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Study Finds That Men Like Nice Women, But Not the Other Way Around
Newsweak ^ | 25JUL2014 | Paula Mejia

Posted on 07/29/2014 10:08:24 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine

Scientifically, nice (heterosexual) guys might actually finish last. A study published in Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin recently found that while men were attracted to nice-seeming women upon meeting them, women did not feel the same way about men. Researchers from the University of Rochester, the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign and the Interdisciplinary Center (IDC) Herzliya in Israel investigated a possible mechanism explaining why women and men differ in their sexual reactions with receptive opposite-sex strangers.

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1 posted on 07/29/2014 10:08:25 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Apparently a lot of women need better taste


2 posted on 07/29/2014 10:11:55 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

Especially since they initiate 66% to 90% of all divorces in the US.


3 posted on 07/29/2014 10:12:53 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

FWIW

I flinch, I shy, when the lass with the delicate air goes by

I smile, I grin, when the gal with a touch of sin walks in.

I hope, and I pray, for a Hester to win just one more “A”

The sadder-but-wiser girl’s the girl for me.


4 posted on 07/29/2014 10:15:20 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Stop the Stupid!)
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To: prisoner6

Professor Hill is relevant still.


5 posted on 07/29/2014 10:17:09 PM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I think there is a strong inclination to find a man who is tough enough to protect you, make you feel safe, or provide for you. I have read that professionally successful women still seek men who out-earn them and have higher status.

Biology doesn’t change.


6 posted on 07/29/2014 10:18:03 PM PDT by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

“Especially since they initiate 66% to 90% of all divorces in the US.”

I doubt that the number is that high. A lot of divorces are the result of men manipulating women into seeking out another man and thereby the men preserve their assets. Smart women are rare, smart mouthed women are common. It aint the same thing.


7 posted on 07/29/2014 10:18:22 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

Smart mouthed women are common, LOL.

I think you are on to something there!

I wonder if they will do a study of the attractiveness of the smart mouthed females.


8 posted on 07/29/2014 10:19:50 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

Those are the statistics I see from a wide variety of sources.


9 posted on 07/29/2014 10:20:29 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

“A lot of divorces are the result of men manipulating women into seeking out another man and thereby the men preserve their assets.”

The women still get the house, money, and kids; what are you talking about?

If you have any doubt as to who seeks out divorces more, look at who is seeking marriage more - now ask yourself why.


10 posted on 07/29/2014 10:22:21 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Most modern American women are bitching, spiteful, manipulative wastes of time and oxygen. They are turning many men into misogynists.


11 posted on 07/29/2014 10:22:23 PM PDT by Right Brother
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To: prisoner6

Great song. This was always one of my favorites in the show & movie.


12 posted on 07/29/2014 10:23:21 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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A study? I could have told them that for free! But I'm certain it was taxpayer funded!

Mark

13 posted on 07/29/2014 10:23:39 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

“Treat whores like queens and queens like whores...”


14 posted on 07/29/2014 10:24:24 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: married21

I do think this attraction to bad boys has something to do with biology. Perhaps bad boys have more testosterone or better sperm counts, who knows? Interestingly, I think that as women age and lose their ability to have children, they start looking at the nice guys.

For men who are complaining here about nasty women, don’t forget that men - no matter how bad-looking or socially inept - will always seek out gorgeous women to date and marry. I mean, what’s up with that?


15 posted on 07/29/2014 10:27:42 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: married21

This.

Men should have to prove themselves worthy to women, as men are the ones who are going to be the breadwinners and the front-line defenders of the household (and, more often than not, the voice of reason). Work on improving yourself BEFORE you go looking for a wife.

Feminism is killing America, but so are losers whose only positive claim is that they are “nice”. Guarantee that your wife will never have to work again, and you’ll attract the intelligent, conservative women. (If you want to attract liberal, low IQ women, go inject yourself with botox, blow all your money on fashion accessories and Andrea Dworkin books, become metrosexual, and chainsaw your schlong off.)


16 posted on 07/29/2014 10:28:52 PM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: Right Brother
I'm assuming you're one of those guys who is into mail order brides. There used to be a lot more bitter posts like this on FR. It's been a long time since we've had these kinds of screeds. Personally, I find them amusing. Pretty soon we'll have the guys who like Russian dames, Koreans and those supposedly doormat Filipino chicks checking in. Time to watch the hilarious Charles Grodin "Lonely Guy" movie.
17 posted on 07/29/2014 10:32:19 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Right Brother

“Most modern American women are bitching, spiteful, manipulative wastes of time and oxygen. They are turning many men into misogynists.”

Whatever they may be, the general consensus among American men is that the women aren’t marriage material. They get to watch their biological clocks run out while other women do the marrying/breeding (and they’re not thrilled with that).


18 posted on 07/29/2014 10:33:39 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: married21
I think there is a strong inclination to find a man who is tough enough to protect you, make you feel safe, or provide for you.

I am so glad I am old enough to be past such delusionary quests.
19 posted on 07/29/2014 10:41:04 PM PDT by Nepeta
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Personally, I wanted to find a husband that was “tough” like my brother (Marine, hunter, gun expert) but that didn't have his attitude, was sweeter and a bit of a romantic, even if it needed to be hidden from others to boost his own ego!

After dating quite a few girly men and borderline serial killers (ha ha), I found the perfect mix at 26. Moral of my story: Don't settle, stick to your values, and don't think you can “change someone”. Also don't think everything will be smooth going, but work through it.

20 posted on 07/29/2014 10:51:13 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: GeronL

They think he’s a wimp. That’s why they are non-plussed about nice guys.

They want a guy that will be there, but they also need to know that he’ll go into a bear cave if he has to.


21 posted on 07/29/2014 11:08:07 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

No surprise, this.


22 posted on 07/29/2014 11:18:33 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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To: Objective Scrutator
Guarantee that your wife will never have to work again, and you’ll attract the intelligent, conservative women. gold-diggers.

There. Fixed it for you. I shouldn't have to show ridiculous wealth to attract a wife and have children - ESPECIALLY in Obama's job climate!

23 posted on 07/29/2014 11:29:10 PM PDT by Yossarian
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To: miss marmelstein
Re: “Men - no matter how bad-looking or socially inept - will always seek out gorgeous women to date and marry. I mean, what’s up with that?”

For me, it's being truthful.

Why would I lie about my basic biology?

When I was 18, all of the women I thought were sexually attractive were under age 40.

Now, well into my 60’s, I feel exactly the same way.

I have no illusions that younger women find me attractive (but, as a life long runner, I do look a lot better than most guys my age).

However, I am not inclined to lie to the older women who do find me attractive.

Sorry for being me, but you will never take the “boy” out of this “old boy!”

24 posted on 07/29/2014 11:57:18 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Many men will choose “pretty” over “nice.” Pretty and bitchy wins over plain and nice. They will live to regret it, but looks trump all else for too many men.


25 posted on 07/29/2014 11:59:28 PM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: informavoracious

Why can’t the nice girls watch their weight and wear makeup?


26 posted on 07/30/2014 12:20:59 AM PDT by LT Brass Bancroft
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To: GeronL

“Apparently a lot of women need better taste.”

You didn’t stop to ask yourself why such a trend might have come about, or why it might be perpetuated. Sometimes there are very good reasons behind the existence of very bad things.

Human beings function with, among other things, basic constraints based on our biology. Aside from the fact that men and women are different, men and women also face different reproductive pressures and incentives. The same mating strategy that would work for a male would be disastrous for a female.

Look back on the last few thousand years of written history, and extrapolate those trends back through tens of thousands of years of pre-history. What happens to weak, effeminate men that build weak, effeminate societies? They’re eventually wiped out by stronger neighbors, yes? What do you think has happened to the women and families of weak, effeminate men?

Do you think tens of thousands of years of social, political, military and economic pressures have created an “incentive” for women to mate with beta males? Quite the opposite, there’s a very real emotional drive for a woman to choose a man capable of protecting her, providing for her, and ensuring that her offspring have all the safety and opportunity necessary to succeed. Frankly, “nice” isn’t a synonym for strong protector, provider, and when necessary dirty fighter and conniving procurer of all things necessary. More often “nice” is a synonym for “potential victim”.

It’s the most natural thing in the world for women to be sexually repulsed by meek, helpless men. It’s less potentially disastrous for a woman to mate with a capable ***hole than it is to hitch her genetic wagon to a girly boy that couldn’t possibly summon up the required courage and rage to kill when necessary. The world is not a nice, happy place — and nice, happy people tend to end up on the dinner menu.

Understand first that men and women are different. They have different needs, different emotional responses, different drives. Understand what makes women tick, what drives their most ancestral and primal emotional urges, and work with biology rather than against it. You’ll be happier, and your woman will be happier, if you understand that men should be men and women should be women.

My advice to young men would be to first, be men. Be unrepentant, self-confident, capable, assertive men. Your job in this life is not to be a girlfriend, your reason for existing is not to be a maid, your purpose is not to be what every nitwit feminist and halfwit talk show host “says” women want. Be hard. Be men.

My advice to young women would be to understand the difference between an ***hole and a capable, responsible, unrepentant man. There are a few men out there in the world that have what it takes to face any challenge, win when all the chips are on the table, to stare down or beat down any attacker, or at least pick their bloody selves up off the ground and give as good as they got, and still have the basic moral fiber to stand by a faithful woman and provide for as well as protect his home and family at all costs. Better an ***hole than a doormat, but best to have a protector rather than an ***hole. In the end, I’d advise a young woman to be feminine, and encourage her other half to be masculine; you’ll both be happier, more efficient, more capable people as a result.


27 posted on 07/30/2014 12:30:02 AM PDT by jameslalor
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To: miss marmelstein

You sound bitter. Hopefullt you’re a long time lez. Poor widdle girl


28 posted on 07/30/2014 12:57:48 AM PDT by Reagan‹berAlles (To be a Liberal is to be anti-American, by definition.)
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To: miss marmelstein

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What sane man would pick a Hillary or a Michelle to wake up next to in the morning?

- YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

- the instant IQ test for morons like Slick Willie and B Hussein Oblow

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29 posted on 07/30/2014 1:13:22 AM PDT by devolve (-Tell VLADIMER after my ERECTION I have more 90% more FLEXIBILITY - pre-1899 Colt SAA frames needed)
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To: miss marmelstein
I do think this attraction to bad boys has something to do with biology. Perhaps bad boys have more testosterone or better sperm counts, who knows?

Perhaps it has something to do with "putting one's best foot forward" being part of the natural domain of the deceptive person. The nice guy may also appear a bit uncomfortable whereas the more sociopathic person will tend to come across as more comfortable and therefore be perceived as more sincere.

30 posted on 07/30/2014 1:40:46 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Translation: Women really want real men instead of “metro-sexual” wusses. They want a man who, when he wants to “get in touch with his feminine side”, reaches out for them instead of inside himself.


31 posted on 07/30/2014 1:59:29 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Duh. This is red pill PUA stuff.


32 posted on 07/30/2014 2:24:11 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Steely Tom

Is that Professor Benjamin Hill?


33 posted on 07/30/2014 2:24:56 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: KC_Conspirator

Professor Harold Hill
Gary, Indiana
Class of ‘Oh-five.


34 posted on 07/30/2014 2:43:39 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and in politic)
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To: Tucker39

I was speaking of Benjamin “Benny” Hill, BBC.


35 posted on 07/30/2014 2:49:28 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: miss marmelstein
This all has to do with biology. Women are attracted to edginess and social status; it somehow registers in their minds as being more valuable mates. Men on the other hand are quite simpler; pretty and good natured women appeal them as good mates.

Conversely, we could take a look at what women and men find unattractive and it would support this study. Think about the hovering beta males and/or clingy/needy guys you know, or even dated. Makes you cringe with disgust, right? The same can almost be said about men and unattractive women and /or mean women. However, there is the graph to where most men will put up with a woman's craziness or meanness in proportion to how much they find them attractive.

36 posted on 07/30/2014 2:49:49 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: fso301

I don’t think my beloved King of Kool - Steve McQueen - a bad boy if ever there was one - was a sociopath. Actually, a patriotic Republican who simply couldn’t handle all that success with money, wine and women. I think women are attracted to dynamic men when they are young.


37 posted on 07/30/2014 2:53:42 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Tucker39

Class of Aught-Five, actually.


38 posted on 07/30/2014 2:54:15 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Reagan√úberAlles

Huh? Me a lez? Oops, the mail order bride guys are comin’ to git me!


39 posted on 07/30/2014 2:55:28 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein
Pretty soon we'll have the guys who like Russian dames, Koreans and those supposedly doormat Filipino chicks checking in

99% of which are complete scam artists anyway. LOL!

40 posted on 07/30/2014 2:59:41 AM PDT by southern rock
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To: southern rock

The Russians are the worst! Pretty girls, some the daughters of billionaire thugs - who still try to bilk their boyfriends out of money.


41 posted on 07/30/2014 3:03:49 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: trebb
Translation: Women really want real men instead of “metro-sexual” wusses. They want a man who, when he wants to “get in touch with his feminine side”, reaches out for them instead of inside himself.

No, that is not the takeaway from the article at all. The take away is that women were not attracted to men who were RESPONSIVE to them. The take away for men is that they don't need to be tough, just unavailable.

Treat hot chicks like they are repulsive, and the panties fall down!!

42 posted on 07/30/2014 3:09:33 AM PDT by southern rock
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To: KC_Conspirator

No, it has to do with society. In most other societies intelligent and attractive women go after intelligent and successful gentlemen. They expect to be treated as ladies -because they are. The ‘bad boy’ types are universally scorned as scoundrels -because they are.

Only liberalism could obscure and degrade the roles in creating a family.


43 posted on 07/30/2014 3:12:10 AM PDT by Justa
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To: informavoracious
Pretty and bitchy wins over plain and nice. They will live to regret it, but looks trump all else for too many men.

Both sexes have an obligation to lose weight, workout, and look good. Otherwise, don't complain.

44 posted on 07/30/2014 3:13:07 AM PDT by southern rock
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To: miss marmelstein

As men are ‘hard-wired’ to respond/be attracted to physical beauty (symmetry of features across cultures),
women are ‘hard-wired’ to respond to STRENGTH.

The *bad boy* triggers wimmenz lizard brain/libido, to the extent that they allow themselves to be driven by their baser desires (forebrain is shunted aside - not considering that bad boy would not, in fact, be a steady provider) -

the same way in reverse,
as David was Bathsheba’d
and
Samson was Delilah’d...


45 posted on 07/30/2014 3:22:50 AM PDT by spankalib ("I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves.")
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To: spankalib

Apparently, young, attractive women send a message to men that they are healthy and fertile. That’s what I’ve read anyway.


46 posted on 07/30/2014 3:41:49 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

This isn’t news. Nice guys have always known this.


47 posted on 07/30/2014 3:51:03 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: MarkL

“A study? I could have told them that for free! But I’m certain it was taxpayer funded!”

Exactly!

Now, we need a study to discover what motivated the professors to waste more tax payer money. (Well, we KNOW, but they should know that we know. What a crock.)


48 posted on 07/30/2014 4:26:43 AM PDT by kitkat (STORM HEAVEN WITH PRAYERS FOR OUR COUNTRY)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Definitely experienced this (long ago) when I was dating. Lost track of the number of times that women told me I was “too nice”. At the time, it was very frustrating; however, in hindsight, it turned out to be a great filter. Any women who thought I was too nice failed the “Sanity test”, which helped simplify the job of eventually meeting my wife.

IMHO, women who reject guys who are “too nice” deserve exactly what they get.


49 posted on 07/30/2014 4:27:18 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: jameslalor

Understand what you are saying. There is a saying that a “bad-a$$” makes a girl’s heart beat faster. Fine. The only problem is when the bad-a$$ is the guy who can barely provide for her (maybe not even that) and is most likely to abuse or leave her. Meanwhile, the “nice” guy is not necessarily a victim. In many cases, he is the guy with a bank account, a good job and a future. As we know, it’s often the “nerd” who has the last laugh.


50 posted on 07/30/2014 4:34:50 AM PDT by rbg81
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