Skip to comments.Obama’s Muslim Founding Fathers
Posted on 07/30/2014 5:38:46 AM PDT by SJackson
Obamas Muslim Founding Fathers
Posted By Robert Spencer On July 30, 2014 @ 12:24 am In Daily Mailer,FrontPage | 8 Comments
In his message to Muslims on their holiday Eid al-Fitr, issued Sunday, Barack Obama asserted that Eid also reminds us of the many achievements and contributions of Muslim Americans to building the very fabric of our nation and strengthening the core of our democracy. He did not, unfortunately, provide even a single example of these many achievements and contributions that Muslims have made to building the very fabric of our nation, but he said that there were many, so they shouldnt be hard to list a few, right?
You remember a few of them, dont you? Remember the Muslim signers of the Declaration of Independence? With Yahya al-Hanqoqs large signature front and center, so that the infidel King George III could read it without his spectacles? And then there was Ibrahim Clark of New Jersey and El-Bridge Gerry of Massachusetts. Remember also the Muslims who gave James Madison information about Muhammads Constitution of Medina which, as we all know, granted equal rights to women and religious minorities, predating such documents in the West by 1,000 years. Madison, of course, used the Medina Constitution as a model when framing the U.S. Constitution.
Then there were the Muslims who fought so valiantly during the War of 1812 and the Mexican War. And in the titanic struggles over slavery, Muslims were front and center: remember the Muslim abolitionist Senators who faced down the South in the antebellum Senate, the Senate chamber ringing with their oratory about how the Quran says to free slaves and so the U.S. government should, too? Remember the Muslim regiments in the Civil War (all on the Union side, of course!)? Then in the aftermath of the Civil War came the Muslim industrialists who brought us railroads, the telegraph, the telephone.
Not to be forgotten are the Muslims who also fought courageously in the Spanish-American War, World War I and World War II, and the Muslim entertainers who kept us laughing on the Vaudeville circuit and on the home front during those terrible world wars with their jokes from the Hadith.
None of this rings a bell? Not to worry. Before too long it will be taught in all the textbooks. Absurd? Maybe but no more than Obamas statement itself. And even if they dont go so far as to Islamize John Hancock and imagine Muslim Americans fighting against slavery and defending America in world wars, public school textbooks already present a ridiculously rosy picture of Islam. A study by the American Textbook Council, an independent national research organization that evaluates the quality of textbooks, found that ten of the most widely used middle school and high school social studies textbooks present an incomplete and confected view of Islam that misrepresents its foundations and challenges to international security.
The books present highly tendentious constructions as undisputed truth, making common cause with West-hating multiculturalists to bowdlerize the presentation of Islam, denigrate or downplay Christianity and Western civilization, and transform numerous public school textbooks into proselytizing tracts.
Meanwhile, even though the Constitution of Medina is of highly doubtful authenticity and is contradicted both by Islamic law and by Islamic traditions about Muhammads actions, it is already becoming common for Islamic apologists to invoke it as evidence that Islam and democracy are not only compatible, but that Islam originated the idea of republican rule. Ahmadi Muslim apologist Qasim Rashid recently wrote in the Huffington Post that when Prophet Muhammad was popularly appointed Medinas ruler, he entered into a pact with the Jewish communities of Medina. Through this pact, he granted equal political rights to non-Muslims. They were ensured complete freedom of religion and practice. Undercutting Rashids case are the facts that Muhammad ended up exiling two of the Jewish tribes of Medina and massacring the third, and that the Quran mandates that Jews (and Christians) in the Islamic state, rather than enjoying equal political rights, must pay the jizya with willing submission and feel themselves subdued (9:29).
But facts just get in the way of the narrative, and so the facts must go. It feels so good and multicultural to imagine Muslims at the founding of this nation, contributing to its very fabric, doesnt it? Heck, speaking of fabric, probably Betsy Ross was a Muslim. And doesnt the flag of South Carolina have a crescent moon on it?
Likewise regarding slavery I imagine Muslim abolitionists above in pre-Civil War America above, in trying to give some substance to Barack Obamas absurd statement. In reality, of course, there were no Muslim abolitionists, or Muslims, in the antebellum United States. Whats more, there were no Muslim abolitionists anywhere. Islamic apologists in the West routinely claim that Islam forbids slavery, but in fact the Quran takes slavery for granted, and according to Islamic tradition, Muhammad hallowed the practice by owning slaves himself. In some Muslim nations, it is still practiced, even though it is against the law (laws that initially began to be adopted in Muslim countries under Western pressure). Mauritania, for example, abolished slavery in 1981 and made it a crime in 2012, but it is still widespread because it has Islamic sanction. Yet I myself remember being taught in high school, way back in the 1970s, that the last country to abolish slavery was Brazil, in 1889. There was no mention of Saudi Arabias abolishing slavery in 1962, or of the persistence of the practice in some Muslim countries. And that was forty years ago, showing that whitewashing of Islam in the textbooks, now rampant, had begun even then.
So when it comes to Barack Obamas claim that Muslim Americans have made contributions to building the very fabric of our nation and strengthening the core of our democracy, if there were no Muslim Founding Fathers scrutinizing the Constitution of Medina for material they could use in the charter document of their new nation, then they have to be invented. The textbooks have already departed from reality regarding Islam what could possibly be the problem with a few more steps into fantasy? What difference, at this point, does it make? Yahya al-Hanqoq, grab your quill!
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Aside from 9/11—I really can’t think of another thing.
Muslims have done little to move this country forward. Their whole religion is based in the 7th century.
This country really took a wrong turn when we elected this Muslim turd.
We will survive him, but he will find it hard to find a place to live in the U.S. after he is out of office; he is an intellectual and moral leper IMHO.
If youd like to be on or off, please FR mail me.
“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its
votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in
a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic
apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries, improvident
habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of
commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the
followers of the Prophet rule or live.
A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and
refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that
in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his
absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine,
must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of
Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the
influence of the religion paralyses the social development of
those who follow it.
No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from
being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing
faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa,
raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that
Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the
science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization
of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient
Sir Winston Churchill; (Source: The River War, first edition,
Vol. II, pages 248-50 London)
How about "From the halls of Montezuma, to the shores of Tripoli?"
Muslim pirates motivated the early formation of a marine force.
Obama asserted that Eid also reminds us of the many achievements and contributions of Muslims to building the very fabric of our nation, Indonesia”
there fixed it
A “constitutional scholar” should know this.
True to this day!
“after he is out of office”
That is IF he is out office. I wouldn’t be surprised if he pulls something to stay in power.
They hate the West.
Why are they here ?
We dun got ham lard-coated bullets up`n here in the mountains waitin` for them muslim flounders, yessireee Bob!
Greece had a democracy and Rome had a republic when Muhammad’s Arab ancestors were still trying to figure out how to scrape the sand out of their camels’ hooves.
The one thing I remember is that Morocco has the longest period of friendly relations with the United States because the Sultan of Morocco and the US government entered into a friendship treaty during the Revolution or right afterward. I guess that counts for something.
They hate the West.
Why are they here ?
to turn it into the western middle east
He is bringing Ebola to America from Africa. Seems like drug resistant TB and gang bangers from Mexico and points south are too slow for the Martial Law that will keep him in power.
He is not going away.
Muslims are responsible for some of the US Navy. Early on in our history, the US sent warships to Africa to fight the Barbary pirates, aka the Barbary corsairs or Ottoman corsairs.
Then as now, Muslims were treacherous, murderous, lying, deceitful kidnappers, slavers and pirates.
“Their predation extended throughout the Mediterranean, south along West Africa’s Atlantic seaboard and even South America, and into the North Atlantic as far north as Iceland, but they primarily operated in the western Mediterranean.
“In addition to seizing ships, they engaged in *Razzias*, raids on European coastal towns and villages, mainly in Italy, France, Spain, and Portugal, but also in the British Isles, the Netherlands and as far away as Iceland. The main purpose of their attacks was to capture Christian slaves for the Ottoman slave trade as well as the general Muslim market in North Africa and the Middle East.
“Following the Napoleonic Wars and the Congress of Vienna in 181415, European powers agreed upon the need to suppress the Barbary corsairs entirely and the threat was largely subdued, although occasional incidents continued until finally terminated by the French conquest of Algiers in 1830.
“Until the American Declaration of Independence in 1776, British treaties with the North African states protected American ships from the Barbary corsairs.
“Morocco, which in 1777 was the first independent nation to publicly recognize the United States, became in 1784 the first Barbary power to seize an American vessel after independence.
“The Barbary threat led directly to the creation of the United States Navy in March 1794.
“While the United States managed to secure peace treaties, these obliged it to pay tribute for protection from attack. Payments in ransom and tribute to the Barbary states amounted to 20% of United States government annual expenditures in 1800.
“The First Barbary War in 1801 and the Second Barbary War in 1815 led to more favorable peace terms ending the payment of tribute. However, Algiers broke the 1805 peace treaty after only two years, and subsequently refused to implement the 1815 treaty until compelled to do so by Britain in 1816.”
The bottom line, to Mr. Obama, is that the only “Muslim-Americans” who contributed “to building the very fabric of our nation and strengthening the core of our democracy” were kidnapped American slaves, forced to convert to Islam for fear of their lives.
And yes, though at the point of bayonets we forced them to agree to *officially* abolish slavery, they still practice it extensively, often with Islamic government sanction.
Pigs then, still pigs today.
For nearly fifteen centuries the world has faced the disease of Islam, but our nation faced it head on when Thomas Jefferson, serving as the ambassador to France, and John Adams, servicing as the ambassador to Britain, went to London to meet with Ambassador Abdrahaman, the Dey of Tripoli's ambassador to Britain. Of course they met with Abdrahaman to negotiate a peace treaty, but keep in mind that in Islam, the only peace is submission to Islam.
To hear an American president speak like this sounds like treason to me.
Actually they were trying to abolish slavery in Africa by selling the locals to the western slavers! So, by extention I guess he has a point!!
1. Muslims have not done jack to build our nation.
2. To Obama: We don't live in a democracy, you f'n a-hole.
Umm, who was it again that captured, enslaved and sold black Africans to Europe and America?
This is ANOTHER poke in the eye by the regime.
They WANT us to get worked up and START trouble with muslims here in the US.
This idiot masquerading as a president is ALL about inciting violence and strife between WHITE people and ANY other group.
They’re craaaaaving this.
The fop is a traitor. This is very difficult for many to accept. Everything this degenerate does is intentional.
Don’t forget the “the Shores of Tripoli”.
The Muslims are here: using social services, collecting benefits and voting Democratic. To Obama, there is no greater “achievement”.
Weren't the Barbary pirates Muslim? And without them, would the U.S. Marines have become what they did?
“Aside from 9/11I really cant think of another thing.”
Muslims contributed to the USA as follows:
1. Tested the Marines in the Halls of Tripoli.
2. Were the originators of the African slave trade
3. Caused the USA to build a professional Navy due to their piracy (see #1, related).
4. Have active prison “ministries” to run very effective criminal gangs that pull select blacks out of poverty, albeit generally to the detriment of their neighbors.
That’s about it.
Halls = Shores. Give me a break; I’m Israeli.
The United States IS NOT a democracy. It is a Constitutional Republic, by design and intent. Our founders were smart enough to understand the perils of democracies.
Crazier still is that far too many of our 'fellow Americans' buy it too.
Sure. Sure. We get it, Mr. President! **snort**
The Koran demands perpetual war against all who deny Mahomet as the prophet of God - John Quincy Adams
Muhammad's doctrine was violence and lust: to exalt the brutal over the spiritual - John Quincy Adams
While the merciless dogmas of Muhammad remain there can never be peace upon earth - John Quincy Adams
Treachery and violence are taught as principles of Mohamet's religion - John Quincy Adams
The sword of extermination is instinct with the spirit of the Koran - John Quincy Adams
(Muhammad's) doctrine was violence and lust: to exalt the brutal over the spiritual - John Quincy Adams
The shores of tripoli
Jews, Arabs, Nobel Prize
The Global Islamic population is approximately 2,000,000,000 or 33% of
the worlds population. They have received the following Nobel Prizes:
1988 - Najib Mahfooz
1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat
1994 - Yaser Arafat:
1990 - Elias James Corey
1999 - Ahmed Zewai
1960 - Peter Brian Medawar
1998 - Ferid Mourad
The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000, or about 0.02% of the worlds population.
They have received the following Nobel Prizes:
1910 - Paul Heyse
1927 - Henri Bergson
1958 - Boris Pa sternak
1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
1966 - Nelly Sachs
1976 - Saul Bellow
1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
1981 - Elias Canetti
1987 - Joseph Brodsky
1991 - Nadine Gordimer World
1911 - Alfred Fried
1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
1968 - Rene Cassin
1973 - Henry Kissinger
1978 - Menachem Begin
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1994 - Shimon Peres
1994 - Yitzhak Rabin
1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
1906 - Henri Moissan
1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
1910 - Otto Wallach
1915 - Richard Willstaetter
1918 - Fritz Haber
1921 - Albert Einstein
1922 - Niels Bohr
1925 - James Franck
1925 - Gustav Hertz
1943 - Gustav Stern
1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
1952 - Felix Bloch
1954 - Max Born
1958 - Igor Tamm
1959 - Emilio Segre
1960 - Donald A. Glaser
1961 - Robert Hofstadter
1961 - Melvin Calvin
1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
1965 - Richard Phil lips Feynman
1965 - Julian Schwinger
1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
1971 - Dennis Gabor
1972 - William Howard Stein
1973 - Brian David Joseph son
1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
1976 - Burton Richter
1977 - Ilya Prigogine
1978 - Arno Allan Penzias
1978 - Peter L Kapitza
1979 - Stephen Weinberg
1979 - Sheldon Glashow
1979 - Herbert Charles Brown
1980 - Paul Berg
1980 - Walter Gilbert
1981 - Roald Hoffmann
1982 - Aaron Klug
1985 - Albert A. Hauptman
1985 - Jerome Karle
1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach
1988 - Robert Huber
1988 - Leon Lederman
1988 - Melvin Schwartz
1988 - Jack Steinberger
1989 - Sidney Altman
1990 - Jerome Friedman
1992 - Rudolph Marcus
1995 - Martin Perl
2000 - Alan J. Heeger
1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
1971 - Simon Kuznets
1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow
1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
1976 - Mil ton Friedman
1978 - Herb ert A. Simon
1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
1985 - Franco Modigliani
1987 - Robert M. Solow
1990 - Harry Markowitz
1 990 - Merton Miller
199220- Gary Becker
1993 - Robert Fogel
1908 - Elie Metchnikoff
1908 - Paul Erlich
1914 - Robert Barany
1922 - Otto Meyerhof
1930 - Karl Landsteiner
1931 - Otto Warburg
1936 - Otto Loewi
1944 - Joseph Erlanger
1944 - Herb ert Spencer Gasser
1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
1952 - Selman Abra ham Waksman
1953 - Hans Krebs
1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann
1958 - Joshua Lederberg
1959 - Arthur Kornberg
1964 - Konrad Bloch
1965 - Francois Jacob
1965 - Andre Lwoff
1967 - George Wald
1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg
1969 - Salvador Luria
1970 - Julius Axelrod
1970 - Sir Bernard Katz
1972 - Gerald Maurice Ed elman
1975 - Howard Martin Temin
1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg
1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow
1978 - Daniel Nathans
1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
1984 - Cesar Milstein
1985 - Michael Stuart Brown
1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein
1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini]
1988 - Gertrude Elion
1989 - Harold Varmus
1991 - Erwin Neher
1991 - Bert Sakmann
1993 - Richard J. Roberts
1993 - Phillip Sharp
1994 - Alfred Gilman
1995 - Ed ward B. Lewis
The Jews are NOT promoting brain washing children in military training
camps, teaching them how to blow themselves up and cause maximum deaths
of Jews and other non Muslims!
The Jews dont hijack planes, nor kill athletes at the Olympics, or blow
themselves up in German restaurants. There is NOT one single Jew that
has destroyed a church. There is NOT a single Jew that protests by
The Jews dont traffic slaves, nor have leaders calling for Jihad and
death to all the Infidels.
Perhaps the worlds Muslims should consider investing more in standard
education and less in blaming the Jews for all their problems.
Muslims must ask what can they do for humankind before they demand
that humankind respects them!!
Regardless of your feelings about the crisis between Israel and the
Palestinians and Arab neighbors, even if you believe there is more
culpability on Israel s part, the following two sentences really say it
If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more
violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel -Benjamin Netanyahu
‘halls of Montezuma’ refers to the war with Mexico
You missed one: Muslims invented the number ZERO, B.Hussein’s IQ.
In Gaza, Eid al-Fitr has become Heid yu-Fukr.
It is now
Who is the woman with the rifle in the pic with the U S flag? Anybody we know or what?
Now you have gone and insulted turds! Turds have been known to help plants to grow large and strong, turds deserve more respect than you have shown!
Yes, that’s why I corrected my post 33 in the very post you linked to.
He may indeed try, but I think everybody has pretty much had enough of Obama and his wife.
Now just a cotton pickin’ minit here. Let’s be fair. What about El Said Nosair, who killed a troublemaking Jooo! rabbi, and along with the blessed “blind Sheikh” helped conspire to blow up the WTC and the whole infidel city of New York in 1993? What about Ibrahim elLinkoun, who beat the infidel southerners into submission, forcing them to pay their jiziyeh and give him all their slaves? What about Professor Edward Said, who magically transformed himself into a Palestinian, confounding the Jooos! and the infidel Jorj Boosh? What about Toomeis ElJeffersooni, who forced his 14-year-old slave girl to have his baby? What about Benyaamin Elfranklin, who flew a kite in the rain in order to carry on Jihaad?
God Bless the contributions of the USMC to fight Muslim Terror!
If anybody can find a Muslim Country that is founded and ruled well, send me a post!
That is why I have a problem with Obama saying that we are a democracy.