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Vulnerable Dems balk at Obama executive actions on immigration
thehill.com ^ | 7/30/14 | Alexander Bolton

Posted on 07/30/2014 7:55:20 AM PDT by cotton1706

Democratic senators facing tough reelections want to put the brakes on President Obama’s plan to reform the nation’s immigration enforcement system through executive action.

Two of the Senate’s most vulnerable incumbents, Sens. Mark Pryor (D-Ark.) and Kay Hagan (D-N.C.), say Obama should not act unilaterally to reduce deportations, arguing it’s Congress’s job to change the law.

While the Democratic-led Senate has passed a bipartisan bill, the Republican-controlled House will not. That poses a dilemma for Obama. Slowing or halting deportations of otherwise law-abiding residents who came to the country illegally could produce a backlash in red states where Obama has low approval numbers. Furthermore, the crisis at the southern U.S. border complicates any move to ease deportation laws.

But not taking executive action could discourage Latino voters, who backed Obama and other Democratic candidates overwhelmingly in the 2012 elections and expect action on immigration reform.

Many of those voters are upset by the relatively high rate of deportation during Obama’s second term. Earlier this year, Rep. Luis Gutiérrez (D-Ill.) and Janet Murguía, the president of the National Council of La Raza, dubbed Obama the “deporter-in-chief.”

While Latino voters will be crucial to Democrats’ winning the White House in 2016, they are not nearly as much of a factor in this year’s Senate battlegrounds. Except for Colorado, where Hispanics make up more than 20 percent of the population, Latino voters make up a small percentage of states’ electorates.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; elections
Senate democrats want short-term victories, i.e. their own.

Obama wants long-term victory.

We'll see.

1 posted on 07/30/2014 7:55:20 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

Even long-term democrat politicians are beginning to realize the voters are less and less fooled by their socialist nonsense. They face heavy defeats in November even if they change their tune at this late date.


2 posted on 07/30/2014 7:59:36 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama stands for the corruption of America in all aspects.)
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To: cotton1706

To paraphrase Obama’s comment to Putin, after the mid-terms these dems will have more flexibility on the issue.


3 posted on 07/30/2014 8:01:33 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Hey Obama! Wake up and piss! The World's on FIRE!)
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To: cotton1706

People living in the bubble shouldn’t rule or make decisions for those living outside the bubble. If the senators want to know what’s really going on they need to go down to the border without an entourage that has been assigned to steer them away from the bad elements. They need to talk to the BP, the DPS, and ride with them to see what is really going on. Then they need to gather the financial info to see how much this is really costing the taxpayer and the politics involved and long term effects of the invasion. I’ve already seen the tip of the financials and the cost is astronomical. This is pure Cloward - Piven bankrupting of the nation. Illegals receive far better treatment than the citizens who pay high taxes. We are merely a used afterthought of no value because our skin is not brown.


4 posted on 07/30/2014 8:02:13 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: cotton1706; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...
Ping!

Click the keyword Aliens to see more illegal alien, border security, and other related threads.

It's Congress' job to change the law? Really? Well, whadda'ya know...

5 posted on 07/30/2014 8:04:25 AM PDT by HiJinx (People were created to be Loved; Things were created to be Used.)
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To: cotton1706

Let’s hope that the GOP is not so stupid as to TAKE OFF THE PRESSURE on these vulnerable Dems by offering up a GOP-sponsored immigrant-amnesty bill.

Send a note to Rep Granger!

“You can’t “fix” immigration by repealing our BORDERS!”


6 posted on 07/30/2014 8:05:39 AM PDT by pfony1 (Add just 6 GOP Senators and we "bury" Harry)
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To: cotton1706

Want to earn fast money $7K per child. HOUSE a ILLEGAL contagious kids. You only have to worry about the diseases or gang banging.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/07/29/Collect-More-Than-7-2-k-Per-Month-for-Fostering-Adult-Illegal-Aliens


7 posted on 07/30/2014 8:05:52 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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8 posted on 07/30/2014 8:06:23 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: cotton1706

In the Democrat playbook this loss in November would be the same as a football team punting on fourth and long.

They’d gladly exchange a few years in the minority for the long-term prospect of turning Texas blue and Florida a deep shade of blue.


9 posted on 07/30/2014 8:08:21 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: cotton1706
the deporter in chiefs about to step in it...




10 posted on 07/30/2014 8:09:38 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: cotton1706

Subject: John Legal vs. Juan Illegal

You have two families: “John Legal” and “Juan Illegal”. Both families have two parents, two children, and live in Arizona ..

John Legal works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.

Juan Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 in cash “under the table”.

Ready? Now pay attention....

John Legal: $25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00 per year. Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; John Legal now has $31,231.00.

Juan Illegal: $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week, or $31,200 per year. Juan Illegal pays no taxes. Juan Illegal now has $31,200.00.

Ready? Now pay attention....

John Legal: $25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00 per year. Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; John Legal now has $31,231.00.

Juan Illegal: $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week, or $31,200 per year. Juan Illegal pays no taxes. Juan Illegal now has $31,200.00.

John Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. John Legal now has $24,031.00.

Juan Illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the state and local clinics and emergency hospitals at a cost of $0.00 per year. Juan Illegal still has $31,200.00.

John Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or welfare. John Legal pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000..00 per year. John Legal now has $18,031.00.

Juan Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps, WIC and welfare. Juan Illegal still has $31,200.00.

John Legal pays rent of $1,200.00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year. John Legal now has 9,631.00.

Juan Illegal receives a $500.00 per month Federal Rent Subsidy. Juan Illegal pays out that $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00 per year. Juan Illegal still has $ 31,200.00.

John Legal pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for car insurance. Some of that is uninsured motorist insurance. John Legal now has $7,231.00.

Juan Illegal says, “We don’t need no stinkin’ insurance!” and still has $31,200.00.

John Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc..

Juan Illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, and what he sends out of the country every month..

John Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.

Juan Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.

John Legal’s and Juan Illegal’s children both attend the same elementary school. John Legal pays for his children’s lunches, while Juan Illegal’s children get a government sponsored lunch. Juan Illegal’s children have an after school ESL program. John Legal’s children go home.

Now, when they reach college age, John Legal’s kids may not get into a State School and may not qualify for scholarships, grants or other tuition help, even though John has been paying for state schools through his taxes, while Juan Illegal’s kids “go to the head of the class” because they are a minority.

John Legal and Juan Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire services, but John paid for them and Juan did not pay.

If you vote for or support any politician that supports illegal aliens... You are part of the problem!


11 posted on 07/30/2014 8:11:50 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: combat_boots

Good breakdown of real costs.


12 posted on 07/30/2014 8:15:53 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: cotton1706

Deporter in chief. Give me a frickin’ break. As with everything coming out of this office it is redefining a term. All that changed was refusing entry in to the country is now considered deportation by the Obamatons.

And Obama doesn’t care about vulnerable Dems. Why should he. Both party leadership has already declared surrender in ANY action to slow, stop, or punish Obama’s illegal actions. Obama know he’ll do what he wants when he wants regardless.


13 posted on 07/30/2014 8:18:22 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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WE LOVE YOU WHEN YOU DO WHAT WE WANT---WE HATE YOU WHEN YOU DONT Rep. Luis Gutiérrez (Dim-Ill.) and Janet Murguía, the president and CEO of La Raza, dubbed Obama the “deporter-in-chief.”

Nevertheless, Obama's lips are firmly pressed onto La Raza behinds.....part and parcel of the Hate-America Fiesta that is advocating the overthrow of the US government. Read on.

La Raza President and CEO Janet Murguia, at La Raza's annual conference in LA, said it sickened her to hear Americans chanting. She accused Murietta protesters of having "cloaked their hatred in patriotism" by shouting "'USA! USA!' again and again." "It made me angry," she said. "In fact, I was outraged."

Murguia demanded amnesty and said the road to the White House for Republicans goes through the Latino community and La Raza. She also said Republicans who want to rescind the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program will not get Hispanic votes.

She repeatedly excoriated patriotic protesters. "What we saw in Murrieta is not patriotism. It is ugly, divisive, and yet another low in a debate I thought could not get much lower." Murguia did not say comment on "Viva La Raza!" chants from pro-amnesty advocates

A Pew Research report found that nearly 90% of those swarming the border are teenagers---not "little kids," as Murguia claimed. She said it was "reprehensible" for Republicans to be "concerned" about disease and crime the "little kids" may be bringing across the border.

Rep Guttieerez also addressed the La Razans....in his colorful Spanglish dialect (/snix)

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The La Raza types are getting more assertive---now that they live in a place w/ running water and flush toilets. The stupids fail to realize---this is not some Third World hellhole where people crap in a hole in the ground.

America is is a thriving Republic of free people who have the right to free speech, freedoms given us based ona two-party system. La Raza's drumming up hatred for Republicans is tantamount to advocating the overthrow of the US govt.....and she's doing it on the taxpayers' dime.

No question blood-thirsty La Raza is using our tax dollars to aid and abet the criminal contagion-invasion and the SW takeover.

INCONVENIENT FACTOIDS:

<><> La Raza----a violent organization planning to overthrow the US govt----would pocket $100 million tax dollars per year ad infinitum from the Senate amnesty bill.

<><> La Raza also received suck-up Democrat earmarks from US tax coffers.

<><> La Raza received US tax monies to engage in (cough) "mortgage counseling" facilitated by La Raza's comrade in arms---the Congressional Hispanic Caucus.

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Americans are stuck w/ the most racist and divisive President in US history. No other president has appointed individuals apparently colluding with foreign countries try to undermine the safety and security of US citizens.

Obummer appointed Celia Munoz to the "Domestic Policy Council".....Munoz was a onetime lobbyist for the blood-thirsty La Raza. "La Raza" proclaims itself a racist and anti-American organization. It's core goal is to overwhelm the American Southwest with illegals ---pressure groups who will vote in their mouthpiece----and cause the region to break away from the US and become Mexican territory.

One Murietta counter-protester carried a sign proclaiming, "You are on stolen land".....right out of the armed takeover of the SW handbook.

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Just a friendly message to Murguia and Guttierez---best be careful who you step on, on the way up---b/c you are going to meet them on the way down.

14 posted on 07/30/2014 8:20:49 AM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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Comments on the C-span hearing rebroadcast of yesterday's House hearing on border immigration.

Obama appointee, UCIS head, Leon Gonzales was interviewed. Totally biased---said his second language was Spanish----and that he once belonged to Casa Manana (or something), that was advocating for unlimited immigration.

The lock-stepping Gonzalez gets grade A for Evasion and for loyally following orders from the Commandant in the WH.

When Democrats questioned him, he knew everything and responded in great detail. But to Republicans he whined about being new to the jobs---and parroted "gotta get back to you on that."

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Repub Cong/men Jason Chaffetz, Louis Gohmert and Randy Forbes were standout patriots, protecting Americans from the invading hordes at the border.

Cong Gohmert stopped the show with his probing judicial-like queries---the former judge's brilliant circumlocution, and his prodigious knowledge of the law was awesome---as well as his ability to nail Gonzalez to the wall.

WRT drug cartels paid $6000 to "guide" the hordes over the birder---"Would you call them criminals?," he asked Gonzales. Making the point that if the hordes were coming here to escape drug cartels, why is it they pay the violent breed to get over the border?

Gonzales made a show of his legal bgrnd---but he paled agaimst Goehmert's expertise. Gonzales, as a former prosecutor and officer of the court, should know that the US justice system is not amenable to dispensing justice to litigants w/ "unclean hands"---a legal term meaning those who have committed crimes. His license to practice law should be pulled.

Sad to see Cong Jason Chaffetz's resignation, knowing we'd get nowhere with the lock-stepping Gonsalez----prostrate in obeisance to Obama---his lips pressed firmly to the WH behind.

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Cong Guttierez (Dim-Ill) made a lamebrain appearance--- this imbecile had to have used voter fraud to get into office---no one in their right mind would vote for the Spanglish-speaking moron.

We need to find out (1) how many identities he's using, (2) how many govt checks he, his family, and his staff are cashing, and, (3) Guttierez's membership in violent organizations advocating the overthrow of the US govt.

15 posted on 07/30/2014 8:21:36 AM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: Rapscallion

America is starting to wake up. All those “kids” showing up at our border, and, Obama shipping them to various States for the States to cover cost of housing, feeding, and providing Medical care, is causing many Americans, who once supported Amnesty, to say: “What the hell? Hold on here!”


16 posted on 07/30/2014 8:24:17 AM PDT by Din Maker (I've always been crazy, but, that's the only thing that has kept me from going insane.)
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To: combat_boots

Wow, that is excellent. You need to submit that for publication in some “national” Conservative outlet.


17 posted on 07/30/2014 8:29:06 AM PDT by Din Maker (I've always been crazy, but, that's the only thing that has kept me from going insane.)
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To: cotton1706

They want their little tin god to do it AFTER the election.


18 posted on 07/30/2014 8:29:47 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: cotton1706

Obama sees his 15 minutes coming to an end


19 posted on 07/30/2014 8:31:07 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I called Ms. Hagan’s congressional office yesterday and gave them a little bit of my mind regarding immigration, suppoer of Israel, Planned Parenthood and Obamacare . I’d like to think that many of NC residents are doing the same.


20 posted on 07/30/2014 8:33:51 AM PDT by Free America52 (The White guys are getting pissed off. We beat Hitler Hirohito and Krushchev. Obama will be easy.)
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To: combat_boots
Can't be posted often enough.

Your figures are merely typical, not extreme.

In some cases, Juan Illegal gets rent vouchers for up to $2400 per month to live in the most posh neighborhoods in town because they need "diversity."

21 posted on 07/30/2014 8:33:59 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: cotton1706

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- Obama is painting blacks in America with dog crap for the next 200 years -

- Every Chicago, LA, Detroit, murder by an MS12 gang bastard must be headlined here on Free Republic -

- The Obama family must be hounded into the California surf at their $5M gated mansion near algore’s little beachfront dump

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22 posted on 07/30/2014 8:53:09 AM PDT by devolve (-Tell VLADIMER after my ERECTION I have more 90% more FLEXIBILITY - pre-1899 Colt SAA frames needed)
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To: cotton1706

Rats abandoning the ship....hope they drown!!!


23 posted on 07/30/2014 8:57:25 AM PDT by ontap
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To: Vigilanteman

John Legal is too tired to barely BBQ after all the work and lawfulness, John Illegal has unlimited stripper/girlfriend money while his ‘wife’ drives her kids and sister around all day in the 2012 black Escalade getting pedicures, shopping with EBTs, selling the steaks and seafood to restaurants.


24 posted on 07/30/2014 8:58:24 AM PDT by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: combat_boots

BMK

Thanks for that post - it really spells it out.


25 posted on 07/30/2014 8:59:31 AM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops)
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To: cotton1706
U.S. Constitution, Article IV, Section 4:

The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government,

and shall protect each of them against invasion


26 posted on 07/30/2014 8:59:39 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: cotton1706; All
While Latino voters will be crucial to Democrats’ winning the White House in 2016, they are not nearly as much of a factor in this year’s Senate battlegrounds. Except for Colorado, where Hispanics make up more than 20 percent of the population.....

Has anyone but me, been wondering if Mexicans, who are here legally or illegally, are pi**ed off at the "special treatment" the Obama administration is giving to Central Americans who are here illegally? They get special treatment with re: to deportation, etc. I've not seen anything addressing this possibility. One would think that Pro-Amnesty Mexicans, and their Latino Leaders, would be outraged.
27 posted on 07/30/2014 9:07:39 AM PDT by Din Maker (I've always been crazy, but, that's the only thing that has kept me from going insane.)
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To: combat_boots
$500.00 per month for food,

That would buy about 35 pounds of Ribeye steak or about a 100 lbs of hamburger.

I remember when Ladybird Johnson suggested we should eat cheese when beef was going up in price. Problem was cheese was more expensive than beef.

28 posted on 07/30/2014 9:32:07 AM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: Liz
La Raza's drumming up hatred for Republicans is tantamount to advocating the overthrow of the US govt.....and she's doing it on the taxpayers' dime.

Too many words in that paragraph.

29 posted on 07/30/2014 9:42:51 AM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: combat_boots

From elsewhere:

LET ME SEE IF I GOT THIS RIGHT

If you cross the North Korean border illegally you get 12 years hard labor.

If you cross the Iranian border illegally you are detained indefinitely.

If you cross the Afghan border illegally, you get shot.

If you cross the Saudi Arabian border illegally you will be jailed.

If you cross the Chinese border illegally you may never be heard from again.

If you cross the Venezuelan border illegally you will be branded a spy and your fate will be sealed.

If you cross the Cuban border illegally you will be thrown into political prison to rot.

If you cross the U.S. border illegally you get
1 - a job,
2 - a drivers license (see 12),
3 - social security card,
4 - welfare,
5 - food stamps,
6 - credit cards,
7 - subsidized rent or a loan to buy a house,
8 - free education,
9 - free health care,
10 - a lobbyist in Washington who will plead your case to sympathetic ears
11 - billions of dollars worth of public documents printed in your language
12 - The right to vote for those who give you these things
13 - The right to carry your country’s flag while you protest that you don’t get enough respect and demand that people listen to you

OK, I just wanted to make sure I had a firm understanding on the situation.


30 posted on 07/30/2014 1:18:36 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: itsahoot

I stand corrected-—your succinct version is on-target.


31 posted on 07/30/2014 2:33:58 PM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: cotton1706
Wanna cook Democrat goose? This needs to go viral:

Campaign Contributions Ensnare 2014 DEMOCRATS in IRS’s Missing Emails Scandal
Colorado Observer. ^ | June 19, 2014 | Audrey Hudson / FR Posted 6/21 by george76

...... conveniently missing among the IRS’s lost internal emails are communications with Sens. Mark Udall, Mark Begich, and a dozen other Democrats who received campaign contributions from the IRS union.

Democratic senators who took campaign donations from the IRS union include Sens. Mary Landrieu of Louisiana who received $25,500, Al Frankin of Minnesota, $5,000, and Mark Begich of Alaska.

(Excerpt) Read more at thecoloradoobserver.com ...

32 posted on 07/30/2014 2:38:54 PM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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33 posted on 07/30/2014 2:42:20 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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