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Crumbling Freedom: (Colorado) Cake Artist Sent to 'Reeducation'
CBN ^ | July 29, 2014 | Mark Martin

Posted on 07/29/2014 8:14:09 AM PDT by xzins

LAKEWOOD, Colo. -- Imagine being ordered to go against your religious beliefs, and if you refuse, you could be arrested, fined, or sued.

That happened to the Christian owner of a Colorado bakery who now must make wedding cakes for gay couples.

However, the owner is standing his ground and his action is inspiring people around the world.

Discriminating Accusation

The sign on the door reads "Celebrating 20 Years of Great Cakes!" For two decades, Masterpiece Cakeshop has created art in the form of baked goods that keeps customers coming back.

From cookies and cupcakes to signature cakes, Jack Phillips and his daughter Lisa have transformed their bakery into a studio. Phillips said it's all inspired and motivated by his faith in Jesus Christ.

"It's the most important thing that I think about throughout the day. When I wake up, when I go to work, I want to know that what I'm doing is pleasing to Him, that I honor Him and His Word because that's the most important thing," Phillips said.

But Phillips' Christian faith landed him in trouble with the law. His crime: adhering to his biblical belief that marriage is between one man and one woman.

In 2012, a homosexual couple sued the baker after he declined to make a cake to celebrate their marriage. An administrative law judge ruled against him, and the Colorado Civil Rights Commission agreed.

The commission stated Phillips' refusal went against the state's public accommodation law. It requires businesses to serve customers regardless of their sexual orientation.

In a public statement, one member of the Civil Rights Commission said, "I can believe anything I want, but if I'm going to do business here, I'd ought to not discriminate against people."

"I didn't discriminate against anybody," Phillips countered. "Like Nicolle (his attorney) said, I've chosen not to make cakes for same-sex weddings. I told David and Charlie when they came in that I would sell them cookies and brownies and birthday cakes and shower cakes. I just don't do the same-sex wedding cake. So I did not discriminate against them, just that event I've chosen not to participate in."

His attorney Nicolle Martin said the Commission violated his First Amendment rights. She's taken the case to the Colorado Court of Appeals.

Conform to Comply

The Civil Rights Commission's order requires Phillips and his staff to make cakes for same-sex celebrations if asked.

He must also re-educate his staff about Colorado's Anti-Discrimination Act. Under that law, artists must endorse all views.

The order also requires him to put in place new policies to comply with the Commission's order.

In addition, he will submit quarterly "compliance" reports to the government for two years.

According to Alliance Defending Freedom, the reports must include the number of customers declined a wedding cake or any other product. They must also include why it was declined "so to ensure he has fully eliminated his religious beliefs from his business."

"The government has chosen which message it favors in this case; I think the state has made it very clear," Martin said.

"Jack's First Amendment rights, Jack's freedom to express himself or more importantly, not express himself, must bow to the complainants' message," she said. "And all I can say is what that looks like to me is something very frightening, and that's nothing more than diversity through conformity, and that's not diversity at all," she added.

First Amendment Disappearing?

Phillips' case is one of a handful in which complainants sued private businesses for refusing to accommodate gay couples getting married.

It also helped lead to controversial proposals in several states allowing businesses to decline service based on the religious beliefs of owners.

"This case is not about and it has never been about the young men that came in here almost two years ago asking Jack to design and create their cake," Martin said. "This case has always been about the message that that cake expresses, what that cake communicates."

"It's surprising," Phillips said. "This is not what they taught us in civics class... they could do this to you. They do this in other countries, not here."

"So Jack stands on the First Amendment. In this case, we're going to learn whether the First Amendment has a future in America," Martin said.

In a country founded on freedom of religion and speech, that's a future important to all Americans


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1 posted on 07/29/2014 8:14:09 AM PDT by xzins
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According to Alliance Defending Freedom, the reports must include the number of customers declined a wedding cake or any other product. They must also include why it was declined "so to ensure he has fully eliminated his religious beliefs from his business."
2 posted on 07/29/2014 8:14:32 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

Disgusting....


3 posted on 07/29/2014 8:15:43 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau; P-Marlowe

It is hard to believe that this will pass constitutional muster when it finally gets into the federal court system.

But requiring the man to report that his beliefs have been eliminated from his business is not even trying to be subtle.


4 posted on 07/29/2014 8:18:00 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

This evil - the idea that individuals must obey all government commands regardless of their personal beliefs and that some religious beliefs are unacceptable - was underground for 70 years, but it’s back. National Socialists disgusted me long ago, and today’s socialists still disgust me. I miss the rule of law.


5 posted on 07/29/2014 8:18:35 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: xzins

The Epitome of Leftist Religious Tolerance: None for Christians.


6 posted on 07/29/2014 8:19:10 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: xzins

While I don’t agree with the decision, I don’t understand why the shop owners don’t make a hidious cake for these customers. The customers can then either take the cake, or walk.

I don’t see this as a big deal.


7 posted on 07/29/2014 8:19:47 AM PDT by zek157
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To: xzins

$500 for all homo cakes with “special seasonings” and $25 for all hetero cakes.


8 posted on 07/29/2014 8:20:37 AM PDT by BipolarBob (It wasn't me, it was my clone.)
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To: xzins

You can always fail the exam.


9 posted on 07/29/2014 8:21:38 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: zek157

It’s not a big deal because it didn’t happen to you. A private business ought to do business how and with whomever he wants.


10 posted on 07/29/2014 8:21:49 AM PDT by BipolarBob (It wasn't me, it was my clone.)
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To: xzins

He should stop doing wedding cakes for anyone. Instead he could make a plain white stacked- layer cake. The customer can decorate it anyway they wish, and he could not be charged with discrimination by the ungodly sodomites.

The suggestion that he sell them brownies was funny, though.


11 posted on 07/29/2014 8:22:47 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: zek157

“While I don’t agree with the decision, I don’t understand why the shop owners don’t make a hidious cake for these customers. The customers can then either take the cake, or walk.”

Do you own a small business? I do, and I take pride in the quality of the work I do and consider it a reflection of my character.

The crux of this issue is the State forcing this businessman to abandon his beliefs, How would abandoning his pride of workmanship be a remedy?


12 posted on 07/29/2014 8:23:19 AM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: xzins

Over the past several months, I have seen federal judge after federal judge strike down state laws and amendments declaring marriage to be between a man and a woman.

I expect these same judges to rule against THIS man and force him into the reeducation camp.

FAGGOTS Uber Alles.


13 posted on 07/29/2014 8:24:08 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: xzins

It’s really quite absurd and judges are on the wrong side.


14 posted on 07/29/2014 8:25:14 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: george76

So much for “Reserving the right to refuse service...” I don’t care if it IS your business, that you worked to develop. It’s not your business, or your home, if someone else can tell you what you can or can’t do, or require a permit, or...


15 posted on 07/29/2014 8:25:29 AM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: Sacajaweau

Let them eat........cake!


16 posted on 07/29/2014 8:26:08 AM PDT by refermech
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To: xzins

In a way, I’m glad cases like this come up, because they expose the left for the tyrants they are, notwithstanding the burdens placed upon Mr. Phillips. Sometimes we are called to witness in the weirdest ways, but when called, see it for what it is and must fear not.


17 posted on 07/29/2014 8:29:10 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Shwarzenkaiser: fasionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: xzins

The Civil Rights Commission’s order requires Phillips and his staff to make cakes for same-sex celebrations if asked.

We used to call this Involuntary Servitude


18 posted on 07/29/2014 8:33:42 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: xzins

So if two people came in and wanted a wedding cake done to celebrate their Muslim vows, will he do it? If they come in wanting a wedding cake that praised Satan, would they do it?

It would be worth it to have some other test cases come to his shop just to show that his refusal goes beyond simply homosexuals. That this is just “one of a group” of cakes he would refuse to do.

He should also partner with another business that would have no such objections and refer those customers to that other business, including handing them that partner’s business card. In that sense, they are not refusing the request but redirecting the request.

Now, let’s say that a person performed wedding music instead of baked cakes and they had strong anti-Catholic views. Would the state of Colorado *compel* these musicians to perform at a Catholic wedding? If the answer is “no”, tell me the difference between objecting to wedding cakes and objecting to wedding music? How is it in the state’s interest to override the views, religious or not, of those who are asked to violate their own beliefs?


19 posted on 07/29/2014 8:33:47 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Every time you say no to a liberal, you make the Baby Barack cry.)
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To: zek157

And you expect the shop owners to eat the bill each time customers do not accept their product and walk?


20 posted on 07/29/2014 8:36:12 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Junk Silver

Jack is my baker. If you knew Jack, as I have for nearly 20 years, you would know he would never purposely make a bad cake. He is proud of his “art” and does an incredible job. He has made me everything from foot long Macaws, to motorcyles, “drunken” tulips (21st birthday) and peacocks. He is a good kind man and does not deserve the treatment he is getting. I have a feeling that Jack will be teaching them a thing about tolerance.


21 posted on 07/29/2014 8:36:36 AM PDT by coloradomomba (Lord God...please use me.)
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To: xzins

Shut the business down and restart as something else.

# the state and its statist scumbags.


22 posted on 07/29/2014 8:36:54 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: dware
I don’t care if it IS your business, that you worked to develop.

There's the rub; the supreme communist has already declared: "You didn't build that"

The idea that you did something without them, that you are somehow independent, is abhorrent.

23 posted on 07/29/2014 8:37:00 AM PDT by JOAT
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To: xzins
 
Like I said on an earlier thread, it doesn't matter what he does or doesn't do at this point - he will be a target of the homo/leftist axis of evil for the rest of his days. Capitulating to demands that can never be met would only be giving others power over his life and that's no way to live. Standing up to them is the only real option he has - he's going to have a fight no matter what, it's preferable to make that fight on his terms and not theirs.
 

24 posted on 07/29/2014 8:40:25 AM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: txrefugee
Let them eat cake brownies.
25 posted on 07/29/2014 8:41:05 AM PDT by shove_it (Directive 10-289 lives)
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To: zek157

I think you’re missing the point. They would bake for the gay couple. They had no problem cooking for the gays. They objected a “gay wedding cake”. They said their shop doesn’t make that kind of cake.


26 posted on 07/29/2014 8:42:47 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

There’s a very simple and elegant solution to this:

He agrees to bake the cake. But upfront tells the couple that all profits will be donated to a Christian organization that provides Gay Conversion Therapy. He can even offer to provide the donation in their name, if they’d like him to.

The problem will quickly solve itself.


27 posted on 07/29/2014 8:45:04 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: xzins
And that needs to be quoted over and over again.

Also, we need to deliberately hire homosexual signmakers to make signs for our protest rallies . . . and sue them if they discriminate. Just to get the opposite test case on the table.

Shalom.

28 posted on 07/29/2014 8:46:34 AM PDT by Buggman (returnofbenjamin.com)
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To: Gene Eric

As easy as it is to do an LLC online, they could change their business every year without changing their location. That would be a fun dodge.

But the real issue here is that they’re being told to report on how they’re complying with an order to keep their beliefs out of their business.

If I will make all kinds of other cakes but do not make gay wedding cakes, then who should tell me I have to or be arrested?

Why not tell the auto dealer that he must sell bicycles? Some people, you know, just don’t believe in internal combustion. You sell transportation, then you must sell to them, too.


29 posted on 07/29/2014 8:47:18 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

“He must also re-educate his staff about Colorado’s Anti-Discrimination Act. Under that law, artists must endorse all views. “

Then they aren’t artists anymore. Art has apparently been outlawed in Colorado.


30 posted on 07/29/2014 8:47:43 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: zek157

“While I don’t agree with the decision, I don’t understand why the shop owners don’t make a hidious cake for these customers.”

They don’t want to leave this battle for someone else to fight in the courts, I think. Someone has to do it, and God bless these folks for having the courage to stand their ground.


31 posted on 07/29/2014 8:50:33 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: OrangeHoof

Is there a difference between ‘refuse to do’ AND ‘don’t do that kind’?

I do regular brownies, but I ‘don’t do peanut butter brownies’.

I do garlic bread, but I don’t do ‘pumpkin seed bread.’

I do wedding cakes, but I don’t do a ‘gay wedding cake.’


32 posted on 07/29/2014 8:51:26 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

This is no different than having a requirement to bow to the Golden Calf whenever the “Diversity” music is played. Good for him for disobeying. No King, but King Jesus!


33 posted on 07/29/2014 8:51:30 AM PDT by JohnKinAK
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To: Boogieman

That’s funny, his staff for the last o’ 20 years or so has included his daughter. I think she knows exactly how valuable this “re-education” is.


34 posted on 07/29/2014 8:51:34 AM PDT by coloradomomba (Lord God...please use me.)
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To: xzins
Here is Jacks contact info should you want to drop him an email of encouragement.

masterpiececakeshop@msn.com

35 posted on 07/29/2014 8:52:07 AM PDT by teletech (Say NO to RINOS!)
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To: xzins
The commission stated Phillips' refusal went against the state's public accommodation law. It requires businesses to serve customers regardless of their sexual orientation.

Well that was a malarkey accusation. He is happy to serve customers regardless of their 'sexual orientation' - because he should not even know the customer's sexual orientation. He just refuses to make cakes that have messages on them that he - the baker and owner - finds offensive.
Would the Colorado Commission take Mr. Phillips to task if he refused to make a cake that had white hooded Klansmen (modeled after Grand Keagle Robert Byrd) lynching a black man? He'd be infringing on the Klan's right to free speech -- for consistency sake the Commission should insist that the baker should provide that product also. They'd be wrong -- as they are for insisting that a Christian baker bakes a cake celebrating a sodomite liaison.

36 posted on 07/29/2014 8:52:17 AM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: BipolarBob

The federal government ended those freedoms in the 60s as it dismantled segregation with laws many so called righties like Hannity and looney Beck trumpet


37 posted on 07/29/2014 8:53:33 AM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take backour way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: Boogieman

Then someone needs to gin up a sting for these bastards. Find a gay owned flower shop, for instance and order Nazi and KKK themed floral displays. Let’s see whether or not they enforce the law in this case.


38 posted on 07/29/2014 8:53:34 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: JohnKinAK

Gettin’ a couple of OT accounts mixed together there, but we get the point.


39 posted on 07/29/2014 8:53:42 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: xzins

The company I work for started the b.s. called “diversity” training only a few months before I retired in 1999, large company and attendance was mandatory.

I missed the class three different times, boss knew I was about to retire and left me alone about it. Wink and a nod type situation.


40 posted on 07/29/2014 8:55:19 AM PDT by Graybeard58 ( A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things. Eccl 10,v 19)
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41 posted on 07/29/2014 8:55:26 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: zek157

I thought that too.

Just make ugly cakes for gay marraiges. But someone does to make a stand good on him for doing it.


42 posted on 07/29/2014 8:56:06 AM PDT by autumnraine
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To: tanknetter

Whooee!
I like that!


43 posted on 07/29/2014 8:57:38 AM PDT by peteyd (A dog may bite you in the ass,but it will never stab you in the back.)
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44 posted on 07/29/2014 8:57:50 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: RJS1950

“Find a gay owned flower shop, for instance and order Nazi and KKK themed floral displays. Let’s see whether or not they enforce the law in this case.”

It wouldn’t accomplish anything, because the KKK and Nazis are not “protected classes” under the statutes. You can refuse service to them all day long and nothing will happen.


45 posted on 07/29/2014 9:00:27 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: zek157

You must be young

I admire your defiance but that logic invites more problems


46 posted on 07/29/2014 9:01:36 AM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take backour way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: xzins

I just had a great idea. If I had been ordered by the gov. to make a homo cake. I would have done it and then placed two weiners (hot dogs) sticking up in the middle of it. Then I would have had photographers waiting to record the happy couple when they saw it. The photos would have gone straight to the interwebs.

am I mean?


47 posted on 07/29/2014 9:02:33 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: BipolarBob
The point is that David and Charlie didn't just stumble across this business and suffer having their dignity insulted, or however they want to phrase. David and Charlie went shopping for this business so they could use the force of law to crush them.

No different really from a scam couple who engineers a fake fall in a grocery store so they can extort them. The key difference here is that the law is a party to the extortionist scam.

48 posted on 07/29/2014 9:05:01 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: xzins

By liberal “logic” Nazis in full regalia could march into a Jewish-owned bakery/print shop/sign shop/etc. and order the owners to make or bake them items for a Nazi rally. The owners would have to obey. So what if it violates their consciences. Liberals have decreed that nobody has the right to obey their conscience. Nazis have legal rights. They cannot be turned down....or so say the liberals.


49 posted on 07/29/2014 9:05:17 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: xzins

This is absurd.

what next forced to make a cake

“for the woman I cheat with”

a cake for human animal sex?

This is no different than refusing to bake a cake with an iron file for prison escapes. Baking it may not be a crime, but delivery is the crime.

Also, you do not need ANY religion for find this BEHAVIOR disgusting or objectionable.


50 posted on 07/29/2014 9:06:57 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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