Skip to comments.What happened? The day Flight 17 was downed
Posted on 07/27/2014 5:55:27 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
Even before the plane was downed, the AP had reported on the presence of the missile launcher in the town July 17.
AP journalists saw the Buk moving through town at 1:05 p.m.....
About three hours later, at 4:18 p.m.... the Buk's crew snapped to attention when a spotter called in a report of an incoming airplane.
"A bird is flying to you," the spotter tells the rebel, identified by the Ukrainians as Igor Bezler, an insurgent commander who ... is also a Russian intelligence officer.
The man identified as Bezler responds: "Reconnaissance plane or a big one?"
"I can't see behind the clouds. Too high," the spotter replies.
The rebel official who spoke to the AP about the incident said that Bezler commanded another fighter, code-named Sapper, who was the ranking rebel officer with the missile launcher at the time.
According to the rebel official, Sapper led a rebel unit, about half of which was made up of men from far eastern Russia ....
Sapper is from the nearby town of Yenakiieve, he said. The town also happens to be the home of the former president, Yanukovych.
Sapper could not be reached for comment ...
At about 4:20 p.m., in the town of Torez, six miles (10 kilometers) west of Snizhne, residents heard loud noises. Some reported hearing two blasts ....
At 4:40 p.m., in another intercepted call released by Ukraine, the man identified as Bezler tells his own superior that the unit had shot down a plane.
"Just shot down a plane. It was Sapper's group. It went down beyond Yenakiieve," the man says....
As for the Buk, Nayda said, intelligence suggests it went back on the move shortly after the attack.
That very night, he said, it crossed the border, back into Russia.
(Excerpt) Read more at wsls.com ...
did Emperor Obama draw a red line in Ukraine?
Police visit to MH17 disaster site canceled
While it was not immediately clear where precisely clashes had broken out, a Ukrainian defense official said Sunday that government forces are now undertaking efforts to clear the areas around the Boeing 777 crash site from separatist rebels....
“This is a risky mission. There’s no doubt about that,” Abbott told reporters. “But all the professional advice that I have is that the safest way to conduct it is unarmed, as part of a police-led humanitarian mission,”...
The Malaysia Airlines disaster prompted some expectations in the West that Russia would scale back its involvement in the uprising in Ukraine’s east, but the opposite seems to be the case.
It cannot be true. Only Putin tells the truth.//Sarcasm off.
I hadn't seen that.
Now we KNOW that Barry knew there was at least one missile launcher there.
There are two sides to every story. The Russian have put forth their case here. 10 more questions Russian military pose to Ukraine, US over MH17 crash. Just so you know it's a Russian Newspaper site.
Like TWA Flight 800 I don't think this is going to get resolved anytime soon.
Is that you, Sapper???
That’s all you can come up with are personal insults?
I thought it was a compliment — for you atleast.
Russian military and Russian terrorists under Putin’s orders shot down MH-17 carrying 298 civilians, whether it was mistaken for a Ukrainian transport plane or not means squat.
"I can't see behind the clouds. Too high," the spotter replies to Belzer.
It was too high to be a military plane but he shot it down anyway with callous disregard for human life.