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Mika: Stephen A. Smith Made 'Absolutely Valid Point' About Domestic Violence
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 07/30/2014 6:52:56 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

There are days when Mika Brzezinski will surprise you. Take Morning Joe today, and Brzezinski's comments on the news that ESPN had suspended Stephen A. Smith for a week for his comments about women "provoking" domestic violence.

Said Mika: "I think it's too bad we can't have a conversation without people exploding, because I think he was trying to make a point. It might have been inartful but there was a point to what he was saying that is absolutely valid and has value." Surprising, no?

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cnn; domesticviolence; espn; joescarborough; meetthepress; mikabrzezinski; morningjoe; msnbc; nbc; stephenasmith

1 posted on 07/30/2014 6:52:56 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: netmilsmom; Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; Diogenesis; MEG33; PGalt; ...

Mika makes surprisingly supportive statement about Stephen A. Smith. Ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 07/30/2014 6:53:39 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (FReepmail or ping me to be put on my ping list for criticism of liberal media)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Ralph Cramden ?

To the Moon, Alice...to the moon.


3 posted on 07/30/2014 6:54:32 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Not to change the subject but can someone tell me where Joe Scarborough has been for the last, oh, 365 days? How does he pull down a huge salary while never showing up to work? Several years ago, Representative Peter King called him out on his shoddy work habits but nothing ever changes. And how do I get a job like this?


4 posted on 07/30/2014 6:57:43 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

It may be a valid point, but its definitely among the forbidden valid points.


5 posted on 07/30/2014 6:58:52 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
The only segment I saw this morning was her conniption fit over tanning beds. She is such a twit.

I can't believe that NBC is seriously considering her and Joe to team up on Meet the Press.

If we've learned anything from watching Morning Joe, neither Joe nor Mika have the intellectual heft to carry a show by themselves.

Contrast that to the successful shows such as Rush & Levin, who rarely have guests on their shows.

6 posted on 07/30/2014 7:02:57 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Dude!

Like if a "Beastie" wants to throw down, ya gotta protect yourself man, they'll hurt ya!

7 posted on 07/30/2014 7:08:05 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I still haven't heard the 'valid point' behind "let’s make sure we don’t do anything to provoke wrong actions."
8 posted on 07/30/2014 7:08:40 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Is Stephen whatever the gay Ken doll on the show? Phew, you put the IQs of that crowd together and you come up with about 50.


9 posted on 07/30/2014 7:14:57 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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10 posted on 07/30/2014 7:23:16 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"I don't agree with hitting women but I understand it. I know what turns Mr. Hand into Mr. Fist"

- Sam Kinison

11 posted on 07/30/2014 7:27:19 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: ConservingFreedom
I am a woman. I think Mr. Smith was saying it takes two to tango. He was not gender specific. In the heat of a battle people push buttons that they know can lead to a nuclear explosion by the other person.

I don't feel from what he said that anyone, let a lone a woman should be subservient. But what he was saying is there is a way to avoid lighting the fuse.

Taking into account that Mr. Smith is black and that the black family is largely Matriarchal in nature. Black men are most often disrespected by black women. Women actually have power in these situations. Every situation is different.

I don't think men ever should lay their hands on a woman and I don't Mr. Smith thinks they should either. BUT, you keep in a man face enough he may snap.

12 posted on 07/30/2014 7:33:29 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: defconw

The right to swing your fist ends at the other person’s nose.

The attempt to rewrite the narrative of wife-beating is driven by the demographics of high-profile abuse cases and the support for wife beating in Islam. Throw in higher number of abuse cases in same-sex relationships and the narrative is required to be rewritten.


13 posted on 07/30/2014 7:40:46 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy
I don't disagree, but we are not talking about Muslims. We are talking about women inspired by these feminist loving dyke's that have been teaching and screeching for 40 years. Women in this country are not the peaceful little defenseless doves they used to be.

Apparently you don't know to many black women. But you can about imagine Moochelle going off on Obama. Not that she would deserve to be hit, not at all. But ladies need to keep their hands to themselves and walk away just as men should.

14 posted on 07/30/2014 7:52:36 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I was astonished. Whoopie Goldberg sided with him too, and even went farther than he did...

Her take was basically that women have decided they want to live in gender equal world where "chivalry is dead" then they shouldn't get upset when they hit a man and get punched right back. She went on to say they she had absolutely no problem with a man punching a women that hits him first. Then one of the (rather astonished) cohosts muttered something about a 5 foot women and a 6' 5" man hardly being a fair fight. To which Whoopie responded, "Well maybe the 5 foot women should think of that before she gets up in the 6' 5" man's face!"

15 posted on 07/30/2014 8:11:07 AM PDT by apillar
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To: defconw

If a woman threw the first punch, she is charged with domestic violence.


16 posted on 07/30/2014 8:15:36 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Dr.Deth

I dated a girl who said her x hit her. After a few weeks I understood why. I bailed on that relationship damn quick.


17 posted on 07/30/2014 8:33:29 AM PDT by enraged
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To: AppyPappy

Theoretically, that is what happens.


18 posted on 07/30/2014 8:35:25 AM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Surprising, no? View the video here.

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No, thanks. Why is it those on our side get positively giddy every time one of the demonazicrats manages to actually say something right?


19 posted on 07/30/2014 8:37:11 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: enraged
I dated a girl who said her x hit her. After a few weeks I understood why. I bailed on that relationship damn quick.

Some women just insist on pushing things to the edge.

Others just insist on being in a relationship with someone they know is a violent thug.

20 posted on 07/30/2014 8:41:30 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: apillar
Then one of the (rather astonished) cohosts muttered something about a 5 foot women and a 6' 5" man hardly being a fair fight. To which Whoopie responded, "Well maybe the 5 foot women should think of that before she gets up in the 6' 5" man's face!"

If a small man started a fight with a big man, and lost, many would say "well, what did he EXPECT would happen?"

21 posted on 07/30/2014 8:43:55 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Men have to take the following steps, when attacked by a woman:

1) Get your hands up. Your forearms are going to take some hits and scratches. Block aggressively. Most women swing wide, so their forearms will connect with yours. It hurts.
2) Move your head. A crazy woman isn’t going to try to land a body shot, she’s aiming head and groin.
3) Check kicks with your knees, and keep circling. It’s harder to kick somebody in the groin than it looks on television, and landing her shin on your knee can take the starch out of her in a hurry.
4) Hope she isn’t in very good shape, and punches herself out quickly.
5) Leave as soon as possible, but do not turn your back.
6) Document the incident as best you can.
7) Be ready to take a day or two off from work, and gather bail money. See #8.
8) Consult an attorney. You are probably going to spend a night in jail. Ironically, it probably doesn’t matter if you punch her back or not.
9) Tell every single person that both of you know that she’s a psycho. Social shame needs to make a comeback.
10) Never be alone with her again, EVER. No matter what (with the possible exception of baiting her into it again, for the purpose of recording it, but that’s awfully dangerous).

Please note that nothing I have said suggests in any way that there are not lots of men who abuse women. If you think that is stated or implied in this post, you are an idiot, because it’s not there. If you are still stuck in some pre-feminist ideal of gentlemen and ladies, well, I share your wishful thinking, but that’s not reality. We’ve come a long way, baby.


22 posted on 07/30/2014 8:48:01 AM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: ConservingFreedom

Here are a couple illustrations of the valid point:
1) poke the friendliest dog in the world with a stick enough times and he will bite you.
2) Women are not always right and men are not always wrong.
3) Psychological abuse and physical abuse are both abusive.
4) Psychologically abusive women can be the aggressor in a confrontation and both parties can get hurt.
5) Read #5 again.


23 posted on 07/30/2014 9:02:14 AM PDT by thejokker
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To: thejokker

2) Women are not always right and men are not always wrong.

I watch enough television commercials to know that women are always right, and men are drooling retards.


24 posted on 07/30/2014 9:14:07 AM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: thejokker
"Both abusive", "can get hurt" - obfuscations for what we're talking about. My wife has said some deeply hurtful things to me over the years, but I've never hit her and never will ... but then, I hold myself to higher standards than a dog.
25 posted on 07/30/2014 9:17:24 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

I doubt your wife made it a point to attack you relentlessly day in and day out like some women. You cannot judge all women by how your wife acts.

I have never hit a woman in my life but I have witnessed many who deserved it...


26 posted on 07/30/2014 9:34:08 AM PDT by thejokker
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To: thejokker
I have never hit a woman in my life but I have witnessed many who deserved it...

As noted in post #17, if they deserve to be hit, don't - leave 'em instead.

27 posted on 07/30/2014 9:40:59 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

While I think he was leaning towards a valid point, he didn’t really make it. He wound up being way to vague and let his words be too open to an interpretation that blames the abused.


28 posted on 07/30/2014 9:45:09 AM PDT by discostu (Villains always blink their eyes.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

This is a Trojan horse issue. On the surface it seems like an issue that cannot be argued with: Women should never be hit. In reality acceptance by the majority empowers radical feminists: women are always victimized by evil men. By denying there are sometimes two sides to the issue you are contributing to the emasculation of America.

Both men and women must be held accountable for their actions. Men should not hit women AND woman should not provoke men.


29 posted on 07/30/2014 10:02:11 AM PDT by thejokker
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To: thejokker
if they deserve to be hit, don't - leave 'em instead.

By denying there are sometimes two sides to the issue you

Who denied that?

30 posted on 07/30/2014 10:09:30 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

If you are not denying my point than why are you arguing with me?


31 posted on 07/30/2014 10:14:43 AM PDT by thejokker
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To: thejokker
I thought we were having a discussion.
32 posted on 07/30/2014 10:17:32 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Ouderkirk
Ralph Cramden ? To the Moon, Alice...to the moon.


33 posted on 07/30/2014 10:20:22 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: enraged

My sister is a complete nut and I got in a fist fight with her when I was 11 and she was 19. She would pick, pick, pick at people until they explode. Her husband of many years finally had enough one day and decked her when she slapped him. Broke her jaw. I had seen her picking at him earlier in the day and was subpoenaed to testify. I ended ip admitting I would have decked her, too. He got some sort of lesser offense and no jail .


34 posted on 07/30/2014 10:28:04 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Did you miss the segment when she said "Keep it right here on Morning Jew" and quickly corrected herself? Click here for video.
35 posted on 07/30/2014 5:49:18 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

She’s learned this from listening to every man who’s ever broken up with her.


36 posted on 08/02/2014 11:41:31 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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