty he provides is not amnesty. Any law he tries to change still stands as he has no authority to do so. All his changes to 0 care are illegal. This makes him a criminal and nothing else is necessary for impeachment. The dims are good at warfare. They took over the courts replacing judges with marxists activists and now they have the senate which will protect 0. Regardless, it is the duty of the congress to impeach the criminal in the white house. Chips fall where they may.


15 posted on 07/26/2014 8:02:27 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: All

What do you think the odds are that 0 actually will be impeached? Given that he would be tried by the Dem-controlled Senate? Even if he does get impeached we will have President Biden to look forward to, and he is likely to follow the same policies as 0bummer.


16 posted on 07/26/2014 8:02:54 PM PDT by SoCal SoCon (Conservatism =/= Corporatism.)
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To: FreeReign

His hope now is that republicans try to impeach him and it would embolden the democrats.
Yeah we shouldn’t do anything against Obama. It only emboldens Democrats: Boehner


I am okay with impeaching him but AFTER THE NOVEMBER ELECTIONS.

http://www.wnd.com/2014/07/congressman-at-border-obama-begging-to-be-impeached/


17 posted on 07/26/2014 8:03:18 PM PDT by boycott
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To: boycott
I am okay with impeaching him but AFTER THE NOVEMBER ELECTIONS.

The media will energize the Democrat base no matter what the Republicans do.

The Republicans can energize their base only if they(the Republicans) do the right thing.

18 posted on 07/26/2014 8:06:19 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Manic_Episode

Far more reasons for than against but Boehner is the cowardly lion.


Obama wants to be impeached. He is an ignorant S.O.B. when it comes to anything other than community organizing. HE WANTS TO TAKE THE ATTENTION OFF HIS FAILED GOVERNING. He wants to make it POLITICAL.

The dems haven’t a clue about governing. There is no logic to their agenda and that’s why IT’S A HUGE FAILURE. They want their base to focus on POLITICAL BS instead of what they’re actually doing.

http://www.wnd.com/2014/07/congressman-at-border-obama-begging-to-be-impeached/


19 posted on 07/26/2014 8:09:19 PM PDT by boycott
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To: FreeReign

Do you actually believe Obama would be removed from office if he’s impeached? I sure hope you don’t think so. It would only be for show — a show the demos would love. It would just an opportunity to the media to make republicans look like clowns (the ones the media would pick to be on the news every night are clowns).


20 posted on 07/26/2014 8:12:46 PM PDT by boycott
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To: boycott
Why throw this thug a life-vest?

Because it is the right thing to do, he is lawless and Congress ignores it, it is their job, whether the Senate convicts or not.

If someone prominent walks into a crowd of people and opens fire, do we not bring him to trial just because he is popular and may not get convicted, I think not.

21 posted on 07/26/2014 8:13:10 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: boycott

Funny how I have won 5 elections in a blue state doing just the opposite of what conventional wisdom says. Now what are those lottery numbers?


22 posted on 07/26/2014 8:14:21 PM PDT by bray (Palin/Bibi 2016)
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To: itsahoot

Obama and the demos would like to send you a thank you card.


23 posted on 07/26/2014 8:15:29 PM PDT by boycott
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To: Shery
I wish people would STOP calling him incompetent. He is NOT incompetent. He has accomplished all he said he’d do when running in 2008.

Even Freepers have given up if the post on this thread are any indication.

The Senate be damned, he must be charged with the crimes he is committing against the Constitution, or we had just as well get ready to get on the train.

24 posted on 07/26/2014 8:17:09 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: boycott
Do you actually believe Obama would be removed from office if he’s impeached? I sure hope you don’t think so. It would only be for show — a show the demos would love. It would just an opportunity to the media to make republicans look like clowns (the ones the media would pick to be on the news every night are clowns).

You ignored my post. I'll say it again.

The media will energize the Democrat base no matter what the Republicans do. The Republicans can energize their base only if they(the Republicans) do the right thing.

25 posted on 07/26/2014 8:18:16 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: bray

Funny how I have won 5 elections in a blue state doing just the opposite of what conventional wisdom says. Now what are those lottery numbers?


Funny how blue states and blue districts aren’t always the same.

Personally, it wouldn’t break my heart if they locked him in a prison cell and never let him see the light of day again. I am just thinking it would play right into his hands.


26 posted on 07/26/2014 8:18:16 PM PDT by boycott
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To: boycott
Opps. Repeating post with correct formatting.

Do you actually believe Obama would be removed from office if he’s impeached? I sure hope you don’t think so. It would only be for show — a show the demos would love. It would just an opportunity to the media to make republicans look like clowns (the ones the media would pick to be on the news every night are clowns).

You ignored my post. I'll say it again.

The media will energize the Democrat base no matter what the Republicans do. The Republicans can energize their base only if they(the Republicans) do the right thing.

27 posted on 07/26/2014 8:19:23 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Manic_Episode; dead; MeshugeMikey

~~~but Boehner is the cowardly lion.~~~

Now, now, there’s no reason to insult the cowardly lion.

Hey, that would make a good graphic if not already done.


28 posted on 07/26/2014 8:19:26 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: bray

Whether it would help him or hurt him to one side, the fact of the matter is we simply do not have the votes in the Senate to carry an impeachment to removal from office.

Bubba Clinton proved that impeachment itself, is a toothless punishment. He WAS impeached, the trial was held, but they didn’t get the votes to remove from office. Now, if we can’t do that when we hold the Senate, how in the world do you expect to do it when we don’t?

Who’s that guy who said that if Clinton had raped an intern and shot her dead on the White House lawn the Republicans still wouldn’t bet enough votes to convict? It’d be like that, but even more so. There is not one Democrat Senator and very damn few Republican Senators, who have the balls to go up against the Obama regime that personally.


29 posted on 07/26/2014 8:19:35 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: SoCal SoCon
What do you think the odds are that 0 actually will be impeached?

Do you know the difference in Impeached and Convicted. Clinton was impeached, not convicted.

30 posted on 07/26/2014 8:20:08 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: MuttTheHoople
Agree. Obama WANTS to be impeached. He knows his only constituency that still supports him, the Black Vote, will come his aid.

Brer Rabbit and the Briar Patch comes to mind.
31 posted on 07/26/2014 8:20:54 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: boycott
Obama and the demos would like to send you a thank you card.

I think they just did.

32 posted on 07/26/2014 8:21:53 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: FreeReign

The media will energize the Democrat base no matter what the Republicans do. The Republicans can energize their base only if they(the Republicans) do the right thing.


Sure I read it. It meant little to me. There is energizing the base and there is ENERGIZING THE BASE! Right now, the demo base certainly isn’t energized and I don’t see that happening much between now and November.


33 posted on 07/26/2014 8:22:19 PM PDT by boycott
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To: MuttTheHoople

The charge needs to be giving aid and comfort to the enemy. And those who have supported him can join him.


34 posted on 07/26/2014 8:22:32 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: itsahoot

I think you need to think harder, FRiend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4D470YSl2Y#t=106

Obama’s the rabbit. Who plays the fox and the bear? Not me.


35 posted on 07/26/2014 8:23:57 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Ronin
Who’s that guy who said that if Clinton had raped an intern and shot her dead

Why I do believe it was that well known conservative Trent Lott. </sarcasm>

36 posted on 07/26/2014 8:24:07 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: Ronin

You don’t know and neither do I. Sometimes you have to ignore the politics and do what is right. You realize if they took a vote for independence in 1776 it would have never passed. Leaders stood up and risked everything to do the right thing.


37 posted on 07/26/2014 8:25:18 PM PDT by bray (Palin/Bibi 2016)
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To: 1010RD
Obama’s the rabbit. Who plays the fox and the bear? Not me.

I play neither and Obama appreciates your support.

38 posted on 07/26/2014 8:26:40 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: FreeReign
The media will energize the Democrat base no matter what the Republicans do. The Republicans can energize their base only if they(the Republicans) do the right thing.

The Dems and the media wouldn't be screaming bloody murder about the "imminent" impeachment if they felt they could motivate their base better through other means.

This is a complete desperation ploy on their part. I'm guessing that their polls are showing them cratering across the board. Fewer and fewer people are buying what they're selling. For anecdotal example, a few weeks back a few Libs I'm friends with on FB came out trumpeting the huge growth in new jobs. When I pointed out that the increase was a net figure based on 800k new part time jobs offsetting a lost of about 520k full time jobs they just deleted their posts. That's a big change for them, since normally they'd argue the to bitter end.
39 posted on 07/26/2014 8:29:00 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: boycott
The media will energize the Democrat base no matter what the Republicans do. The Republicans can energize their base only if they(the Republicans) do the right thing.

Sure I read it. It meant little to me. There is energizing the base and there is ENERGIZING THE BASE! Right now, the demo base certainly isn’t energized and I don’t see that happening much between now and November.

The media can make up anything and it will energize their base. That's what they do. They got Obama elected twice. They did it by making things up in October and energizing their base.

They did it while Republicans played timid. That's your strategy. It has failed. How many times do you want to keep on trying it?

40 posted on 07/26/2014 8:29:27 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: F15Eagle
BoeBoe...the cowardly lion,,...and georgie soros as SATAN himself...


41 posted on 07/26/2014 8:35:53 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: FreeReign
The media can make up anything and it will energize their base. That's what they do. They got Obama elected twice. They did it by making things up in October and energizing their base.

Presidential election year with a very Liberal Black President on the ballot.

This is a mid-term election. Completely different environment. The President's party normally loses seats, and in cases where the President and his policies are unpopular normally gets its teeth kicked in.

What should matter are economic issues, with a decidedly local emphasis. The Republicans do stand a good chance of nationalizing the election based on economic stagnation and Obamacare, which might produce a wave. Having the Party in power nationalize the election on its chosen issue is pretty rare. Bush did it in 2002 based on national security and the War on Terror. But that was a real fluke.

The Dems are, seemingly, trying to nationalize the election based on the threat that the GOP will impeach. That's an incredibly weak case to make, will only work if the GOP gives it to them. The better option is to go all Alinsky and ridicule the hell out of them for trying. Which seems to be the path a lot of Republicans are taking.
42 posted on 07/26/2014 8:36:50 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: FreeReign

Okay. Go ahead and impeach him.


43 posted on 07/26/2014 8:38:52 PM PDT by boycott
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To: MuttTheHoople

“Agree. Obama WANTS to be impeached. He knows his only
constituency that still supports him, the Black vote,
will come to his aid.”

I concur but Obama has at least two more constituencies,
the MSM and the low information voters served by the MSM.
If impeachment was tried it would result in a GOP electoral
bloodbath and Obama would remain. Even if the GOP takes
control of the Senate in November it would be a bad idea
and a wasted effort.


44 posted on 07/26/2014 8:40:47 PM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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To: tanknetter

Your right, we have to show the country we are nice and play defense to win big. Being offensive might upset those precious moderates who win all the elections. After all Rove and the Establishment say so and they have never lost.

What if you led and America rallied behind you, what then?


45 posted on 07/26/2014 8:43:47 PM PDT by bray (Palin/Bibi 2016)
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To: bray

The right time to have ended this sham would have been during the ‘08 campaign. It’s still not too late.


46 posted on 07/26/2014 8:44:44 PM PDT by bgill
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To: bray; All

Please bear in mind that patriots and former Obama supporters need to know the following concerning impeaching Obama out of office. Patriots need to make sure that 2/3 of post-2014 election senators are willing to vote to remove Obama from office should the House vote to impeach him after the elections.


47 posted on 07/26/2014 8:49:00 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: itsahoot

You really don’t get it, do you?


48 posted on 07/26/2014 8:49:34 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Amendment10

Not necessarily. Sometimes you have to do the right thing.

Can you tell me who is going to win the Super Bowl next year or the year after that? If not, you are just guessing.


49 posted on 07/26/2014 8:56:51 PM PDT by bray (Palin/Bibi 2016)
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To: bray
I love these management by no types. They make Boehner look like Rambo.
50 posted on 07/26/2014 8:59:14 PM PDT by bray (Palin/Bibi 2016)
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