Skip to comments.Pentagon Plan Would Help Ukraine Target Rebel Missiles
Posted on 07/27/2014 11:46:17 AM PDT by elhombrelibre
The Pentagon and American intelligence agencies are developing plans that would enable the Obama administration to provide specific locations of surface-to-air missiles controlled by Russian-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine so the Ukrainian government could target them for destruction, American officials said.
But the proposal has not yet been debated in the White House, a senior administration official said. It is unclear whether President Obama, who has already approved limited intelligence sharing with Ukraine, will agree to give more precise information about potential military targets, a step that would involve the United States more deeply in the conflict.
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How is this in the public realm if true?
Public discussion of committing an act of war?
Doesn’t this fall under the definition of treason?
Ukraine is a free and independent government despite Putin’s best efforts to destroy it. Therefore, it can negotiate with the US to acquire support to put down the Putin proxies.
The part that made me chuckle was when thy mentioned “Mr Obama’s emerging National Security Doctrine”.
He sure doesn’t worry about that when he imports little chilruns and MS13 characters from south of the border.
But, it is the NYT. To be expected.
Yes, that’s correct. Between Obama and Putin we’ll be lucky to have a decent world, but helping either one of them is not a position a former Reaganite would agree to, I think.
That's all these two provinces want is their freedom and the Kiev regime is doing everything they can't to stop them.
How many other borders are you willing to allow Putin to undermine? Are you in favor of reestablishing the former Soviet Empire?
So, rather than play along with the propaganda, the Pentagon is saying that they'll help Kiev target the systems Kiev swears the Separatists don't have and can't operate if they do have them.
My guess is Kiev will insist US bombing is the only solution.
Worst case, . . .
How many more provinces will you let Putin take?
You don’t know what you’re talking about and you don’t know how the US Military works.
You really don’t understand. I am not for either. I am for the truth and so I am very skeptical to believe propaganda from either side.
You are helping Obama even though you may not want to be. Tell me, when has Obama ever tried to help anyone except those who vote for him or are useful to his agenda?
The fight is for freedom here in this country. If we can’t keep ours, you know Ukraine isn’t going to have any.
——But the proposal has not yet been debated in the White House-——
I wonder what president Jarrett would say...
Obama certainty doesn’t want to poke the bear.. (putin) since his dossier on Obama must be quite the read...
Which means the Ukrainians will be left to twist in the wind...
Too bad they aren’t muzzies...obama would bent over backwards to help them...
I don’t believe Obama is helping Ukraine. I believe he’s harming them.
The reason I posted it was because it shows that the US military and our intelligence all agree that the evidence of Putin’s support is real. I have no more belief that Obama will help Ukraine than I believe he’ll fix the economy, health care, or the border problems.
We agree on that.
All these years I thought it was absence.
Jeepers, quit your whining. The rule, as stated before by the Mods, is roughly four hours.
If Nobama is supplying weapons and funding, you can be sure it’s to the wrong side.
Estonia will be next on the list if you Kerry-hawks aren't careful.
Barry is shafting Ukraine and has a patsy selected by the same money that's behind him.
Who benefits if Ukraine nationalizes and then sells off the heavy industry in Ukraine most of which is owned directly or indirectly by Russians and Russian shareholders?
Putin got what he wanted and now looks like he's just keeping his approval numbers up within Russia using carefully worded BS. He ain't no choirboy but he can read a balance sheet and knows industry in Ukraine needs a lot of investment to keep going.
If Russian owners loose, well, he'll make it easy for them to invest in new, modern, replacements within the current borders of Russia the Koreans will be more than happy to build.
He's also, contrary to popular opinion, well aware of what his military limitations are.
People trying to characterize a shrewd leader with juvinile propaganda straight out of a bad 1950s movie is just plain stupid. No one will have much, if anything, to wonder about when Putin has the upper hand someplace and he won't move anywhere until he does.
So you intentionally re-posted a thread. I hadn't head that. Is that true?
No -- the Worst case is when I take the time to read your nonsense.
Them Ruskys are tricky little buggers.
Putin won’t do anything because of me. His desire to reconstitute the Russian Empire has nothing to do with anything I see, say, or write. I’m not surprised you’d blame me for Putin’s goals as you’re incapable of blaming your God Putin.
You know...for a guy who supposedly spent time in Iraq you sure have a weird obsession with Russia. You’d think someone with your ‘experience’ would be posting on ISIS threads rather than rabidly posting on Ukraine ones. Makes me question your whole story...
Could be because we don’t have a President that cares about stopping ISIS, but wants to poke his nose in Ukraine.
You mean because he sent them MREs, socks and released several strongly worded statements, it's clear that it's all a grand Muslim/neo-con/IMF/Rothschild/Bilderberg/Soros/sodomite EU/Monsanto Nazi conspiracy against Putin - the fierce defender of Christianity and free market, the vanquisher of banksters, islamists and homos ?
The whole “Obama supports Ukraine therefore Putin must be right” crap spread by Putinists here is totally out of touch with reality. In fact a fragile Ukrainian state is pushed around by a KGB punk and “western leaders” don't give a damn to the point that French don't even bother to cancel their little shitty warship deal.
By your logic, then, I guess you must have served in Ukraine or with the FSB. You’re always on here arguing that Ukraine should be subjugated by Putin’s proxies. In fact, you’re always showing poor cognitive skills and logic nearly every time you post. Just as someone could have been in Iraq and be opposed to Putin, one can also oppose Putin and Obama. Apparently, you think being consistently in support of freedom is a questionable trait.
You’re just saying something that isn’t true. Putin is sending lethal items to his proxies in an undeclared war on his neighbor. Obama has made some speeches, some very limited sanctions, and sent some EOD robots. To say that you think Obama is poking his nose into Ukraine ignores the fact that he’s offered little aid that will make a difference. And it plays the moral equivalence card that the Left always plays.
The only thing you’re consistent about is your love for Obama? Do you have a big picture poster of him on your wall at home? Are you in love with him?