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Where Does the Carbon Dioxide Really Come From?
CDA PRESS ^ | July 2013 | IAN PLIMER

Posted on 07/30/2014 8:08:59 AM PDT by Dick Bachert

Ian Rutherford Plimeris an Australian geologist, professor emeritus of earth sciences at the University of Melbourne, professor of mining geology at the University of Adelaide, and the director of multiple mineral exploration and mining companies. He has published 130 scientific papers, six books and edited the Encyclopedia of Geology.

Born 12 February 1946 (age 67) Residence Australia Nationality Australian Fields Earth Science, Geology, Mining Engineering Institutions University of New England,University of Newcastle,University of Melbourne,University of Adelaide Alma mater University of New South Wales,Macquarie University Thesis The pipe deposits of tungsten-molybdenum-bismuth in eastern Australia (1976) Notable awards Eureka Prize (1995, 2002),Centenary Medal (2003), Clarke Medal (2004)

Where Does the Carbon Dioxide Really Come From? Professor Ian Plimeris could not have said it better!

PLIMER: "Okay, here's the bombshell. The volcanic eruption in Iceland . Since its first spewing of volcanic ash has, in just FOUR DAYS, NEGATED EVERY SINGLE EFFORT you have made in the past five years to control CO2 emissions on our planet - all of you.

Of course, you know about this evil carbon dioxide that we are trying to suppress - it’s that vital chemical compound that every plant requires to live and grow and to synthesize into oxygen for us humans and all animal life. I know....it's very disheartening to realize that all of the carbon emission savings you have accomplished while suffering the inconvenience and expense of driving Prius hybrids, buying fabric grocery bags, sitting up till midnight to finish your kids "The Green Revolution" science project, throwing out all of your non-green cleaning supplies, using only two squares of toilet paper, putting a brick in your toilet tank reservoir, selling your SUV and speedboat, vacationing at home instead of abroad, nearly getting hit every day on your bicycle, replacing all of your 50 cent light bulbs with $10.00 light bulbs.....well, all of those things you have done have all gone down the tubes in just four days.

The volcanic ash emitted into the Earth's atmosphere in just four days - yes, FOUR DAYS - by that volcano in Iceland has totally erased every single effort you have made to reduce the evil beast, carbon. And there are around 200 active volcanoes on the planet spewing out this crud at any one time - EVERY DAY.

I don't really want to rain on your parade too much, but I should mention that when the volcano Mt Pinatubo erupted in the Philippines in 1991, it spewed out more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than the entire human race had emitted in all its years on earth.

Yes, folks, Mt Pinatubo was active for over One year - think about it.

Of course, I shouldn't spoil this 'touchy-feely tree-hugging' moment and mention the effect of solar and cosmic activity and the well-recognized 800-year global heating and cooling cycle, which keeps happening despite our completely insignificant efforts to affect climate change. And I do wish I had a silver lining to this volcanic ash cloud, but the fact of the matter is that the bush fire season across the western USA and Australia this year alone will negate your efforts to reduce carbon in our world for the next two to three years. And it happens every year.

Just remember that your government just tried to impose a whopping carbon tax on you, on the basis of the bogus 'human-caused' climate-change scenario. Hey, isn’t it interesting how they don’t mention 'Global Warming' Anymore, but just 'Climate Change' - you know why? It’s because the planet has COOLED by 0.7 degrees in the past century and these global warming bull artists got caught with their pants down.

And, just keep in mind that you might yet have an Emissions Trading Scheme - that whopping new tax - imposed on you that will achieve absolutely nothing except make you poorer.

It won’t stop any volcanoes from erupting, that’s for sure. But, hey, relax......give the world a hug and have a nice day!


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalwarming
I've been saying THIS for over 10 years. Sad that so few listen or seem to care. I guess the libtards slept through all those biology classes!! FACT: The entire Algore global warming madness is NOT about saving the planet. It's all about saving rescuing the left's failing plan to retain their power over the "great unwashed". If you're unsure who that is, glance into the nearest mirror!! This is very important stuff. PLEASE SHARE WIDELY!!!!
1 posted on 07/30/2014 8:08:59 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Dick Bachert

EPA document supports ~3% of atmospheric carbon dioxide is attributable to human sources

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/07/29/epa-document-supports-3-of-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide-is-attributable-to-human-sources/


2 posted on 07/30/2014 8:11:52 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Dick Bachert

aaaand what about them forest fires?
Greennuts preventing roads and breaks in forests to allow firefighting when fires just start.


3 posted on 07/30/2014 8:13:44 AM PDT by Leo Carpathian (FReeeeepeesssssed)
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To: Dick Bachert

All most all economic geologists, if not most geologists will say the same thing although a good number certainly accept climate change. For that matter, so do I. The geologic record is full of evidence for almost constant climate change both regionally and, less frequently, global. What does not have a consensus is the reasons underlying the change.


4 posted on 07/30/2014 8:17:28 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Dick Bachert
I'm not too sure about sharing this. Almost every source that I've looked up says that Prof. Plimeris’ findings are not accurate. They say that CO2 coming out of volcanoes is still less than from carbon in from “fossil” fuels.

On the other hand, most sources spew the lies on AGW worse than any volcanoes, so it's pretty hard to find actual Science against the man-made warming hoax.

None of this changes the fact that the Climate Change Hoax is a load of horse hockey intended to give governments more power and line the pockets of carbon credit profiteers like Algore and his ilk.

5 posted on 07/30/2014 8:18:37 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: JimSEA

Exactly. Algore’s minions will swear it’s AGW.

I’m convinced it’s the behavior of that flaming ball of gas — and I’m not talking about Dingy Harry Reid — in the sky!


6 posted on 07/30/2014 8:21:02 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: Dick Bachert

What is the reference for the excerpts attributed to Ian Plimer?


7 posted on 07/30/2014 8:22:50 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: PATRIOT1876

And the “scientists” beating the drum for AGW are the same guys who depend on those GOVERNMENT GRANTS to do their alleged “research”. Does anyone except an obozo voter REALLY think these guys are going to come down with “findings” refuting the government’s position???

And just when the hell could we trust the leftist print and digital media to dispense the truth on damn near anything that does not square with their agenda??


8 posted on 07/30/2014 8:26:09 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: PATRIOT1876

And the “scientists” beating the drum for AGW are the same guys who depend on those GOVERNMENT GRANTS to do their alleged “research”. Does anyone except an obozo voter REALLY think these guys are going to come down with “findings” refuting the government’s position???

And just when the hell could we trust the leftist print and digital media to dispense the truth on damn near anything that does not square with their agenda??


9 posted on 07/30/2014 8:27:01 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: Dick Bachert

Correcto mudo!

So true, and typical of how Enviros think and operate. Re climate change: In the last 250 million years there has been over 1,000 heating cooling cycles. A Cycle averages about 100,000 years, with the cooling being about 90,000 years, and warming about 10,000 years. We are 13,000 years into the current warming period. Three things cause those cycles:

1. Orbital Mechanics - Earth moving closer or further from sun -
2. Heating cooling cycles of the sun
3. Plate techtonics - the movement of the earths surface. This can cause massive volcanic acativity, change ocean currents etc.

BTW, CO2 is a very minor green house gas. Water vapor 500 times more casual.

Be afraid as we are overdue for the next ice age which will wipe out most life.

Ian has got it:


10 posted on 07/30/2014 8:28:30 AM PDT by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: Leo Carpathian

It’s all about the CHAOS these wackos can create - if billions were to die because they got their way on stopping all human development (especially in the 3rd world), they would celebrate. These truly are the Minions of Death.

Iceland isn’t the only place that had a huge volcanic belch into the atmosphere - there have been more than a hundred such eruptions in the last 20 years with more than 50 volcanoes that erupt every year. Hey, but don’t bother these nutcases with any facts.


11 posted on 07/30/2014 8:38:59 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Dick Bachert

We can argue over the data, but one thing is for certain, AGW or climate change or whatever it’s to be called was never the result of scientific inquiry. It has nothing to do with saving the planet.********************************

Prominent members of the Club of Rome include Al Gore and Maurice Strong, both of whom are intimately involved with privately-owned carbon trading groups like the Chicago Climate Exchange, whose multi-million dollar profits are solely reliant on protecting the credibility of the man-made global warming thesis from skeptics who have challenged its legitimacy in light of the Climategate scandal.

On page 75 of their 1990 publication entitled The First Global Revolution, the organization outlined how they would manufacture ecological scares in order to manipulate the public into accepting the imposition of a dictatorial world government run by them.

“In searching for a common enemy against whom we can unite, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill…. All these dangers are caused by human intervention… The real enemy, then, is humanity itself,” states the report.

The passage appears under a subheadline entitled, “The common enemy of humanity is Man.”

Paul Joseph Watson


12 posted on 07/30/2014 8:41:27 AM PDT by bereanway
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To: PATRIOT1876
I'm not too sure about sharing this. Almost every source that I've looked up says that Prof. Plimeris’ findings are not accurate. They say that CO2 coming out of volcanoes is still less than from carbon in from “fossil” fuels.

If you do the math yourself, you will see he is correct, or very close to it. You will also notice that man-made CO2 is only a very small fraction of the Carbon cycle. Also, note that even if the carbon cycle was as powerful a positive feedback loop as suggested by some. The Hydrologic cycle is an even stronger negative feedback loop and is what keeps the temperature ranges relatively stable, (and the earth habitable.) The other major cycles that govern temperature on earth is the solar cycle and the orbital cycle. These two cycles have the greatest impact on temperature and, for the time being, are completely out of mans control.

13 posted on 07/30/2014 8:43:42 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: Dick Bachert

Climate spin – more than just a game, it’s ‘Wheel of Gore’
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/07/28/climate-spin-more-than-just-a-game-its-wheel-of-gore/


14 posted on 07/30/2014 8:59:32 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: PATRIOT1876

It may be a function of just what is being measured. For instance, Yellowstone puts out huge amounts of CO2 but it is not erupting. There are sources of CO2 independent of volcanos as well. If you separate the natural sources from man made sources, it’s close. Also recall that the methane produced by cattle is marked up to human source (as if there weren’t herds of buffalo before cattle).


15 posted on 07/30/2014 9:01:58 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Dick Bachert
Look into Murry Salby, he's found that 1) the CO2 increase is FOLLOWING not leading warming, in the short term, not just the long term, and 2) increased atmospheric CO2 levels are not occurring down wind of major urban environments, it is occurring down wind of warm ocean waters. Basically, he's shown that not only is CO2 not responsible for recent warming, he's shown that it's nature and not human activity that's leading to increased atmospheric CO2!

Ok, so why do alarmists believe that increased CO2 levels are man made? There is a reason. There are multiple isotopes of Carbon. Volcanoes put out both 12C and 13C, but the increased CO2 is predominately 12C based. Plants much prefer 12C based CO2. Since the CO2 that is released when we burn oil is coming from fossilized plant life, it is 12C based CO2. So, that is why the alarmists claim that the increased CO2 in the atmosphere is coming from burning fossil fuels, and not volcanoes, because if it was simply coming from volcanoes, then the increased CO2 would be a combination of 12C and 13C based CO2, but it's not.

Salby discovered that the above scenario is false.

When volcanoes release CO2 (both 12C and 13C), the majority goes into 'sinks'. This CO2 absorbs in the oceans, and soil, and is consumed by plants, and many other natural 'sinks'.

What Salby was able to show is that warming leads to greater plant life - particularly ocean algae. With increased algea, more 12C CO2 is consumed by the algea, and more 13C CO2 goes to other natural 'sinks'. And what happens when you have more algae? You have more algae dying, and releasing their CO2.

Basically, he has shown that not all 'sinks' are equal. Some will hold onto their CO2 for a long time, and some will release it after a shorter period of time.

This explains how the increased proportion of 12C based CO2 over 13C based CO2 can be the result of a natural sink, and not an anthropological one. And since the increased 12C CO2 is occurring down wind of warming ocean waters, it's kind of clear what is causing it!
16 posted on 07/30/2014 9:10:54 AM PDT by MMaschin
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To: Dick Bachert

Uh... from one carbon atom combined with two oxygen atoms, perhaps?


17 posted on 07/30/2014 9:11:56 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Dick Bachert

“And just when the hell could we trust the leftist print and digital media to dispense the truth on damn near anything that does not square with their agenda??”

It could very well be that the truth on this topic has been “scrubbed” from the Internet as those who hate truth do from time to time.


18 posted on 07/30/2014 11:09:05 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: Dick Bachert

Earth From Space HD 1080p / Nova
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38peWm76l-U

Great documentary. Worth the 1 hour and 54 minutes to watch.


19 posted on 07/30/2014 11:26:28 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Dick Bachert
Where Does the Carbon Dioxide Really Come From?

Hate to sound ungrateful, Richard, but that's not a very useful excerpt.

Just sayin...

20 posted on 07/30/2014 11:28:04 AM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: PATRIOT1876

“Scrubbed”??

The Horror. THE HORROR...!!

Oh wait. That’s how the media handled the vetting of obozo: They scrubbed any information needed to make an informed decision. Not that those voters would MAKE an informed
decision.


21 posted on 07/30/2014 11:29:25 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: Dick Bachert

Hot gas bookmark.


22 posted on 07/30/2014 11:58:02 AM PDT by Dust in the Wind (U S Troops Rock)
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