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Ukraine: The Ato Forces Liberated Debaltseve And Savur-Moguila High Point
Burko News ^ | July 28, 2014 | Oxana

Posted on 07/28/2014 9:22:07 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com

According to the ATO press center, the ATO forces liberated Debaltseve and Savur-Moguila high point (from there the militants were firing on Ukrainian army positions all the time).

Ukrainian armed forces entered Shakhtarsk, Torez and Luhutine. Combats for definite liberation of Pervomaisk and Snizhne are in progress.

The Ukrainian army and National Guard units are in the suburbs of Horlivka, they are preparing the liberation operation.


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1 posted on 07/28/2014 9:22:07 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Debaltseve: Done. Next stop: Alchevsk - the last big city on the way to Luhansk on the M-04. Also should make it easier to take Krasnyi Luch.

Kiev is lucky the Russian “rebel” forces are collapsing so quickly - they’re doing a great job given the circumstances. With Russia stepping up operations, it’s going to be a big benefit to have the “rebels” pinned down into little enclaves.

There’s lots of talk right now about the possibility that the US may grant Ukraine major non-Nato ally status within a few days. That’d mean actionable real-time intelligence sharing and fewer restrictions / delays on weapons purchases. We’ll see if the reports are right. The Russian media seems really ticked off about that possibility.


2 posted on 07/28/2014 9:49:22 AM PDT by OldGuard1
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To: OldGuard1

Any clue where Savur-Moguila is? I can’t seem to find it on a map.


3 posted on 07/28/2014 9:53:04 AM PDT by OldGuard1
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Conflicting info..

LifeNews says the height was attacked, but did not fall:

Ukrainian army did not take the height of the Saur-Tomb, the battle continues
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Flifenews.ru%2Fnews%2F137434&edit-text=&act=url

Also, several of the towns Kiev claimed they had taken yesterday are still under Rebel control, namely Shakhtersk and at least part of Debaltsevo.

There a bunch of tweets popping up about two aircraft shot down over Torez, as well.


4 posted on 07/28/2014 9:53:20 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: OldGuard1

Saur-tomb, in the hills near the Marinovka checkpoint.

23,000 Soviet Soldiers died trying to take these heights in WW2, hence the huge memorial. There is also an underground bunker system there.


5 posted on 07/28/2014 9:54:58 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: OldGuard1

Russian rebel forces are collapsing so quickly because they don’t want to fight and lose their lives just to keep their commanders, Strelkov, Bezler, Borodai, Sapper et al from their anticipated visit to the Hague.


6 posted on 07/28/2014 10:26:28 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: OldGuard1

You are ABSOLUTELY correct on all points!
Keep praying for Ukraine.


7 posted on 07/28/2014 10:33:48 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: Uncle Chip

In addition, many members of the “rebels” were forced to join at gunpoint. Some refused & were SHOT IMMEDIATELY!


8 posted on 07/28/2014 10:35:19 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Can you post a map of the the area showing the cease fire zone relative to the fighting.


9 posted on 07/28/2014 10:42:10 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

I will try to locate. Right now I am sick with grief I need to step away from the computer: looking at photos of the dead young Russian military.

BACKGROUND INFO of 45 Regiment AIRBORNE FORCES of the Russian Federation-the elite special forces of Russia.

Many parents, relatives and friends of soldiers of this regiment think that Polk is now at the field output, performs educational tasks. But it’s not.

In fact, at this time the regiment was actively involved in the fighting in the eastern region of Ukraine on the banditry, that contributes to the spread of terrorism in the East of Ukraine.

The regiment has lost many trained their fighters.

The Ministry of defense, the General staff of the armed forces of the Russian Federation to conceal the involvement of Russian military personnel, including those mentioned above regiments, to the latest developments in the Donbass region.

Therefore, the body of troops have been secretly removed from the territory of Ukraine and without notifying the relatives has been “stored” in the already overcrowded mortuaries towns of Rostov region.

If you take out the body fallen, they at best are buried in mass graves, and at worst simply left as they have fallen, like stray dogs.

Family members, relatives and friends, of the commandos are in ignorance living a peaceful life and not even suspecting that their son, brother, husband, friend, is dead.

BELOW IS NOTICE:

Russians! Mothers of Russian soldiers!
Now is the time for insight-with your tacit consent people perish in the Donbas region of Ukraine. In endorsing the war and sending in the thick of their loved ones, do not have hope for an early return.

Do not let the possibility of leadership of the General staff of the armed forces of the Russian Federation to Ukraine to send them to certain death.

Now call their sons, brothers and husbands in order to verify that they are alive, well and truly are Russian! If not, take all necessary measures for the return of your loved ones back home, while they are still alive!
Remember, this call may be the last chance to make sure that close to you people still alive!

Residents Of Donbass


10 posted on 07/28/2014 11:14:21 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: Uncle Chip
"Russian rebel forces . . ."

Born in Ukraine, lived in Ukraine all their lives, new talking points say to call them "Russian Rebels"?

11 posted on 07/28/2014 11:33:27 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin

— armed by Russians, trained by Russians, commanded by Russians, shot by Russians if they refuse to fight for them.


12 posted on 07/28/2014 11:48:59 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Apparently, Russian border guards shoot Terrorist/Separatists if they try to leave Ukraine.


13 posted on 07/28/2014 12:07:45 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: OldGuard1

6 minutes ago: Today avdeevka, which is 6 km north of Donetsk, in fact came completely under the control of ATO.

Remnants of the militants as reported by eyewitnesses “DNI” flees the Café.

AVDÌÏVKA-WHOLE UKRAINE!!!


14 posted on 07/28/2014 12:09:34 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: Uncle Chip; All
Strelkov appeared personally at a press conference today in Donetsk. Here are his updates: Black Mercenaries - This isn't the first time this subject has come up. Some say they are African Mercs, others say US Acadami/Blackwater/XE personnel. Still others say they are forced conscripted from the West African community around Lviv. From many different reports, it seems Kiev is throwing everything they have into these last offensives. As I have said before, IMO, time is running out for Kiev, and the unrest in the west is growing quickly.
15 posted on 07/28/2014 12:14:08 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

Update:

The “Black mercenaries” were found around Dubrovka.


16 posted on 07/28/2014 12:16:26 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf; All

iCorpus video of Strelkov’s presser today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQjgoiYt62g

(Not the best, most slick presser I’ve ever seen)


17 posted on 07/28/2014 12:24:28 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf; UMCRevMom@aol.com

The U.N. said in its report that rebel groups continue to “abduct, detain, torture and execute people kept as hostages in order to intimidate” the population in the east. It said rule of law had collapsed in the rebel-held areas and that 812 people had been abducted in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions since mid-April.

http://www.aol.com/article/2014/07/28/spokesman-mh17-punctured-by-shrapnel/20937758/


18 posted on 07/28/2014 12:35:30 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Yes, I connect with people in Donetsk. People are begging Ukraine military to come quickly.


19 posted on 07/28/2014 12:37:56 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: Rashputin

The U.N. said in its report that rebel groups continue to “abduct, detain, torture and execute people kept as hostages in order to intimidate” the population in the east. It said rule of law had collapsed in the rebel-held areas and that 812 people had been abducted in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions since mid-April.

http://www.aol.com/article/2014/07/28/spokesman-mh17-punctured-by-shrapnel/20937758/


20 posted on 07/28/2014 12:38:12 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
Just now: Peonte Bishop DONETSK ·RAILWAY Bridge between #Авдеевкa and 71 blown up. Car bridge intact.
21 posted on 07/28/2014 12:40:00 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: tcrlaf

Yesterday, reported that he had Strlkov LEFT!!! Escaped???


22 posted on 07/28/2014 12:42:39 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
I connect with people in Donetsk.

You should tell them the Ukrainian rockets kill more civilians that separatist.

23 posted on 07/28/2014 12:45:53 PM PDT by McGruff (If you repeat a lie enough times the uniformed will accept it as the truth.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

As I have pointed out, that was only the 10th or eleventh time that Kiev propaganda media has said that Strelkov was “fleeing”.

Striaght up propaganda, designed to make the rebel forces waiver. Problem is, after you cry wolf a number of time, nobody believes it.


24 posted on 07/28/2014 12:47:15 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

30 minutes ago report:
Sincerely happy for nearest neighbors, want to hear: Donetsk-cleaned of terrorist garbage.

However, at Ukraine press conference reported:
“The militants are trying to regain control of lost territories. It is reported by the press center of the ATO.

“Militants are taking measures to reassert control over the lost positions in the city of Lugansk. Noted for the convoys of military equipment in the direction of the village of Georgievka, Rovenky anthracite.”-said the press service.

Also at the ATO noted that militants continue firing on positions of ATO forces.

As militants fired rockets from BM-21 “Grad” outpost near the village of Georgievka, outpost in the village of Chelyuskinets. No loss. The mortar had been fired at the checkpoint of Stukalova Beam.”

This is the most complete info I have at present.


25 posted on 07/28/2014 12:49:11 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: McGruff

That’s only because the Russian rebels are hiding behind apartments, and women and children, and seeking safety in the the debris fields of MH17 while their leaders like Strelkov runs away to Moscow.


26 posted on 07/28/2014 12:50:24 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: tcrlaf

Thank You for the statement from Moscow — what would we do without you???


27 posted on 07/28/2014 12:53:13 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: McGruff

No. You truly are unaware. There is an “underground network” of trusted individuals continually sending information (locations of military, convoys, Grads etc, often with phone snapshots) to Ukraine military.

these folks are not uninformed!


28 posted on 07/28/2014 12:53:43 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: tcrlaf

You mentioned that his earlier pressor was not up to par, I merely referenced because info posted yesterday stated he left leaving ‘boatswain’ in charge.


29 posted on 07/28/2014 12:56:17 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: tcrlaf

BTW Kiev is reporting that MH17 was brought down by a missile.

Are they right or wrong with that statement???

What is the Kremlin saying about that???


30 posted on 07/28/2014 12:56:32 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Example: “News of Donbass 1 min Yard building son Yanukovych “Druzhba” in Donetsk DND uses to install the anti-aircraft guns, masked under a tree and bushes.”


31 posted on 07/28/2014 1:00:31 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

“There is an “underground network” of trusted individuals continually sending information”

Not to mention, real-time US satellite info...


32 posted on 07/28/2014 1:01:22 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

Several Tweets reporting VERY heavy shelling of Northern Donetsk civilian areas, that began exactly at midnight.
Tweeters include BBC Radio’s Patrick Lancaster

Tweets saying Avdyivka, a Donetsk northern suburb, is being attacked.


33 posted on 07/28/2014 2:48:20 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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