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UKRAINE Horlivka: Terrorists threaten to blow up a chemical plant and shoot captives
obozrevatel.com ^ | July 27, 2014 | Russian journalist Timur Olevsk

Posted on 07/27/2014 7:40:00 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com

When the bombardment or assault by TERRORISTS under the leadership of Horlivka "Boatswain" promised to BLOW UP chemical plant and SHOOT the prisoners. About it on his Facebook page told a Russian journalist Timur Olevsk.

"Phoned the hostage from Besa. He said that now commands the "Boatswain". He put forward an ULTIMATUM. If [ATU - Armed Forces of Ukraine] repeat shelling of Horlivka or will storm the city, militants will blow up chemical plants and shoot prisoners.

They need daily. This population so they protect from gradov apparently, poison him chemistry going, but still need to do something about it," the statement said.

Read: Road service confirmed that the undermining of the bridge in Zakotnom


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1 posted on 07/27/2014 7:40:00 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Video from yesterday, Kiev Grad volley on civilian/light industrial neighborhood in Gorlivka:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL4In-hSJmY

There some VERY gruesome and graphic videos of the aftermath of Kiev’s heavy shelling of Gorlivka on Twitter and Youtube showing many dead civilians.


2 posted on 07/27/2014 8:07:27 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
on his Facebook page

It must be true then.

3 posted on 07/27/2014 8:10:04 AM PDT by McGruff (We can't even secure our border never mind Ukraine's.)
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To: tcrlaf; All
There some VERY gruesome and graphic videos of the aftermath of Kiev’s heavy shelling of Gorlivka on Twitter and Youtube showing many dead civilians.

You should tell the people of Gorlovka that they should stick to twitter for their view of reality. They seem to think its the separatists shooting at civilians (like they usually do, to blame the Ukrainians). Killing your own people has been standard Russkie practice since Lenin.

"Ukrainska Pravda reports that between 20-30 people were killed today in Gorlovka when the centre of the town was struck by Grad rockets. One of the shells reportedly struck and exploded not far from the central maternity hospital. The rockets were reportedly fired from the outskirts of the town. Some local reports claimed they were fired by separatist militants. "

http://www.interpretermag.com/ukraine-liveblog-day-160-the-battle-for-the-donbass-intensifies/

4 posted on 07/27/2014 8:43:36 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Why yes, the Rebels have shelled, rocketed, and bombed themselves thousands of times just to make Kiev look bad, despite the thousand or more videos floating around that show otherwise.

It is quite the pity that you don’t use that brain for thinking. We’d all be better for it.


5 posted on 07/27/2014 9:28:31 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
despite the thousand or more videos floating around that show otherwise.

Your video did not show otherwise. It showed the result of rocket attacks, and then blamed it on Kiev, although the people there say otherwise.

It is quite the pity that you don’t use that brain for thinking. We’d all be better for it.

You are a liar and a propagandist, and sooner or later hell will swallow you up, and you'll get your due reward.

6 posted on 07/27/2014 9:30:22 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
Is this the same chemical plant the BBC reported on Kiev Coup Troops using Grads to shell early in June? I ask because the pictures you link to look like the same event with the video taken from a little different angle. Same lighting, etc.

Since this chemical plant is owned and operated by a Russian company (some sources say a single individual owns controlling interest), according to you the Separatists (the ones the Kiev propaganda shills on FR claim are Putin's minions) are now destroying Russian owned and operated property, expensive property at least it seems, that the owners have little hope of being compensated for.

I noticed that when Separatists took refuge from Kiev Coup Troops shelling in the rail yard at a Steel Mill owned by one of Candyman's pals the Kiev Coup Troops didn't shell them anymore. Just stopped cold. When the Kiev Coup Troops start shelling the factories and facilities owned by Candyman and his pals you let us know, Ok?

Yup, sure, Russian owned it, it's shelled. Oligarchs in Kiev own it, never touched. Well, who can argue that's not proof positive the Russians are in control of the Separatists !! And proof straight from Facebook that's seven eights full of naked cat pictures and Photoshopped garbage.

The Separatists have done amazingly little damage to the infrastructure and factories in the areas they control. They absolutely havn't gone out of their way to blow up plants and factories in the area. The Kiev Coup Troops, however, hae bragged time and again about shelling and bombing factories.

Just more regurgitation of whatever some Kiev Coup cheerleader puts on Facebook.

Exactly what you would expect from a dupe or shill.

7 posted on 07/27/2014 9:58:42 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin

I will not respond to your attempt at character assassination of me.

I post with integrity and give documentation. You are responsible to make your own choice of what to believe.


8 posted on 07/27/2014 10:15:54 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

You are totally correct. There is a horrific photo of a young mother & child. The sooner Ukraine is rid of terrorist Separatists the sooner they can rebuild their nation.


9 posted on 07/27/2014 10:18:05 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

You sure love trolling and name calling, but I don’t hear anything from you about THE POINT OF THE article, that being Kiev violating its own self-declared “Cease-fire”.

Now why is that, do you suppose??


10 posted on 07/27/2014 10:31:42 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
Now why is that, do you suppose??

Probably because you are delusional and hallucinated a cease fire somewhere, because you are a worthless Putinista toad.

11 posted on 07/27/2014 10:34:17 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Rashputin

I do find it amazing that these ID’s scream “PROPAGANDA!” at anything that might paint Kiev in a bad light, but don’t do the same for stuff from Tymchuk’s Facebook, Censor.Net, Ukrainform, EuroMaidanPr, etc, adn.

Their purpose is quite clear to all watching. they aren’t even remotely interested in knowing what is going on, just in pimping a line, and silencing any opposition to it. They act just the OFA and Occupy trolls did.

They are just hypocrites, to be ignored and made fun of.


12 posted on 07/27/2014 10:35:42 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Place this in front of page you want translated:
http://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=uk&tl=en&u=

Like this for TCN: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=uk&u=http://tsn.ua/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dwww.tsn.%2Bua%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3D3BT%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26channel%3Dfflb

Ukraine News Sources with English translations:
1. Kiev post- http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/
2. http://www.president.gov.ua/en/
3. https://news.pn/en/
4. Information Resistance- http://sprotyv.info/en/news
5. Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty- http://www.rferl.org/
6. http://www.bbc.co.uk/search/news/?q=ukraine
7. http://burkonews.info/ato-update-operational-situation-east-ukraine-july-27-1200-utc/

On Facebook you can follow:
Dmitry Tymchuk
Roman Burko
Also: world clock is helpful
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converted.html?iso=20140429T1505&p1=367&p2=411

LIVE TV is interesting:
http://www.ustream.tv/search?q=ukraine


13 posted on 07/27/2014 10:37:30 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: Rashputin
Is this the same chemical plant the BBC reported on Kiev Coup Troops using Grads to shell early in June?

It doesn't appear your videos are from the BBC. One of them is titled "Nazis" and something in Russian. Nor is there any BBC commentary on them. Furthermore, it says "Slavyansk." Slavyansk, which the Ukrainians already control.

The Separatists have done amazingly little damage to the infrastructure and factories in the areas they control.

That's because RT and the rest of Russkie media claim that everything they break the Ukranians did it.

14 posted on 07/27/2014 10:38:39 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“Probably because you are delusional and hallucinated a cease fire somewhere, because you are a worthless Putinista toad.”

Dude....
The first rue of doing acid is to not look in the mirror.

Any comments about the actual ARTICLE?


15 posted on 07/27/2014 10:39:39 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
Their purpose is quite clear to all watching.

We call Russian media propaganda because it lies and is under the control of Moscow, which has been confirmed. You cannot find a lie told by Tymchuck, or anybody else.

16 posted on 07/27/2014 10:40:24 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

You cannot find a lie told by Tymchuck, or anybody else.”

OMG!! That’s just HILARIOUS!!!
How about the casualty figures, and the MH17 ceasefire, for starters.

The guy screaming “Propaganda” is also pimping Kiev propaganda. You are now dismissed as just a simple hypocrite.


17 posted on 07/27/2014 10:44:19 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
How about the casualty figures, and the MH17 ceasefire, for starters.

You are free to demonstrate deception or even inaccuracy in any of those cases, if you can, and then we will go from there.

You are now dismissed as just a simple hypocrite.

You are dismissed as soon as we ask you to prove your claims.

18 posted on 07/27/2014 10:48:18 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
Oh, and you ignored my question.

Is this the same chemical plant BBC reported on Kiev Coup Troops shelling early in June?

Yeah, it is as a matter of fact and those "posts with integrity" sure aren't double checked against anything other than more Facebook pictures of cats and rear ends if you don't know it.

21 posted on 07/27/2014 11:02:04 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin
Is this the same chemical plant BBC reported on Kiev Coup Troops shelling early in June?

I already answered it, you goober.

22 posted on 07/27/2014 11:03:02 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Thanks, but basically just ignore Rashputin & TCRLAF. Did you see U.S. released satellite images confirming the facts of shelling the territory of Ukraine "Grad", located on the territory of Russia. This was announced by U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Jeffrey Payette. "Visualization: evidence that Russian troops across the border shelled positions of the Ukrainian army, and that the separatists used in artillery attacks, giving them Russian," - wrote Mr. Payette
23 posted on 07/27/2014 11:07:27 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
Thanks, but basically just ignore Rashputin & TCRLAF. Did you see U.S. released satellite images confirming the facts of shelling the territory of Ukraine "Grad",

Yes, I saw it earlier on Interpreter Magazine. Thought about posting it but I was quite busy at the time. As for the two stooges (Caww is elsewhere, so they lack the third), I SHOULD ignore these wretches. I waste a great deal of my time responding to them when I should be working.

24 posted on 07/27/2014 11:11:16 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Disarmed, under a dawn to dusk curfew, and in areas where there is high security, I'm for shoving all the Christian Charity down their throats they can handle. Especially teaching them the Truth about Christ as opposed to letting them continue to wallow in the lies their Profit passed down to them.

In cases other than that, I agree with their own Profit, they're all possessed by seven evil Jinn who can at any moment drive them mad and turn them to evil.

The more you let them wonder around among civilized, peaceful, human beings, the more likely it is the tide turns and some idiot in power goes with the, "nits make Lice" approach then starts the senseless slaughter of them all.

They've already started their cyclical murder of one another by the thousands to be followed by the murder of tens of thouands, and ever upward until they're destroy everything and get back to the 7th century. They do it every time "jihad" against those in the House of War stalls and doesn't pan out the way they expected.

But you and yours say avoiding generalizations by letting the mad dogs roam free is the proper approach? No, it's 100% pure stupidity, not a rational approach to dealing with a clear and present danger.

Senseless slaughter of all Muz Lames must be your preferred outcome since you think "generalizations" that would avoid the possibility of that happening are bad.

Go back to your Furturama coloring book and all natural eggplant smoothie.

25 posted on 07/27/2014 11:19:44 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

And the ones from June?


26 posted on 07/27/2014 11:20:34 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin
But you and yours say avoiding generalizations by letting the mad dogs roam free is the proper approach? No, it's 100% pure stupidity

And yet, the "mad dogs" in Kurdistan let us roam free and thank us every chance they get, and yet, you would have us believe that every Muslim group needs to be forcibly converted or at least imprisoned, and this opinion you are inserting into your generally crazed assessment of Crimea. You've outed yourself as a bigger nutcase than I thought.

27 posted on 07/27/2014 11:34:55 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Hey.. impossible to reason with irratonality! Just ignore Rashputin & Tcraf (everyone else does!)


28 posted on 07/27/2014 1:22:00 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

I’m curious, where id you get those images from?


29 posted on 07/27/2014 1:25:34 PM PDT by McGruff (We can't even secure our border never mind Ukraine's.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

BTW: Terrorists do not undermine the chemical company “Styrene”, because in reality it belongs to Putin

“I want to see how the terrorists will blow Besa chemical companies styrene in Gorlivka. It’s no secret that Firtash is only a lining business and the beneficial owner Stirol is Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, “- wrote analyst Taras Berezovets.

“So all this hysteria of erosion himpredpriyaty nothing more than brazen blackmail” - said Berezovets.


30 posted on 07/27/2014 1:59:17 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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