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Dozens die as fighting intensifies in Gaza; children killed at refugee camp
CNN ^ | July 29, 2014 | Ralph Ellis, Sara Sidner, Karl Penhaul and Ian Lee,

Posted on 07/29/2014 12:33:42 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse

Despite calls for a new cease-fire, fighting intensified in Gaza on Monday and Tuesday morning, with Palestinians saying more than two dozen people died as rockets or mortars struck a refugee camp, a hospital and the center of Gaza City.

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TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gaza; hamassympathizers; islamistterrorism
Hello? IDF ...if you should happen to spot an animated bald man , gesticulating wildly and illuminated by TV crew lighting ; please consider directing a little HellFire his way .
1 posted on 07/29/2014 12:33:42 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse

Hamas is like a mass shooter with his child in a baby carrier on his chest getting shot by a security guard after shooting up the place and killing several people. Then the headlines in the new york times reads “security guard murders baby in cold blood.”


2 posted on 07/29/2014 12:42:48 AM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

The refugee camp and the hospital were rockets fired by Hamas that fell way short of where they were aimed. This has been a continuing theme, there’ve been a significant number of short rounds. One of them on the 13th took out main power lines that served about 10 percent of the population.

Tonight, they’re claiming Israeli tank guns have put holes in two of the three fuel tanks for their only power station (which supplies 20 percent of their needs). Whether that was really tank shells or another of their randomly aimed rockets hasn’t been determined. The fuel in those tanks was paid for by an emergency loan from Qatar. They get the rest of their power from Israel, to whom they owe about 80 million bucks in past due bills. The Israelis have been in court trying to get permission to shut it off until they get paid.


3 posted on 07/29/2014 12:52:38 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Tomorrow it will be a baby milk factory, a nursery school, and an old-age home.


4 posted on 07/29/2014 12:58:02 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: ArmstedFragg

are you in Israel ?


5 posted on 07/29/2014 1:04:03 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: GraceG

I think Israel should just completely destroy all of Gaza , make it uninhabitable and leave it that way . No more ‘reconstruction’ , no more water , no electricity . Zero .
Put Egypt in charge of any blockade . Let Egypt dance with Turkey.
The IAF should declare a 1/2 wide area of the entire Gaza border a tunnel free area and start regularly dropping ground penetrating munitions there . Build their own cheap ones , suitable for soft earth . Save the good ones for Iran .


6 posted on 07/29/2014 1:09:58 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse

Another day, another blood libel.


7 posted on 07/29/2014 1:14:48 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Nope, just following their local media.


8 posted on 07/29/2014 2:05:46 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Illegals come to the U.S. and rape and murder U.S. citizens and hide behind Obama, where is CNN reporting on that?


9 posted on 07/29/2014 2:21:26 AM PDT by just me (GOD BLESS AMERICA Amen)
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To: LeoWindhorse
“ All right ... all right ... but apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order ... what have the Romans ever done for us?”

- Editorial comment from the University of Rome school newspaper, year 3, BC.

“ All right ... all right ... but apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order ... what have the Israelis ever done for us?”

-Editorial comment from the PLO newspaper, year 2014, AD.

10 posted on 07/29/2014 2:43:11 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Why is this even called “news?”

Those people living there have freely ALLOWED and ENCOURAGED Hamas to operate freely within their communities and now they dare to to blame everyone and everything except themselves for what they are facing today?

This is not news...it’s propaganda.


11 posted on 07/29/2014 3:07:29 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: blackdog

Life of Brian? Monty Python...I think...


12 posted on 07/29/2014 3:47:37 AM PDT by BCW (Amazon Books: "Babylon's Covert War" - the Iraq conflict explained in detail - by JH White)
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To: ArmstedFragg

“The Israelis have been in court trying to get permission to shut it off until they get paid.”

Good God.. they’re at war.. Israel should cut them off NOW!!


14 posted on 07/29/2014 4:17:05 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If it doesn't include border security, it isn't "reform." It's called "amnesty.")
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To: LeoWindhorse

Meanwhile Hamas continued to attempt mass murder by firing hundreds of rockets into Israel. The possible body count escalated to 102,570. However, the actual body count remained very low because of excellent defense.

Premeditated murder on this grand scale necessitates complete annihilation of the criminals.


15 posted on 07/29/2014 4:21:53 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: LeoWindhorse
Calling life under the threat of death "inconceivable" for Israel, Netanyahu said the military will not end its incursion into Gaza until it has destroyed tunnels Hamas is using to attack civilians outside Gaza.

I have a question about the tunnels:

Can't they be attacked from the Israeli side, or are they too hard to find at that end? Just curious, because it seems like it would be a good opportunity to blow MOAB-like devices through the tunnels and clean out the cockroaches that are trapped inside.

Keep the tunnels open.

Send through a massive blast of burning gasoline.

Wait for them to fill up with pali-cockroaches again.

Repeat.

16 posted on 07/29/2014 4:25:39 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: LeoWindhorse

CNN is American Pravda, the Enquirer has more worthiness in it’s facts than they do.

Considering what Israeli’s have been having to deal with for decades (if not centuries), I think wiping out every hospital, school and mosque in Gaza would be a good start.


17 posted on 07/29/2014 4:41:27 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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To: LeoWindhorse

No matter what the cost Israel, wipe Hamas off the face of the earth. We all see what complete barbarians they are. We will all be that much better off with them gone. I realize that cost may be very high in terms of Palestinian deaths, but future generations of Israelis and Palestinians will thank you for removing this threat to you both.


18 posted on 07/29/2014 5:03:44 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: LeoWindhorse
I notice when these casualty numbers are reported, they never mention whether they are “civilians” or Hamas terrorists.

Once again, the Lame Stream Media is hiding the truth: The Palestinian deaths are overwhelmingly terrorists, yet the LSM would have us believe these deaths are innocent victims.

Hogwash!

19 posted on 07/29/2014 5:35:20 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: samtheman
Carbon monoxide gas - colorless, orderless, deadly.

I would think seismic testing, such as oil drillers do, would reveal many of the tunnels & bunkers.

I envisioning a tunnel system much like the VC used in South Vietnam. Many miles of interconnected tunnels, levels, bunkers, etc., probably booby trapped.

The tunnels are used as storage areas for rockets & other weapons, therefore the Israelis must search & destroy them from the Gaza side, but I imagine they would attack any discovered tunnel from either side.

Are there any old tunnel rats out here on FR?

I'll be they can give some good insight on what the Israelis face underground.

20 posted on 07/29/2014 5:52:12 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Mister Da

Bunker buster.


21 posted on 07/29/2014 5:55:20 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: longfellow
You mean hundreds of bunker busters, don't you?

Way too expensive a way of killing rats in sewers. Too many buildings above the tunnels. The tunnels need to be cleared of terrorists & weapons, then systematically destroyed, even if you use the BBs.

If Israel could gas the tunnels, then do extensive recon, I'll bet they come up with a wealth of intelligence; enough to destroy Hamas & much of the regional terrorist networks.

Naturally, Israel wont use a WMD, even on tunnel scum, so the Israeli tunnel rats are gonna have a tough time.

22 posted on 07/29/2014 6:30:14 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: blackdog

23 posted on 07/29/2014 7:37:05 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: Mister Da
The best way to deal with subterranian engineered structures is with low yield nuclear weapons:

Absolute SAFEST way to destroy underground structures with almost ZERO surface radiation (plus you create a nice, deep, nuclear-engineered ditch.

Just look at the photos from Nevada. If they were all in a line, it would be a perfect, man made barrier:

The Isreaelis have all that they need: 1) CAUSE, 2) Nuclear weapons, 3) A buffer to limit civilian casualties, 4) An urgent need to collapse the tunnels and create at PERMANENT no-mans land. 5) Finally, it shows the world that Israel has the resolve and dedication to use every tool in its arsenal, and sends a message to the rest of the Mud-slime world that they are NOT afraid to use nuclear weapons (albiet, in a scientific, nuclear-engineering sense):


24 posted on 07/29/2014 7:50:37 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: Mister Da

“Are there any old tunnel rats out here on FR?”

Yes.
I saw pictures of Gaza tunnels. They were huge...large enough for big trucks could drive through them.... made of concrete, much like vehicular tunnels in the U.S.
Much grander than anything I saw in RVN

In what was known as I Corps, which was the northern most and mountainous section of South Viet Nam, most of the tunnels were primative and very small, 3 to 4 feet wide and 5, maybe 6 feet high, at most. Ceiling and walls were lined with wood. Nearly all of the tunnels were zig-zag’d every 10 or 20 feet. There were always escape hatches here and there in the roof. We would look for those hatches before entering a tunnel and pop a couple of smoke grenades down to see there the smoke showed itself. Crawling on your belly, in the dark, no helmet/no flack jacket, with just a .45 looking for bad guys creates a helluva rush.


25 posted on 07/29/2014 8:45:47 AM PDT by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: Mister Da

I know they couldn’t, but I am sure we have something for this. If the scum set off a nuke the media would say it was Israel anyway.


26 posted on 07/29/2014 9:08:44 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: samtheman

The Palis would turn them into nursery schools in a heartbeat.


27 posted on 07/29/2014 2:41:08 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: DH

“Those people living there have freely ALLOWED and ENCOURAGED Hamas to operate freely within their communities and now they dare to to blame everyone and everything except themselves for what they are facing today?”

An excellent observation, DH. Palestinian brutes will allow the murder of their children in order to advance the Nazi/Hamas cause. It should also be noted that our Orwellian pig media here in the US is aiding the Hamas animals.


28 posted on 07/29/2014 3:07:04 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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