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Judge says US can't seize tanker full of Kurdish oil off Texas coast
Fox News ^ | 7-30-14

Posted on 07/30/2014 8:17:26 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

A federal magistrate judge ruled Tuesday that U.S. Marshals will not be able to able to carry out her earlier order to seize a million barrels of Kurdish crude oil unless the tanker carrying the cargo comes closer to the Texas shore.

The Wall Street Journal reported that federal magistrate judge Nancy Johnson said that the United Kalavrvta tanker was not within the boundaries of the state or the court's authority. She also said that the matter of who owned the oil should be decided in Iraq, not the United States.

"Seems to me this is not a matter for the U.S. courts to tell the government—the governments—of Iraq who owns what," Johnson said, according to The Journal. "This just seems way outside our jurisdiction."

On Monday, Johnson had ordered the cargo seized in response to a complaint filed by the Iraqi government claiming the oil was smuggled out of Kurdistan without its permission.

If the tanker moves in closer so that smaller vessels can deliver its oil to shore, the U.S. Marshal will act on the court warrant and seize the cargo from those vessels, spokesman Dave Oney told the Associated Press.

The United Kalavryta left a Turkish port in June carrying the crude from a newly opened pipeline that transports crude from the Kurdish oil fields. The buyer was not immediately known.

As the ship approached Texas, Baghdad acted on a threat to sue anyone who buys Kurdish oil, pre-emptively filing a civil suit in U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Texas. On Tuesday, Iraqi Oil Ministry spokesman Assem Jihad welcomed the U.S. judge's seizure order. "The Iraqi government considers these oil shipments to be illegal and we hope that everybody in the world will respect our measures," he said.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: federaljudge; kurds; oil; ownership

1 posted on 07/30/2014 8:17:27 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
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2 posted on 07/30/2014 8:18:24 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

“This just seems way outside our jurisdiction.”... indeed.

what have the kurds done to us lately??


3 posted on 07/30/2014 8:22:32 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Our Liberal President is attempting to stealing the natural resources of another country?


4 posted on 07/30/2014 8:22:32 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Hmmm


5 posted on 07/30/2014 8:23:14 AM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11))
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To: afraidfortherepublic

This is a joke. The Baghdad Government has no control over those Kurdish Oil Fields and it doesn’t look like they will anytime soon. They will be lucky to be able to control the ones in the area they haven’t loss to ISIS yet.


6 posted on 07/30/2014 8:25:19 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Let us hope the Kurds use the money to buy Jihadi-seeking missiles.


7 posted on 07/30/2014 8:27:27 AM PDT by lurk
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Here's an idea. Why don't we support the Kurds instead of harass them? The Kurds are one of the few decent groups in the region.
8 posted on 07/30/2014 8:31:22 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Leaning Right

“Here’s an idea. Why don’t we support the Kurds instead of harass them? The Kurds are one of the few decent groups in the region. “

We should, but Obama isn’t into decent people!


9 posted on 07/30/2014 8:38:49 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Leaning Right
When it comes down to the Kurds vs. ISIS, ObaMao is firmly on the side of the militant terrorist organization.

And the jag-offs who voted for him still can't figure that out.

10 posted on 07/30/2014 8:40:05 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Looks to me the Magistrate strayed a little bit to far into foreign policy.

Which I guess is okay since Federal Magistrates are just about the lowest form of Federal Judges — Kinda like a municipal court judge but they work for the domain of federal district court judges.

I think, most of the bogus Warrants and No Knock warrants we hear about typically come from low level Magistrates.


11 posted on 07/30/2014 8:45:45 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: Usagi_yo

I call it a down payment.


12 posted on 07/30/2014 9:02:33 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (GM is dead and Al Queada is alive.)
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To: vette6387; MeshugeMikey; Leaning Right; afraidfortherepublic

The Kurds number more than 40 million people and in a communication to me early last year I was told they still love Americans.


13 posted on 07/30/2014 9:06:31 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage

I cant understand who would want to seize their oil....other than a mob of jihadist crazies


14 posted on 07/30/2014 9:13:09 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: Hostage
That's true. The Kurds still like Americans. But Obama will eventually break them of that habit.
15 posted on 07/30/2014 9:16:37 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Leaning Right; vette6387; MeshugeMikey; afraidfortherepublic

Both Kuwaitis and Kurds still love America. From those I have heard from they know Obama stinks but will be gone soon enough. They do worry that America will elect another Obama-like candidate.


16 posted on 07/30/2014 9:28:44 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage

“The Kurds number more than 40 million people and in a communication to me early last year I was told they still love Americans.”

I feel like our “government” and I use the term loosely, has really hung the Kurds out to dry. We should, at the very least, provide the Kurds with enough modern weapons to keep ISIS out of their country. As far as the rest of Iraq is concerned, move out all of the remaining non-muzzies, throw in a herd of pigs, and let them continue to kill each other.


17 posted on 07/30/2014 9:30:32 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Hostage

“They do worry that America will elect another Obama-like candidate.”

We all need to be worried about that!
Just viewed some then and now pix of the Normandy Beaches. I doubt if we have the kind of “citizens” today who could and would make that kind of a sacrifice for liberty, or the military leaders to provide the requisite direction.


18 posted on 07/30/2014 9:40:34 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Vigilanteman; MeshugeMikey; vette6387
The policy began under Bush and has continued under Obama

The goal was/is to maintain the Iraq nation and not allow partitioning into southern shia, western sunni, and northern kurd because that partitions the oil.

If the oil gets partitioned, there will be continuous war over the oil.

So the US insisted and it was written into the Iraq constitution that the oil proceeds would be shared and there is a formula for that.

The Kurdish oil had to be shipped south thru the hands of the central govt who would collect the proceeds an disburse it in accordance with the constitution.

But eventually, the pipeline from Kurdish Iraq thru Turkey to the Med was built and now the kurds can get the oil onto the world market, bypassing the central govt, and keeping all the proceeds.

The Sunni Iraqis have had a lot of complaints about Maliki's shia central govt. But now that the Kurdish oil is bypassing, they are more than willing to align themselves ISIS.

19 posted on 07/30/2014 9:54:38 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Hostage

That tanker is BIG baby. Kuwait should have been forced to pay us for our cost of kicking Saddam out of their oil fields!!!


20 posted on 07/30/2014 10:06:33 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

ISIS is going to own it soon I guess


21 posted on 07/30/2014 10:18:04 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Ben Ficklin

Thank you.


22 posted on 07/30/2014 10:20:38 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: vette6387
Just viewed some then and now pix of the Normandy Beaches. I doubt if we have the kind of “citizens” today who could and would make that kind of a sacrifice for liberty, or the military leaders to provide the requisite direction.

When you are drafted, you didn't volunteer. You were fodder.

23 posted on 07/30/2014 10:24:14 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: vette6387

We do have incredibly patriotic men and women in our military who would do anything to defend our traditions and values.

We have an internal war going on and not just with the democrats. This started with George H.W. Bush ‘Bush the Elder’ and his ‘Moderate’ Rockefeller-Republican approach to governing. His mistakes led to Clinton and Clinton led to ‘Bush the Younger’ who succumbed to the RINO Moderate wing of the party. That led to Obama who was opposed by two Moderate RINOs, McCain and Romney. So now we have got to ‘purge’ these losers from our party so that we will have our party back for winners.

Our enemies are the democrats and the GOP establishment. If we don’t take out BOTH, we are lost for the 2016 cycle.


24 posted on 07/30/2014 10:35:34 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Ben Ficklin
When Bush was POTUS it made some sense, because there was no ISIS in control of that part of Iraq.

As usual, BO hides behind the "Bush's fault" excuse when it suits him and ignores precedent when it does not.

25 posted on 07/30/2014 11:03:38 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman
First off, it is not Bush's fault or Obama's fault and I don't hear Obama blaming Bush.

The second thing, ISIS is in control only because the Iraqi Sunnis go along with him. Without the Iraqi Sunnis support in Iraq, ISIS would not be a player.

26 posted on 07/30/2014 11:11:41 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

“When you are drafted, you didn’t volunteer. You were fodder.”

That may have been true for some, but I know my own father (when I was barely a year old), went down and enlisted in the US Navy a day or two after Pearl Harbor. He was gone for four years! And while he was fortunate enough not to be wounded, he had “jungle rot” and a host of other problems for the rest of his life from being in the Philippines.


27 posted on 07/30/2014 12:07:01 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Hostage

“Our enemies are the democrats and the GOP establishment. If we don’t take out BOTH, we are lost for the 2016 cycle.”

You need to add in the US Chamber of Communists, but otherwise you are 100% correct. I am waiting to see what ends up happening in Mississippi. That needs to end very badly for the GOPe and Haley (Boss Hogg) Barbour.
One of Ronald Reagan’s major mistakes was allowing himself to be co-opted into bringing GHWB onto his ticket.


28 posted on 07/30/2014 12:11:05 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Ben Ficklin

“If the oil gets partitioned, there will be continuous war over the oil.”

Well, the war has started despite the “Bush Policy.”


29 posted on 07/30/2014 12:13:04 PM PDT by vette6387
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