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Ebola outbreak: Is it time to test experimental vaccines?
CNN Health ^ | 7/29/2014 | By Meera Senthilingam

Posted on 07/29/2014 5:46:41 AM PDT by EBH

Ebola virus disease is sweeping across West Africa in the largest outbreak of the virus to date. Mortality rates are currently at 60% in a disease where up to 90% of infected people can die. But despite this lethality there remain no licensed treatments or vaccines available, nearly 40 years after the disease was first discovered.

In March, Ebola was reported for the first time in Guinea, West Africa, in districts that border neighboring Liberia and Sierra Leone. This proximity meant that unlike previous outbreaks in other parts of Africa, the usually remote Ebola virus had the opportunity to cross borders. With residents migrating back and forth, it did just that. Four months later the outbreak has reached unprecedented scales, with 1,093 people infected and 660 deaths attributed to the virus.

"This is clearly an outbreak across international borders and it has not been handled properly," explains David Heymann, professor of infectious disease epidemiology at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine (LSHTM), who was on-site at the first human Ebola outbreak in 1976.

He says the 24 known outbreaks of Ebola to date have shown that it should be easily controlled. "It's not rocket science to control these outbreaks but instead basic epidemiology: infection control, hygiene practices, contact-tracing and safe burial practices," says Heymann of the virus, which is transmitted through contact with bodily fluids. "Ebola is its own worst enemy, it's too lethal and cannot sustain its own spread."

But whilst it should be easily contained, this time something has gone wrong

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: border; ebola; outbreak
Lots of Ebola chatter on the AM radio news this morning. It seemed odd to hear even the local news carrying information on this outbreak. Previously the only time I have even known about such 'outbreaks' has been through the ping list here on FR.
1 posted on 07/29/2014 5:46:41 AM PDT by EBH
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To: EBH

Latest victim traveled all across Africa by plane. Those who traveled with him were informed but allowed to go on their way. It has a 21 day infection timeline. I need to go watch 12 Monkeys.


2 posted on 07/29/2014 5:49:51 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: EBH

Our local paper is advertising for guinea pigs to test a new vaccine for ebola.

What do they know that we don’t know?...


3 posted on 07/29/2014 5:53:06 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: Mercat

Or “The Stand”.


4 posted on 07/29/2014 5:53:57 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: EBH
The Cloward & Pivon crowd are hoping that many OTM’s coming over the border will be infected.

Algore and Bill Gates will have their dreams come true!

5 posted on 07/29/2014 5:54:21 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: PATRIOT1876

CDC Downplays Ebola’s Threat to the United States
http://health.usnews.com/health-news/articles/2014/07/28/cdc-downplays-ebolas-threat-to-the-united-states

Concern was raised over the weekend when it was reported that an Ebola-infected man from Liberia flew to Lagos, the capital of Nigeria, only to die soon after his arrival. Health officials are trying to track down any contacts the man might have had during his journey.

For your entertainment: http://vimeo.com/26450446


6 posted on 07/29/2014 5:58:26 AM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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7 posted on 07/29/2014 6:00:29 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Mercat

Wife and kids of one of the American doctors working the outbreak just returned to the States a few days ago from visiting and working with him. Once home in Fort Worth, they found out the doctor has ebola now. It may already be in the US.


8 posted on 07/29/2014 6:03:49 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Mercat

Twelve Monkeys is a movie that you have to watch....rewind....and watch a second time. Too many things involved in the plot...red herrings I’d call them....and by the end you really start to ask yourself about the premise of a disease beyond control.

I would strongly encourage you to go and read Daniel DeFoe’s 1722 novel A Journal of the Plague Year (downloadable on Amazon with their e-reader and free). It will walk you through the 1665/66 period of London and the effects of the plague. I should say...it is a fictional account but DeFoe really leads you through the various issues that confronted society, and how people just laid up boundaries and refuse people passage through their community by the mid-point.


9 posted on 07/29/2014 6:05:59 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: EBH

They need to put the affected victims on a colloidal silver drip. Viruses and bacteria don’t like it one bit.


10 posted on 07/29/2014 6:13:59 AM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: EBH; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; ...
Previously the only time I have even known about such 'outbreaks' has been through the ping list here on FR.

You rang???

Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

11 posted on 07/29/2014 6:14:11 AM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
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To: null and void

I am guessing no chance Gaza is in his travel plans?


12 posted on 07/29/2014 6:21:50 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (GM is dead and Al Queada is alive.)
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To: pepsionice

Two other books about infectious disease - Barbara Tuchman’s A Distant Mirror about the 14th century. She’s something of a lib but very well written. And The Ghost Map about the 1850 cholera epidemic in London. Written by Steven Johnson. My SIL’s brother is the pathologist for the biggest hospital system in my metro area and this is one of his favorite books. He’s a bit odd but so am I.


13 posted on 07/29/2014 6:23:02 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: Mercat

OUTBREAK!


14 posted on 07/29/2014 6:26:08 AM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: EBH; All
Question for people who have knowledge about this topic:

Could experimental vaccines morph Ebola into something more highly contagious and deadly?

15 posted on 07/29/2014 6:32:16 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania

Most of the ones I’ve read about no. The scary part is that vaccine or not, Ebola is likely to do that all on its own.


16 posted on 07/29/2014 6:39:46 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: FourtySeven
“That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human f#&$ery.” ― Stephen King, The Stand
17 posted on 07/29/2014 6:41:37 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: EQAndyBuzz

What? Are you kidding? With his compromised immune system he won’t even visit the Tex-Mex border!


18 posted on 07/29/2014 6:42:21 AM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
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To: null and void

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO2-YxWkRxk

The only way to be sure.


19 posted on 07/29/2014 6:44:14 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: EBH

No, it’s time to lock down the borders and quarantine anyone traveling into the country from a part of the world that’s infected.


20 posted on 07/29/2014 6:45:40 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

If you read the article, that is the normal protocol. Then it burns itself out. For whatever reason that isn’t/didn’t happen this time.


21 posted on 07/29/2014 7:22:45 AM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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To: EBH

“For whatever reason”...

I fully believe that Obama et al have intentionally initiated a biological attack on the United States - especially “red” areas.


22 posted on 07/29/2014 7:24:08 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
*I am guessing no chance Gaza is in his travel plans?*

Next stop, dinner with Kim Dung and the basketball player in North Korea!

Rodman can be “Sick as he wants to be”

23 posted on 07/29/2014 8:09:20 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: EBH


24 posted on 07/29/2014 8:24:51 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: pepsionice

I used to have an old book I bought back around 1962. THE PLAGUE AND THE FIRE. A history of those plague years. A terrible time to be alive.


25 posted on 07/29/2014 8:29:59 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: Slyfox

[ They need to put the affected victims on a colloidal silver drip. Viruses and bacteria don’t like it one bit. ]

But that could turn them blue.....


26 posted on 07/29/2014 8:53:26 AM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: grania

[ Could experimental vaccines morph Ebola into something more highly contagious and deadly? ]

Making Ebola (less) deadly would actually cause it to become more widespread, that or increasing the incubation time so it has a chance to spread further, the problem with a highly contagious highly deadly virus is that it will burn itself out quickly.


27 posted on 07/29/2014 8:54:59 AM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: GraceG
But that could turn them blue.....

Only if they chewed on a chunk of silver. Microscopically-suspended particles don't turn anyone blue.

Viruses and bacteria get the heck outta Dodge when confronted with it.

28 posted on 07/29/2014 11:09:56 AM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: EBH

As of a few years ago, basic epidemiology and microbiology were no longer part of Nursing education up through BSN level. Part of the reason MRSA infections are widespread is lack of understanding of how diseases are transmitted.


29 posted on 07/29/2014 12:07:39 PM PDT by STYRO (War sucks. Living in slavery sucks even worse.)
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...

Ping...


30 posted on 07/29/2014 4:32:39 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: FourtySeven

The Stand’s flu was so effective because it shifted as AIDS does AND it was so highly contagious.

When you hear EBOLA is in your town, hunker down and do not go outside for a couple of weeks.

It burns itself out quite fast.

Of course, people do not use even the most basic hygiene anymore—idiots sneezing all over crowded areas.

If it breaks out in a city between Boston and DC...those folks are screwed.


31 posted on 07/29/2014 4:42:10 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: GraceG; Kartographer
Making Ebola (less) deadly would actually cause it to become more widespread, that or increasing the incubation time so it has a chance to spread further, the problem with a highly contagious highly deadly virus is that it will burn itself out quickly.

People these days are so selfish, that they are not going to cooperate with quarantines.

They have *rights* you know, and that means the *right* to do what they want, when they want, everyone else be damned.

What's probably the only thing that's going to work is the healthy people voluntarily quarantining themselves until the outbreak is over.

Unless it gets too bad in the cities and then there could be forced quarantine and martial law.

The medical system is going to be overwhelmed and health care workers are going to be in short supply and high demand as they succumb.

It's not a pretty picture.

That's how I see it anyway.

32 posted on 07/29/2014 4:44:37 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

[ What’s probably the only thing that’s going to work is the healthy people voluntarily quarantining themselves until the outbreak is over. ]

I got enough food and stuff to do so.

Feel sorry for the EBT slaves who don’t they will be spreading the “love” at the gubermint bread lines...


33 posted on 07/29/2014 5:05:14 PM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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