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Ukraine: Ukrainian Army Defeated The Huge Armored Column Militants Near Torrez
http://hvylya.org/news/exclusive/ukrainskaya-armiya-razbila-ogromnuyu-kolonnu-bronetehniki-boevikov-vozle-toreza.html ^ | 27.07.14, 20:51

Posted on 07/27/2014 12:47:13 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com

Ukrainian army defeated the huge armored column militants near Torrez According to Igor Burkut "Rovenky held column of regular troops - Concerted crews of combat vehicles, artillery calculations. From air attack column covered two ZSU-23-2 trucks. A classic militia would ride on conventional trucks, pickups, buses.

Their weapons would be unsuited - from hunting rifles and museum to the PCA captured AK-74 and a variety of machine guns and mortars. Immediately visible - the same type weapons, the soldiers prepared. So they transferred from abroad, and then recently - has not had time to pull. "


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: putinsbuttboys; randsconcerntrolls; russia; ukraine

1 posted on 07/27/2014 12:47:13 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

That translation really misses the boat.


2 posted on 07/27/2014 12:51:11 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Considering both aides are full of thugs, I don’t care who wins this one.


3 posted on 07/27/2014 12:51:32 PM PDT by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Torez, Ukraine was named for French Communist leader Maurice Thorez. In the post-Soviet era, most cities and towns with Communist names went back to their original names, but for some reason, Torez did not.


4 posted on 07/27/2014 12:57:29 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
From air attack column covered two ZSU-23-2 trucks.

I think this means Uk. attack plans succeeded in destroying two rebel ZSU-23's…?

I agree with the post above --I don't care who "wins" this as long as no US troops or treasure are expended in it.

None of our bee's wax.

5 posted on 07/27/2014 1:01:53 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Right through the Ukrainian-declared “Cease-fire” Zone.

So, it was a lie after all, right?


6 posted on 07/27/2014 1:13:03 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: gaijin

I do care who wins... Putin’s profile is remarkable like Hitler’s. We can can not appease. He needs to be stopped.

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not
speak out— Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not
speak out— Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—
and there was no one left to speak for me.
by Rev. Martin Niemöller


7 posted on 07/27/2014 1:15:01 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
Is there anyone who can unravel that narrative or make sense of the translation?
Who defeated or stopped whom?

Calling both sides "Ukrainian" is not the smartest or clearest war to report military events.

Anyone have any links to sort of kind of more clearly reports from the front?

8 posted on 07/27/2014 1:21:47 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: DirtyPigpen

It is empire that Russia not become an empire again.


9 posted on 07/27/2014 1:23:38 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: gaijin

Russia is striving to return to empire to take over Europe, and you don’t care?

Reagan defeated the evil empire and gave us a breather with Russia, but history didn’t end.


10 posted on 07/27/2014 1:27:02 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12
It is empire that Russia not become an empire again.

The word of course, is "important".

11 posted on 07/27/2014 1:28:48 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: DirtyPigpen
Considering both aides are full of thugs, I don’t care who wins this one.

Well I do.

I will support and root for the thug who has not started taking chunks of neighboring countries' territory, and who is armed to the teeth with high tech weapons.
In other words, the underdog.

When Ukraine starts invading neighboring countries, I might reconsider.

12 posted on 07/27/2014 1:31:30 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: DirtyPigpen

“Considering both aides are full of thugs, I don’t care who wins this one.”

Why are we reprinting Ukrainian propaganda at Free Republic, anyway? You’re right, this is the Spanish Civil War in the East, and we should stay the hell out of it. I’ve seen way too much rah-rah here, taking Ukraine at it’s word on some tossed-baby caliber propaganda.


13 posted on 07/27/2014 1:42:50 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: DirtyPigpen

Ukraine has been rebuilding its army by calling up citizens. It’s not a fast process given how the billions the previous president and his crony stole. Some units are being equipped by donations.

Using the term thug indiscriminately ignores the reality of a people that just want to be left alone. Putler needs to be seriously hurt. Economic action that severely complicates his relationship with the of the oligarchs is in order.


14 posted on 07/27/2014 1:44:59 PM PDT by meatloaf
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To: ansel12
Russia is striving to return to empire to take over Europe, and you don’t care?

I'm an anti-Russian but you're getting suckered on this. Obama is going to seize on this as a way to distract from the numerous domestic emergencies that he has engineered.

He's going to rally people around the flag and pretend he's a patriot. He'll drive our euro allies even further away from us and get a bunch of our guys killed.

At the least he'll drive energy prices way, way up.

15 posted on 07/27/2014 1:47:40 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
Meanwhile, in nearby Dyakove, the 79th Airborne from Mykolayiv is cut off. Surrounded on 3 sides with it's back to Russia. Shelled constantly for nearly 2 weeks. "Mice in a trap." "No food." "Equipment destroyed."

So distressed are the wives of the paratroopers, they blockaded the Mykolayiv -Odessa Highway in protest.

I really think it time for a major assault in that direction, ala Patton to Bastogne. Just sayin'...

16 posted on 07/27/2014 2:01:56 PM PDT by donozark (The voices inside my head may not be real, but they have some good ideas!)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Please to be speaking in the English?

`Outpost’ (2007) A crack group of mercenaries in eastern Europe battle invincible Nazi zombies who are able to travel through time and space thanks to an SS time machine.
Finally, leader Ray Stevenson borrows dozens of bull, tiger and white sharks from `Sharknado’ and the Nazis fade away, calling it a draw but vowing revenge and a 4th Reich.


17 posted on 07/27/2014 2:02:58 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
How far from the Kiev Coup Mechanized Brigade that's surrounded is this?

Maybe Kiev has learned the hard way to make sure captured and/or abandoned equipment has to be destroyed instead of left parked in front of the Waffle House.

18 posted on 07/27/2014 2:03:53 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: gaijin

No, you aren’t anti-Russian, you are pro-Russian and being snookered by our generations old enemy and are being absorbed by the left.

I’m not being suckered, I am watching the very same thing that I have been watching for over 50 years, I’m even starting to have 60s flashbacks from you pro-Russia (Soviet) activists.


19 posted on 07/27/2014 2:13:52 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: gaijin
Obama is going to seize on this as a way to distract from the numerous domestic emergencies that he has engineered...

Obama doesn't care about Ukraine. He has done little except to send food rations.

This is about the people of Ukraine who have been defending themselves against a Putin initiated cold war of sorts, long before Obama became president and who are now defending themselves in a hot war against Putin all without the help from anybody.

Those of us who have been on the Ukraine and Georgia vs. Russia threads for the past 10 or 15 years understand that this has nothing to do with Obama.

20 posted on 07/27/2014 2:19:05 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: donozark
Meanwhile, in nearby Dyakove, the 79th Airborne from Mykolayiv is cut off. Surrounded on 3 sides with it's back to Russia. Shelled constantly for nearly 2 weeks. "Mice in a trap." "No food." "Equipment destroyed." So distressed are the wives of the paratroopers, they blockaded the Mykolayiv -Odessa Highway in protest. I really think it time for a major assault in that direction, ala Patton to Bastogne. Just sayin'...

Torez is just to the NW of Dyakove. Help is nearby.

21 posted on 07/27/2014 2:25:09 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: tumblindice

Those flying sharks are dangerous. It takes helicopters propane can bombs to kill them, or hedge trimmers.


22 posted on 07/27/2014 2:28:58 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: meatloaf
Using the term thug indiscriminately ignores the reality of a people that just want to be left alone.

Another reality that ought not to be ignored is that Russian-speaking Ukrainians in the eastern regions opposed the Obama-backed Junta that seized power in Kiev.

23 posted on 07/27/2014 2:36:00 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
OMG.

Like Hitler?

People here in the US better start working on and speaking out about the rape of the US Constitution without paying attention to the deliberately distracting regurgitation of propaganda BS about YouCrane.

Let the Socialists, Trade Unionists, and Jews, in Ukraine speak out for themselves without our sticking our nose in it.

If YouCrane hadn't had an illegal coup none of this would be happening, their gas would cost them far less then they're paying now, they'd still have credit to pay for energy rather than paying in advance, they'd have fifteen billion less debt, and the IMF wouldn't be dictating what austerity measures they have to take.

All just if they had waited until scheduled elections.

The theives in power now knew damn well they couldn't win an election or they'd have waited until the already scheduled election to toss the other theives out. Not because the elections would be rigged, either, that's more BS. They knew if there were free and fair elections in the East and Southeast their sweethearts couldn't win. Period, that's what the whole coup was about. One band of thugs ousting another band of thugs they didn't have a chance against if they stayed within the law and the people who got shafted the most not being willing to lie down and take it.

If the people in the East and Southeast believed Putin would rush to their aid they were just deluding themselves. Putin rusing in with troops is the best of all possible outcomes in the eyes of the people in charge in Kiev. It solves almost all their problems, gets them out of the IMF austerity requirements, gains them billions of sympathy bucks, and puts foreign troops in Kiev to keep them in power. What, you think none of them looked at how Kosovo played out and why?

Anyone who bothered to actually read both agreements knows for a fact the people of Ukraine fare far worse harnessed to the IMF/EU Honey Dipper cart than they would have under the deal Russia offered them to just stay with the Status Quo.

But it's all Putin's fault. What, tired of saying, "Bush's fault"?

24 posted on 07/27/2014 2:36:25 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Spoke with friends in Ukraine today. These are all lies. Untrained boys with no boots no food no real training are being thrown against Spetsnaz controlled Chechin mercenaries and are being killed wholesale. The damned government in Kiev whines about no money while the Verkovna Rada makes huge money every month

Poroshenko will deserve a hanging for what he is let go on in Donetz


25 posted on 07/27/2014 2:38:17 PM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Jimmy Valentine
Through friends of mine with family still in Ukraine I hear the same but without independent verification how do you decide it's not more rumors?

Western Ukraine is neck deep in rumors from what I hear.

26 posted on 07/27/2014 3:12:58 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Da! Is really one mix up talking, you betcha my life!


27 posted on 07/27/2014 3:43:35 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

I notice they’re using sand bags as reactive armor.


28 posted on 07/27/2014 3:44:23 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: Drew68

Using the term thug indiscriminately ignores the reality of a people that just want to be left alone.
.................
Another reality that ought not to be ignored is that Russian-speaking Ukrainians in the eastern regions opposed the Obama-backed Junta that seized power in Kiev.
************
How do we know this without a free and fair election in those territories?


29 posted on 07/27/2014 3:52:54 PM PDT by Socon-Econ
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To: Socon-Econ

How do we know this without a free and fair election in those territories?....So what? We haven’t had one of those for almost seven years?


30 posted on 07/27/2014 4:04:07 PM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Drew68

Not anywhere near the extent that the Russian disinformation program spread in the media. The election put the lie to that as have the Russian supported operations against those very same people.


31 posted on 07/27/2014 4:27:01 PM PDT by meatloaf
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To: publius911

Thugs gotta thug I guess.
I feel for the people, though.


32 posted on 07/27/2014 5:04:23 PM PDT by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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To: meatloaf

I feel and pray for the average Ukrainian Joe. The government is the problem.


33 posted on 07/27/2014 5:07:17 PM PDT by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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To: Rashputin

My people are raising money privately to supply food and water uniforms and boots to the troops. Much criticism of the US and Europe for not intervening. Very sad situation


34 posted on 07/28/2014 3:11:12 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Drew68

“Junta that seized power in Kiev.

When the Prime Minister, who fleeced billions from the government, is facing criminal charges and flees the country that’s not a coup or seizing power. When parliament elects a replacement that’s not a junta.

The only deviation was by the PM. He went against his agreement with parliament to sign the EU accord. Perhaps you think politicians should be above the law?


35 posted on 07/28/2014 3:29:30 AM PDT by Justa
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To: donozark

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2707344/Fighting-breaks-near-MH17-crash-site-EU-security-advisers-sent-help-Ukraine-bring-law-order-rebel-area-call-visit-dangerous.html


36 posted on 07/28/2014 4:17:12 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: publius911

http://liveuamap.com/?ll=48.900124530528394;38.445852050781234&zoom=7


37 posted on 07/28/2014 4:17:44 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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