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Netflix agrees to pay AT&T to ensure smooth video downloads
Reuters ^ | 7/29/14

Posted on 07/30/2014 4:27:45 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

ideo streaming service Netflix has agreed to pay U.S. broadband provider AT&T Inc to ensure smooth delivery of Netflix content to Internet users, the companies said on Tuesday.

The announcement of the deal, struck in May, comes as Netflix has been waging a public campaign against such fees, which they present as tolls, and calling on the Federal Communications Commission to review the market.

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KEYWORDS: film; internet; money
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Is this part of the net neutrality debate?
1 posted on 07/30/2014 4:27:45 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

I pay Verizon for my 75MBit internet connection and I still get screen stalls when I watch Netflix, Hulu-Plus or a movie rental from Amazon. It especially irks me when I shell out $6 or $7 for a premium film only to have it stall and buffer 15 or 20 times during viewing.


2 posted on 07/30/2014 4:38:45 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Unarmed people cannot defend themselves. America is no longer a Free Country.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Is this part of the net neutrality debate?

Sure is, and this is just the opening salvo. This is going to get MUCH worse. Your price to use NetFlix is about to skyrocket.

3 posted on 07/30/2014 4:43:07 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: BuffaloJack

> It especially irks me when I shell out $6 or $7 for a
> premium film only to have it stall and buffer 15 or 20
> times during viewing.

Still better than commercials.


4 posted on 07/30/2014 4:44:53 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: BuffaloJack
I pay Verizon

That's part of your problem.

All jokes aside, this is what happens when the Feds disallow net neutrality. You're shelling out money every month for an Internet connection but you're not buying "premium" connectivity "rights." The government has just allowed providers to request more money for premium access. Your NetFlix isn't going to get any better. If anything, it'll get worse, and Verizon will start spamming your Inbox with emails saying, "Buy now to get premium access to NetFlix and other streaming providers!"

5 posted on 07/30/2014 4:47:18 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: BuffaloJack

Netflix viewed via Chromecast does much better than streaming direct from my Roku


6 posted on 07/30/2014 4:54:25 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Netflix has been annoying me lately with the lack of good stuff.

Like I was watching How Its Made and suddenly every season but one vanishes.


7 posted on 07/30/2014 5:13:09 AM PDT by Crazieman (Are you naive enough to think VOTING will fix this entrenched system?)
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To: rarestia

Stupid gets what stupid deserves. People were warned. Telecoms like Verizon and ATT are close to criminal and have a history of shady business practices. They are greed heads and want more money and will do anything to achieve it. Heir goal is to control the supply of internet by not building their networks out. As long as bandwidth is limited, they can charge more and invent these ridiculous toll schemes.

Soon we will be back to pay by the hour internet. It’s getting close with these artificial bandwidth limits. Stifle innovation to maintain a monopoly. It worked with telephones for decades. The internet is merely another thing to be controlled and exploited. It needs to be open and neutral but some just don’t see the full picture. Never trust the telecoms of service providers.


8 posted on 07/30/2014 5:15:14 AM PDT by drunknsage
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To: bert

How do you get Netflix from the computer to the TV?

I can watch movies free on my computer, but the TV would be better for viewing.


9 posted on 07/30/2014 5:17:41 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: SoFloFreeper
'Net neutrality' is an absolute quagmire of confusion and and contraction. I still don't know which side to come down on after listening to several discussions involving experts, such as Leo Laporte and Steve Gibson. It's not quite as simple as Netflix fighting with your isp over traffic. Third parties, such as Level 3 Communications, sit between the two and are also jockeying for increased revenue for providing the huge bandwidth requirements due to the popularity of Netflix.

One thing is certain: net neutrality is a government-branded term, like 'The Affordable Care Act'. Simplified explanations sound good, but there's much to be disturbed about under the hood.

Do some research and learn about the incestuous relationships between lobbyists, the FCC and cable companies/ISPs, especially Comcast. Current FCC commissioner Tom Wheeler was a lobbyist for the cable industry and raised over half a million for Obama's campaigns. That doesn't exactly inspire confidence in me that he's looking out for my best interests...

No matter which way the net neutrality door swings, it will have both intended and unintended negative consequences that heavily impact us, the customers. As usual, we're the last ones to be considered and the ones who will have to foot the bill.

10 posted on 07/30/2014 5:18:40 AM PDT by DJ Frisat (Proudly providing the NSA with provocative textual content since 1995!)
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To: rarestia

I don’t think this is about the price of Netflix or at least not much. Netflix probably got a sweet deal.

This has more to do with ISP getting a chunk of Google, Amazon and everybody else making money on the internet. The best analogy I can think of is the Feds using tax money to build a highway for everybody to use, then turning it into a toll road.

Netflix is paying the toll. Now that the precedence is set, they are going to be hitting everybody else they see making a profit.

And just so everybody can share the pain, after making all the content providers pay for special consideration of their access to bandwidth, they are going to cap the consumer’s account so they don’t abuse the privilege of receiving this content.


11 posted on 07/30/2014 5:25:43 AM PDT by dangerdoc ((this space for rent))
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To: dangerdoc

It’s absolutely about the price of Netflix. If Netflix pays their provider for a larger pipe or for premium inbound network bandwidth, who do you think will pay that bill?


12 posted on 07/30/2014 5:27:57 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Beagle8U

There is a device that costs $35 from Walmart, called google Chrome cast. It casts everything on the google browser to the TV. ie Free Republic, You tube, Netflix, Hulu etc. Also programs available on the web....... all CBS programming for instance.

You find Netflix on google chrome browser and punch the Chrome Cast tab and the TV set to receive Chrome Cast input has the programming on the computer screen

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_cast


13 posted on 07/30/2014 5:28:24 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: bert
Netflix viewed via Chromecast does much better than streaming direct from my Roku

With the bonus benefit of letting Google know exactly what you've been watching!

14 posted on 07/30/2014 5:30:08 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: BuffaloJack
I pay Verizon for my 75MBit internet connection and I still get screen stalls when I watch Netflix, Hulu-Plus or a movie rental from Amazon. It especially irks me when I shell out $6 or $7 for a premium film only to have it stall and buffer 15 or 20 times during viewing.

I'm supposed to have the highest tier internet service from Comcast and my Netflix always cuts out.

Geeze! It's like we are in a 1930's mob movie with the goons offering "protection" now? "Hey, you wouldn't want anything bad to happen to family movie night, would ya, pal"?

15 posted on 07/30/2014 5:31:02 AM PDT by southern rock
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To: Beagle8U

I have used three methods for getting video from my computer to the TV.

Roku. It will directly stream much of the content plus you can stream video directly from network storage. Great for viewing the thousands of channels that are directly available. A pain for streaming from the network.

Chromecast. It will directly stream a handful of content channels, much less than the Roku, but on the upside will mirror a Chrome web window directly to the TV. Anything you can play on a web screen, you can play on the TV. The downside is there is some loss of video quality and occasionally there is a glitch and streaming stops.

HDMI cable. My wife’s least favorite as it involves a cord from my computer to the TV. Your TV becomes your computer screen. It just works.


16 posted on 07/30/2014 5:34:13 AM PDT by dangerdoc ((this space for rent))
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To: Beagle8U

You could get a Chromecast or similar device which reads signals from your computer to the TV. Or devices specifically for Netflix/Hulu/etc (like Roku, Amazon Fire, Apple TV) - just to name a few - there are many more now. The newer game systems also include the apps (from the last gen Playstations and Xbox and forward). And the new “smart TV’s” have the apps built in as well. Many different ways to get it to the TV.


17 posted on 07/30/2014 5:38:56 AM PDT by mykroar (This is an insult to the nation's intelligence and these days, that isn't easy.)
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To: DJ Frisat
No matter which way the net neutrality door swings, it will have both intended and unintended negative consequences that heavily impact us, the customers.

That's the truth about what will happen.

At the beginning of the net neutrality debate, it seemed as if the ISPs were just trying to squeeze more revenue out of their customers, despite giving them graded service by speed. However, I've heard that at primetime, up to 1/3 of the traffic is generated by Netflix. If that's true, they are taking advantage of the infrastructure provided by the ISPs.

The situation is reminiscent of the 90's, which ended in a humongous telecom crash. In the Telecommunications Act of 1994, the government mandated that central exchange phone companies had to give access to their switching fabric to what were called "co-located exchange operators", or CLECs. The CLECs used this access to provide a variety of novel and often cutrate services, which they could do, because they were piggybacking on the expenditures of the main telephone companies.

So, what happened? Cisco sold a lot of routers, IPOs were done, stocks rode high for a while, and eventually the whole mess crashed.

This is similar, in that once a huge content vendor like NFLX arises, it takes advantage of the existing infrastructure. Great deal for the consumer... for a while.

Eventually, you get pushback, and ultimately, the ISPs will be more than compensated. Probably, big content providers like Netflix will strike a deal on the supply side (for which the Netflix customer will pay), and high-speed users will pay an additional quality of service fee for packet priority.

18 posted on 07/30/2014 5:41:13 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: rarestia

Read my reply.

I’m betting this is more about Google and the other major players paying the vig than your monthly Netflix bill.


19 posted on 07/30/2014 5:41:24 AM PDT by dangerdoc ((this space for rent))
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To: Beagle8U
How do you get Netflix from the computer to the TV?

You need an intermediary device, such as WD TV Live box or ROKU box or similar (there are a dozen or so on the market for around $75).

You also need a router as part of your internet set up.

WD TV Live info link

ROKU box info link

Newer 'smart' TVs have the links built into their 'aps' section.
20 posted on 07/30/2014 5:41:47 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: bert

Can you control it with a desktop computer, or only tablet/laptop? All I have is desktop.


21 posted on 07/30/2014 5:45:29 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Beagle8U

All the newer Bluray DVD players have a setting to connect.

Check your owners manual.


22 posted on 07/30/2014 5:46:05 AM PDT by Mrs.Z
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To: BuffaloJack

I never have problems watching HD movies and shows on my 3 MB DSL connection.
... because I download them!

Stupid of Netflix to not offer that option,


23 posted on 07/30/2014 5:54:50 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Mrs.Z

I don’t have Blu-ray either. Will the $35 chromecast thingy from Wally World work?


24 posted on 07/30/2014 5:58:41 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Beagle8U

If your TV has a VGA connection just run a VGA cable to it from the computer and set your display options to use the TV as a monitor.
It’s easy.


25 posted on 07/30/2014 6:01:39 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I have no problem with this...

Netflix makes a lot of money from subscribers, and they generate a lot of bandwidth for it. Somebody has to provide the backbone for that, and they should be compensated.


26 posted on 07/30/2014 6:03:21 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Can you get a VGA cable 50 feet long?


27 posted on 07/30/2014 6:08:37 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Beagle8U

Nope, about 5 foot is all. Sorry.


28 posted on 07/30/2014 6:11:23 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Beagle8U

I’m kinda computer/electronic device illiterate. When I grew up the only electronic games were pinball machines, TV’s had round screens, weighed 150lbs and were rare.


29 posted on 07/30/2014 6:15:41 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: rarestia

Millenials feel they have an inalienable right to unlimited broadband at near-free pricing.

This is a HUGE issue. Net Neutrality, reining in the NSA, and a promise to punish bankers is going to elect our first Fake White Indian President IMO.


30 posted on 07/30/2014 6:17:07 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

After 8 years of King Putt, electing Lieawatha would kill off what is left of our freedoms.


31 posted on 07/30/2014 6:23:37 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Beagle8U

50ft Super VGA

32 posted on 07/30/2014 6:24:46 AM PDT by Cooter
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To: Beagle8U

There are 50 foot VGA cables. HDMI would provide the best picture and sound quality though.


33 posted on 07/30/2014 6:26:21 AM PDT by Render
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Oh 2016 is a wash, I’m already convinced of that. The entire American experiment has exploded all over the lab and is dripping down the walls.


34 posted on 07/30/2014 6:26:25 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Cooter

That would work, thanks!


35 posted on 07/30/2014 6:30:47 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Beagle8U

You’ll also need something for the audio.


36 posted on 07/30/2014 6:39:28 AM PDT by Cooter
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To: Cooter

This is getting complex...lol.

I’m going to wind up with a rat’s nest of wires strung through the house to get the latest invention...silent movies?

I might just watch on my computer monitor.


37 posted on 07/30/2014 6:52:47 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: SoFloFreeper

It is part of net neutrality debate in regard to QoS. Right now it is best effort Internet and netflix type over the top providers that feed on the host (carriers) take their chances on the underlying connection. I just have a 6M connection and netflix generally works pretty good for standard def with some occasional glitches. But it’s cheap. If people want a premium service with greater guarantees they will have to pay more. I can live with what I have now.


38 posted on 07/30/2014 6:58:07 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: drunknsage
The bandwidth problem is invented IMO, to do just what you summarized.
Create an internet blockage then charge more to unblock the created blockage.

This problem seems to be only happening in America.

39 posted on 07/30/2014 6:58:31 AM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Beagle8U

I use one of these. Works well. Have my laptop set up next to the tv. It just mirrors your laptop.
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12968333


40 posted on 07/30/2014 7:46:25 AM PDT by sheana
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To: sheana

No laptop here.


41 posted on 07/30/2014 7:47:49 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Beagle8U

You also need a regular hdmi cable but you can buy those in any length you need.


42 posted on 07/30/2014 7:51:38 AM PDT by sheana
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To: Beagle8U

http://www.amazon.com/BlueRigger-High-Speed-HDMI-Cable/dp/B004GW25WY/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1406732028&sr=8-3&keywords=long+hdmi+cable

You said 50 ft. With one of these and the converter I posted you can mirror your desktop onto your tv in the other room. It does audio too so all you need is the one cable running.


43 posted on 07/30/2014 7:55:26 AM PDT by sheana
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To: sheana

OK thanks. I’ll see if I can get one of those rigged up.


44 posted on 07/30/2014 8:12:59 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Here I was blaming Netflix for locking up every time I had to rewind the video I was watching by only a few minutes because I missed a little dialog or a scene. The thing would freeze after 40% of progress and I would have to reload Netflix.

Now I realize that it was all because At&T was trying to suck more money out of Netflix? Great. Expect those “fees and tolls” to be passed on to the customer....as always.

45 posted on 07/30/2014 8:17:15 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: Beagle8U
How do you get Netflix from the computer to the TV?

If you have a smart TV, run out and buy a ROKU box for $80. It is allows you to watch not just Netflix but Amazon streaming and Youtube (Youtube has movies and shows that you will not find anywhere else) They also allow Fox news and many other movie and TV channels. We have ROKU on two TVs and Google on another. Google allows me to use my iphone or ipad to bring up HBO GO (for current episodes of Game of Thrones) and send it directly to my TV. (cost $39)

I'm love both of these gadgets so much that we dropped DirecTV and our $110 bill every month. I can't say enough about ROKU or Google TV.

46 posted on 07/30/2014 8:25:46 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: Beagle8U

They are really easy. The converter plugs into your usb port on the computer then the hdmi cable plugs into the end of the converter then the hdmi port on your tv. That’s it. Your tv will mirror whatever is on your computer. I watch everything this way. I stream shows and movies from my computer to my tv every day using it.
Great little gadget.


47 posted on 07/30/2014 8:25:56 AM PDT by sheana
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To: submarinerswife

You really don’t need any roku box or google chromecast or to pay for any premium channels. That stuff is free to stream all over the net. Hook your computer to the tv with a digital converter and you are home free. And you can watch anything you want. Not just what the roku or chromecast tells you you can watch.


48 posted on 07/30/2014 8:29:35 AM PDT by sheana
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To: submarinerswife

I have a dumb TV. I get youtube channel on the direct TV channels, but it don’t work on my TV.

It is a newer VIZIO, but dumb as a stump.


49 posted on 07/30/2014 8:51:42 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Beagle8U

I don’t know for certain.

As I understand it the chrome cast ap teaches/allows the computer wireless to communicate with the chromecast device plugged into the TV


50 posted on 07/30/2014 8:54:38 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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