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Immigration Hawks Prepare for Showdown on House Border Bill (McCain Amnesty Aide writes House Bill)
National Review Online ^

Posted on 07/29/2014 7:38:00 AM PDT by Windy City Conservative

The latest critique circulating among opponents of the package is that Rebecca Tallent, a former staffer to Senator John McCain (R. Ariz.) who currently works for House Speaker John Boehner (R., Ohio), has played a significant role in drafting the Granger proposal.

“[Tallent] is writing the House plan for Kay Granger,” a well-placed congressional source. “She more than almost anyone has her fingerprints on President Obama’s immigration plans and is very close with the amnesty community, with the White House, with Democratic offices.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; flake; globalist; mccain; northamericanunion; nwo
Shady National Review has scrubbed this post from their website. Drudge still has a link to it, but comments are disabled. Rebecca Tallent, big on amnesty has apparently been completely involved in drafting legislation to address the current border situation. Looks like the Boehner fix is in. Shame on NRO for their deceit.
1 posted on 07/29/2014 7:38:00 AM PDT by Windy City Conservative
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To: Windy City Conservative

If they do this, there is not ONE REPUBLICAN for whom I will vote in November. I’m out and done with it.


2 posted on 07/29/2014 7:39:13 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Windy City Conservative; Liz; AuntB; Tennessee Nana

Who is Rebecca Tallent? Her *talents* have been well documented, on this forum. Here’s a snippet of her *bio*....

Tallent is a veteran of immigration fights and a big believer in reform, including a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants. One of her early endeavors in negotiating legislation was 10 years ago, when she worked as a staffer for former Rep. Jim Kolbe, R-Ariz. Tallent helped draft a major immigration bill sponsored by Kolbe, McCain, and former Rep. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., now a senator and member of the “Gang of Eight” who created the comprehensive immigration bill that passed the Senate.....


3 posted on 07/29/2014 7:43:31 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: Windy City Conservative
If Rebecca Tallent is involved, it's a lock that we're being sold out.

An open letter to the GOP Members of Congress

As a Representative or Senator in Congress, you took this Oath:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God."


"Support and defend the Constitution" it says. Did you see that? That document, in turn, requires, per Art.4, S.4, that

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence."


An invasion is what we are suffering. That invasion has accelerated with each "comprehensive immigration reform" previously enacted. Instead of another disastrous reform that yet again increases the incentives for millions more to try their luck crossing the southern border, a Member of Congress who took his Oath and the Constitution seriously would be pressing for what the American people have repeatedly said they want - not what Senators Schumer and McCain, Mark Zuckerberg, Mexico, some border state farmers and homebuilders or the Chamber of Commerce rent-seekers want. That is:
  1. secure the border in a transparently verifiable way;
  2. end the anchor-baby interpretation of the 14th Amendment;
  3. enforce eVerify without exception and with severe penalties;
  4. end chain migration - entry per individual qualifications, not family ties;
  5. deportation upon contact with any law enforcement agency - federal, state or local
  6. no government benefits beyond critical emergency care (and that ought to be billed back to the home government); and
  7. NO "Path to Citizenship" - EVER - for anyone who has entered the US illegally.
Any measure that does not accomplish these things is unacceptable. It is de facto amnesty. And it will inevitably, ineluctably encourage millions and millions more illegal entries.

If the GOP is complicit in granting amnesty - and any action that permits those who entered the US illegally to benefit from that illegal act is amnesty - the GOP will cease to exist. It will not survive through the 2016 elections. The people will shun the over-tanned, glad-handing, backslapping quislings and look elsewhere for leaders who actually have the spine for the fight. Make no mistake - to me and to many, many others, amnesty is the GOP's Rubicon. Cross it at your electoral peril.

4 posted on 07/29/2014 7:44:39 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: Windy City Conservative

The fix has been in. This *staffer*/amnesty lover of Bonehead’s is proof.

Kay Granger is in on the fix, too. Shame on her. Her TX constituents are hopefully giving her he## over this.


5 posted on 07/29/2014 7:46:28 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: Jane Long; Liz; AuntB; La Lydia; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; ...

Jason Chaffetz is speaking LIVE in the House hearing

He said he went to the border and there were illegal aliens from 60 countries there..


6 posted on 07/29/2014 7:48:23 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Jane Long

Why would NRO have this story, post it, and then quickly take it down? Someone in GOP leadership must have raised the issue, and NRO is all too compliant to GOP Leadership, as they are practically the media arm of the GOP. I’m forwarded the link to Breitbart and VDare. I think it is important to get this story out. It was legitimate enough for NRO to post it; there may be something to it.


7 posted on 07/29/2014 7:49:27 AM PDT by Windy City Conservative
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To: Windy City Conservative
Why is it in vogue to be anti-American? How can it be that the well-off despise the very culture that gave them their wealth and freedom?
8 posted on 07/29/2014 7:50:55 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Jane Long
Golly---I'm really shocked McCain's "friend "Ana Navaro is not a party to this. Oh well, Ana is prolly busy meeting w/ her La Raza pals thinking up ways to overthrow the US government.

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ADVOCATING THE OVERTHROW OF THE US GOVERNMENT FIESTA La Raza President and CEO Janet Murguia, at La Raza's annual hate-America conference in LA, said it sickened her to hear Americans chanting "USA USA." She accused Murietta, Ca protesters of having "cloaked their hatred in patriotism" by shouting "'USA! USA!' again and again." "It made me angry," she said. "In fact, I was outraged."

Murguia demanded amnesty and said the road to the White House for Republicans goes through the Latino community and La Raza. She also said Republicans who want to rescind the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program will not get Hispanic votes.

She repeatedly excoriated protesters. "What we saw in Murrieta is not patriotism. It is ugly, divisive, and yet another low in a debate I thought could not get much lower." Murguia did not say comment on "Viva La Raza!" chants from pro-amnesty advocates.

Murguia told attendees it was "reprehensible" for Republicans to be "concerned" about disease and crime the "little kids" may be bringing across the border.

Cong Gutierrez (Dim-Ill) also spoke at La Raza's "Hate America Fiesta."

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Mmmmm......the tax-sucking latinos are getting very mouthy...now that they're living in a place w/ running water and flush toilets...and riding the US gravy train 24/7.

One La Razan paid agitator carried a sign proclaiming, "You are on stolen land".....reinforcing that we are being invaded preparatory to the armed takeover of the SW.

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The stupid La Razans fail to realize---America is not some Third World hellhole where people crap in a hole in the ground.

This is a thriving Republic where people have the right to free speech, freedoms given is b/c we have a two-party system.

La Raza's drumming up hatred for Republicans is tantamount to advocating the overthrow of the US govt.....and she's doing it on the taxpayers' dime.

No question blood-thirsty La Raza is using our tax dollars to aid and abet the criminal contagion-invasion and the SW takeover.

INCONVENIENT FACTOIDS:

<><> La Raza----a violent organization planning to overthrow the US govt----would pocket $100 million tax dollars per year ad infinitum from the Senate amnesty bill.

<><> La Raza also received suck-up Democrat earmarks from US tax coffers.

<><> La Raza received US tax monies to engage in (cough) "mortgage counseling" facilitated by La Raza's comrade in arms---the Congressional Hispanic Caucus.

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Boobamba sucks up to blood-thirsty La Razans. Americans have the most racist and divisive President in US history. No other president has appointed individuals apparently colluding with foreign countries try to undermine the safety and security of US citizens.

Obummer appointed Celia Munoz to the "Domestic Policy Council".....Munoz was a onetime lobbyist for the blood-thirsty La Raza. "La Raza" proclaims itself a racist and anti-American organization. It's core goal is to overwhelm the American Southwest with illegals ---pressure groups who will vote in their mouthpiece----and cause the region to break away from the US and become Mexican territory.

9 posted on 07/29/2014 7:52:40 AM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Speaker “Blank Check” Boehner has convinced most voters in the Public and US House of Representatives that NOTHING CAN BE DONE to punish B. Hussein Obama for violating the US Constitution unless he is removed from Office by the US Senate.

IOW, Speaker Boehner, by doing nothing, Boehner violates his unique Constitutional Duty to “Control the Purse” or Impeach Obama, and passes the buck to a Democrat-controlled US Senate that will never Remove Obama from Office.

Obama knows that as long as Boehner stays in as Speaker, then Obama has permission do whatever he wants to do, with no fear of punishment.

Boehner as Speaker is ESSENTIAL to permitting Obama to violate the US Constitution on a near daily basis.

Boehner is “the best Speaker of the House that the Democrat Party has ever had.”

Removal from Office can only come from the US Senate, and ONLY if the US House Impeaches BEFORE the US Senate even considers whether or not to bring an Impeachment to the Floor of the US Senate.

BTW, “stupid” people are those people who are incapable of learning, and Speaker Boehner and all those who refuse to use the Checks and Balances found in the US Constitution are TRULY STUPID, especially the Republican Member supporters of Boehner as Speaker in the US House of Representatives.

Force Boehner to resign as Speaker, and THEN Impeach Obama with New House Speaker Louis Gomert, Jim Jordan or Trey Gowdy.

Do nothing, and US Voters may find no EFFECTIVE reason to vote for a do nothing Republican slate of Candidates in November, 2014.

BTW, BTW, just what is the difference between a do-nothing Republican Politician who always caves-in to his Democrat betters, and an Obama Democrat Politician?


10 posted on 07/29/2014 7:58:34 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Windy City Conservative

The game continues unabated.

Every two years they stir the amnesty pot and every two years amnesty is “defeated”. Meanwhile de-facto amnesty is granted by virtue of doing nothing and the border remains wide open.


11 posted on 07/29/2014 7:59:36 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Graewoulf

If they screw this up, they will lose the House in 2014, and deservedly so.


12 posted on 07/29/2014 8:01:10 AM PDT by Windy City Conservative
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To: Windy City Conservative
From related article

Spends $100,000,000.
2) Asserts acts that are already illegal are now illegal.
3) Makes it a federal crime to tell someone where a DHS, HHS or Border Patrol bus carrying illegal aliens is spotted, coming from or headed.
4) Makes it a federal crime to prohibit a DHS, HHS or Border Patrol bus from moving from point A to point B.
5) Does absolutely nothing to secure the border and stop the invasion in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California. These southern borders will remain wide open and the bill doesn’t address this.
6) Creates a communication channel between HHS and states about newly recommended facilities for housing illegal aliens.
7) Opens up U.S. facilities in Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador for the purpose of processing illegal aliens on foreign soil.
8) Calls for 15,000 “refugees” from Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador to be processed on foreign soil and transported into the U.S.

13 posted on 07/29/2014 8:06:43 AM PDT by opentalk
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http://www.flake.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/368efc27-4bd9-489b-aea4-7ffb4ce3ca26/mdm14517.pdf

PDF of Act


14 posted on 07/29/2014 8:09:05 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: Windy City Conservative; All

Yup.

During the US House August Vacay, fill the ears with “ reasoned thoughts” of y’alls US House Reps. with what is as plain to us as the rump of an Antelope!


15 posted on 07/29/2014 8:09:15 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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16 posted on 07/29/2014 8:12:02 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Paine in the Neck

Amen, brother.


17 posted on 07/29/2014 8:19:59 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost ("Just look at the flowers, Lizzie. Just look at the flowers.")
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To: Tennessee Nana
Jason Chaffetz told a Congressional hearing he found illegal aliens from 60 countries at the border.

Mmmmm....that reminds me of the Boston bombers and the tax-sucking Tsarnaev family.

INMMIGRANTS CASH IN---FORCE TAXPAYERS TO FINANCE THEIR DIRTY DEEDS-- Democrat Gov Deval Patrick ordered Massachsetts govt agencies to conceal the welfare info from taxpayers.

But sources who saw 500 pages of welfare documents (requested by a state legislator) told News Center 5 that the entire Tsarnaev family, including (1) the two bombing suspects' parents, (2) the two suspects themselves, (3) their sisters, (4) the widow of the suspect killed, and, (5) their child -- received "every conceivable public benefit available out there." (Excerpt) Read more at wcvb.com ...

This is why they're lining up at the border.

18 posted on 07/29/2014 8:28:11 AM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: Liz

Chaffetz said some great stuff about sending the illegal aliens back

I was writing my comment and forgot most of it though

:)


19 posted on 07/29/2014 8:32:17 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Liz

this new guy Leon Rodriguez of the USCIS is not pleased with what he is being asked

He is pushing AMNESTY and letting the illegal aliens stay..

Theres been lots of questions on fraudulent documents and what should happen to the illegal aliens caught with them and Chaffetz mentioned it too


20 posted on 07/29/2014 8:35:33 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

I read an article somewhere...Breitbart? that said women were showing fake birth certificates for their kids & border patrol just whisked them through.
This is madness!!


21 posted on 07/29/2014 8:38:55 AM PDT by rainee (Her)
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To: Paine in the Neck

bump


22 posted on 07/29/2014 8:40:14 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (The next DNC convention will be spoken in Spanish; Press 1 for English)
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To: Tennessee Nana
At the Congressional hearing, there's been lots of questions WRT fraudulent
documents and what should happen to the illegal aliens caught with them.....

CRIME ONE of many Crossing the border without permission is a federal crime.

CRIME TWO of many Giving US officials false information. "Cheat sheets"
have been found at the border, indicating illegals were coached to give false
information to US got officials.

An illegal alien "cheat sheet" found on illegal immigrants swarming the southern
border into the United States. The cheat sheets have been found on numerous
illegal aliens. Photo/TheBlaze.

======================================================

Any lawyer repping illegals (1) should be referred to the state Bar Association
for future disbarment, and, (2) have his/her license to practice law challenged.

Every lawyer is an officer of the court and should know, that the US justice system
does not dispense justice to litigants who come to court w/ "unclean hands"---
a legal term meaning the litigant has committed crimes.

23 posted on 07/29/2014 8:53:26 AM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: Liz

Sheila Jackson Lee just asked about the applications..

She read off from her notes there are 10 MILLION petitions from illegal aliens with 50 different kinds of petitions..

50 different reasons for illegal aliens to stay here ???


24 posted on 07/29/2014 8:54:21 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Paine in the Neck

Great points.


25 posted on 07/29/2014 8:55:03 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Liz

Spencer Bachus just told Rodriguez hes heard him say a lot of things but he hasn’t heard him mention the rule of law...

He read off that there are longer waits now for REAL immigrants because the resources money and personal have been moved to working on DACA instead of immigration since 2012..

Nice eh ???


26 posted on 07/29/2014 8:58:34 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Liz

Spencer Bachus said that 90 congressmen wrote a letter begging the CIS to please process the real immigrants instead of the illegal aliens..

Refugees in the Congo have had to wait months more and still are not here..

Funny that Rodriguez said earlier his agency didn’t get involved with the illegal aliens..


27 posted on 07/29/2014 9:01:50 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Gaffer

BTTT!

PS: Not until the UniParty chaos is brought to our street, at our door, will we truly fight back.

Are we really an American remnant? We need to find out. Soon.

(Of course this means we would have to leave our pacifiers (our keyboards) and DO something. But, can we leave our suckies long enough?)


28 posted on 07/29/2014 9:09:01 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Gaffer

If they do this, there is not ONE REPUBLICAN for whom I will vote in November. I’m out and done with it.

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We shouldn’t take out our wrath on this issue alone on every Republican. There are many issues where Republicans stand strong other than this one. Isn’t a Republican who gives us 80% of what we want better than a Democrat who would give us 80% of what we do not want? Sen. sell-out McCain does not fall into this category, but many others do.


29 posted on 07/29/2014 9:15:34 AM PDT by Socon-Econ
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To: Liz

Luis Gutierrez is such a (censored)


30 posted on 07/29/2014 9:17:58 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Socon-Econ

And I would counter your argument that so, so many of these 80% agreement Republicans follow lock-step to Boehner and McConnell in their unceasing appeasement and capitulation to Democrats.

These people, at least in the Senate are masters of show-voting. Vote for cloture on a bill to bring it to the floor before it can be stopped and then vote against it in a hopeless plurality vote and then trot home to say “I voted against it.”

Boehner also engineers his version of Cloture votes. He gives dispensation to selected representatives who may undergo voter wrath on a particular vote - AS LONG AS HE HAS OTHER VOTES to win his plan.

Despicable, devious, duplicitous scheming back-stabbing machinations against conservatism. Fie on them. They don’t have my vote - EVER, until they come to Jesus.


31 posted on 07/29/2014 9:22:06 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: opentalk

Just went through the PDF (quick read) and these folks are delusional.

Part of the damn thing sets quotas for importing refugees.

Parts of it are utterly unenforceable such as “the parent has submitted to a mandatory biometric criminal history check;” because most of them have already been released to whomever and are now GONE.

It appears that this is a setup for long term direct importation of illegal aliens.

‘‘(ii) MONITORING.—If an unaccompanied alien child described in clause (i) is between 15 and 18 years of age and the Secretary of Health and Human Services determines that such child is not a danger to self, a danger to the community, or a risk of flight, the child shall ‘‘(I) enroll in the alternative to detention program of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement; and ‘‘(II) continuously wear an electronic ankle monitor while his or her immigration case is pending.”

They are not showing up now to the tune of > 80% so just how long will that “electronic ankle monitor” last?

“(d) FAILURE TO APPEAR.—The Director of the Executive Office for Immigration Review shall track the number of unaccompanied alien children who fail to appear at a removal hearing (>80%) that they were required to attend; and make the information described in paragraph available to the public on a quarterly basis. “

They already know these numbers.

It is over 80%.

This entire “Act” is a scam to MANDATE importing illegal aliens directly from the south.

They will start with 15,000.

Next year? The year after that, how many?

The “Act” only states the amount for 2014 to 2015.


32 posted on 07/29/2014 9:26:07 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: TLI

Louie Gohmert, Lamar Smith, Steve King and the others are throwing everything at Rodriguez of the USCIS..

they have asked him why the CIS don’t ask the illegal aliens if they are in a gang and now Louie is grilling Rodriguez on the drug smugglers ..

Louie said that there are illegal alien gang members who have smuggled drugs into the US and then turned around and claimed they are fleeing gang violence..

Oh noez..really ???

Rodriguez is not a happy camper...

Lots of talk about DACA and fraud..


33 posted on 07/29/2014 9:34:55 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: TLI; Paine in the Neck; Tennessee Nana; Jane Long; sickoflibs; TADSLOS
Just went through PITN's PDF (quick read) link .... these folks are delusional. Part of the damn thing sets quotas for importing refugees. Parts of it are utterly unenforceable---this is a setup for long term direct importation of illegal aliens.

Mmmmm.....no surprise. Sounds like the enactment of Obama's "dream" of a permanent Democrat majority.

Looks like Valerie's been burning the midnight oil to get it all in one place.

Now if only the voters would cooperate (/snix).

34 posted on 07/29/2014 9:39:19 AM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: Gaffer

........... .
Despicable, devious, duplicitous scheming back-stabbing machinations against conservatism. Fie on them. They don’t have my vote - EVER, until they come to Jesus.
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I too hope they “come to Jesus.” But if that is your voting criteria, you won’t be able to vote for hardly anyone.


35 posted on 07/29/2014 9:44:25 AM PDT by Socon-Econ
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To: Socon-Econ

I think there is at least one. I am hopeful, regardless.

Remember, God’s angels relented to Lott and required only a very few just people.


36 posted on 07/29/2014 9:46:14 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Jane Long
Kay Granger is in on the fix, too.

The fact that Tallent is writing the bill for Granger is a sure sign that Granger is acting as McCain's catspaw in the House. McCain is Tallent's patrón. This is the Senate Gang of Eight pushing their camel's nose under the House's tent.

37 posted on 07/29/2014 10:04:11 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: Liz; AuntB; La Lydia; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

The 3 hour long Imigration Services Oversight hearing by the House Judicary Committee has just finished...

It was a doozy..

Our Conservative lovers of America including Jason Chaffetz, Lamar Smith, Steve King, Louie Gohmert were fresh, rested, read up on all your comments from here in FR and had lots of zingers ..

Lots of info was exposed..

try and watch the video on CSPAN..

:)


38 posted on 07/29/2014 10:14:52 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana
I was able to watch the C-span hearing rebroadcast. Cong/men Jason Chaffetz, Louis Gohmert and Randy Forbes were standout patriots, protecting Americans from the invading hordes at the border.

The lock-stepping Gonzalez gets grade A for Evasion and for loyally following orders from the Commandant in the WH.

Did you notice? when Democrats questioned him he knew everything and responded in great detail. But to Republicans he whined about being new to the jobs---and parroted "gotta get back to you on that."

Cong Gohmert stopped the show with his probing judicial-like queries---the former judge's prodigious knowledge of the law was awesome---as well as his ability to nail Gonzalez to the wall. WRT drug cartel guiding the hordes over the birder---"Would you call them criminals?," he asked Gonzales. Making the point that if the hordes were coming here to escape drug cartels, why is it they pay the violent breed to get over the border?

Gonzales made a show of his legal bgrnd---but he paled agaimst Goehmert's expertise.

Gonzales, as a former prosecutor and officer of the court, should know that the US justice system is not amenable to dispensing justice to litigants w/ "unclean hands"---a legal term meaning those who have committed crimes. His license to practice law should be pulled.

Sad to see Jason Chaffetz's resignation, knowing we would get nowhere with the lock-stepping Gonsalez----prostrate in obeisance to Obama---his lips pressed firmly to the WH behind.

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As for Cong Guttierez lamebrain appearance--- this imbecile had to have used voter fraud to get into office---no one in their right mind would vote for the Spanglish-speaking moron.

We need to find out (1) how many identities he's using, (2) how many govt checks he, his family, and his staff are cashing, and, (3) Guttierez's membership in violent organizations advocating the overthrow of the US govt.

39 posted on 07/30/2014 5:29:46 AM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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