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Obama needs to work on his foreign policy, not his golf game (L.A. Times)
Los Angeles Times ^ | July 29, 2014 | By Max Boot

Posted on 07/30/2014 12:38:23 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee

Nero fiddled while Rome burned. On Saturday, President Obama played golf while his foreign policy, and that of the nation he leads, was going up in smoke. Literally.

Saturday was the day the State Department ordered the evacuation of the U.S. Embassy in Libya. Only three years ago, Obama helped NATO allies overthrow Moammar Kadafi as part of his “lead from behind” doctrine, but he has done little to help the resulting democratic government secure its authority.

Not only did the U.S. not support sending international peacekeepers, it didn't mount a serious program to train a new Libyan army. The predictable result has been utter chaos. In September 2012, U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and three other Americans were killed in Benghazi. In recent days, much of Tripoli's main airport has been destroyed in militia fighting. The embassy staff had to be evacuated overland as thick black smoke from the fighting hung over the Tripoli skyline.

In any other circumstances — and especially if the chief executive were a Republican — this would have been a scandal blared across the media. But at a time when we are witnessing the near-total collapse of American foreign policy, it barely registers.

It is hard, after all, for events in Libya to compete with the far greater catastrophe unfolding in Ukraine, where Russian President Vladimir Putin first annexed Crimea and now appears intent on detaching the eastern part of the country. When Ukraine mounted a sustained offensive against Russian-backed separatist militias, Putin upped the ante, providing his proxies with heavy weapons ranging from artillery and tanks to antiaircraft missiles. . .

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1 posted on 07/30/2014 12:38:23 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I disagree.

We’re better off when Obama golfs. If anything he should golf more.


2 posted on 07/30/2014 12:39:12 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Brad from Tennessee

LA Times is clueless.

The Obama doctrine is “on the green in two”


3 posted on 07/30/2014 12:39:27 PM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Too late for that.The buffoon-in -chief has burned all the bridges.


4 posted on 07/30/2014 12:40:56 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

No he needs to work on his golf game.


5 posted on 07/30/2014 12:41:48 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee; MeshugeMikey; NFHale; trisham; All

Don’t forget that the only other Commander in Chief to create a COLD WAR was Truman., both Democrats.


6 posted on 07/30/2014 12:42:49 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: dfwgator

Agreed. He has Valerie Jarrett in Washington to take care of things while he is away as she does while he is there.


7 posted on 07/30/2014 12:45:22 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
'Assad's scorched-earth campaign against Sunni Muslims, abetted by Lebanon's Hezbollah and Iran's Quds Force, remains as vicious as ever. Already far more people have died in Syria's civil war than have died in all of the Arab-Israeli wars of the past half-century, and there is no end in sight.'

It's a start.

Boot was all for supporting Syrian 'rebels'[terrorist] in the past. He seldom lacks a place in the world where he wouldn't want the US to 'intervene'.

8 posted on 07/30/2014 12:45:40 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Yikes, even Pravda on the Pacific can stand only so much.

Someone will be fired for this...


9 posted on 07/30/2014 12:46:39 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Think how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of the populace is worse than that.)
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To: cripplecreek
No he needs to work on his golf game.

"Don't think of it as work. The whole point is just to enjoy yourself."

10 posted on 07/30/2014 12:47:09 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Brad from Tennessee

King Putt has no time for foreign policy.


11 posted on 07/30/2014 12:47:26 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Let him golf. World’s problems are tough crap. War mongers continually want more of America’s blood and treasure. Protect our borders. Screw the world. Build America.


12 posted on 07/30/2014 12:55:46 PM PDT by ex-snook (God forgives and forgets.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I’m gonna take a wild guess here. Max Boot is the LAT’s token conservative or token Republican, right?


13 posted on 07/30/2014 12:56:04 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Brad from Tennessee

If his golf game is anything like his foreign policy, he must be a four putter.................


14 posted on 07/30/2014 12:57:44 PM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Actually it is possible that Obama is a foreign policy Wiz. If the goal is Middle East chaos, removing dictators and abandoning friendly governments to make way for the Muslim Brotherhood and ISIS and the like then surely Obama gets an A+.

It all depends on your perspective. Or Valerie Jarrett’s.


15 posted on 07/30/2014 12:57:51 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (Remember Mississippi)
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To: Red Badger

You can bet he cheats on his score. Probably takes within 30 feet of the hole as a “gimme.”


16 posted on 07/30/2014 12:58:56 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Brad from Tennessee

It’s easier to cheat at golf.


17 posted on 07/30/2014 12:59:14 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: joshua c

“I believe silence will be met with silence”


18 posted on 07/30/2014 1:00:40 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
If Obama Jivethon Lying Circus wants to be serious about curtailing Russia they should look at Reagan. IIRC the U.S. caused the price of oil to dip way down ($25 a barrel? $10 a barrel?).

I believe that oil products are still the number one (only?) income for Russia.

Just turn U.S. oil companies loose and see what happens.

Fat chance.

Screw 'im and all the aged 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus radical, psycho spoiled brats and their ideological litters in the Administration.

From the Chambers to the chamber pot..

Void the bowels of Washington, D.C. 2014 - 2016

19 posted on 07/30/2014 1:01:44 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

First of all... someone is going to have to define ‘foreign policy’ for “O”


20 posted on 07/30/2014 1:06:43 PM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: DoughtyOne

Kind of what I thought. Surprising really.


21 posted on 07/30/2014 1:18:44 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
I think the author misses the point.

Obama’s foreign policy goals are so on track and ahead of schedule, Obama has plenty of time for golf.

It's all been just so easy for him

22 posted on 07/30/2014 1:23:15 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: InterceptPoint

You’re catching-on.

0bama’s goal is for his foreign policy, and that of the nation he leads, to go up in smoke. Literally.


23 posted on 07/30/2014 1:32:19 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

One can not work on what he does not have.

The Department of State has been pretty much rendered obsolete.


24 posted on 07/30/2014 1:34:54 PM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: Graewoulf
Don’t forget that the only other Commander in Chief to create a COLD WAR was Truman., both Democrats.

I'd rather have Truman.

25 posted on 07/30/2014 1:41:31 PM PDT by attyatlaw001
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To: Graewoulf

“...create a COLD WAR was Truman.,..”

Well... I’d say the Russians CREATED it... Truman’s fault was in not putting them in their place while he had the chance to.

And then going timid and tepid about finishing it.


26 posted on 07/30/2014 1:43:44 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: EDINVA; Brad from Tennessee; joshua c; DoughtyOne
"Max Boot is the LAT's token conservative"

Max Boot is a Neoconservative or NeoCon and he doesn't work for LAT, its an editorial.

Does anyone remember the last big NeoCon event? Just a few weeks ago. Bill Kristol, Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Paul Bremmer, and others making the rounds wanting to re-invade Iraq.

The NeoCons don't like Obama's foreign policy, except for Libya. Back there in 2011 when Obama made the decision to intervene the NeoCons were very pleased. At that time Bill Kristol proclaimed Obama to be a "Born Again NeoCon"

27 posted on 07/30/2014 2:35:51 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

“..its an editorial “

I’d say it’s more a commentary than editorial. It doesn’t seem to reflect anything close to the LAT editorial policy. That’s why I assumed Boot was its token “conservative” or “Republican” contributor.

That’s why headlines posted here about contributor commentaries cast in any way as being reflective of the paper/magazine/network are misleading. Reading the headline here, with the LA Times reference, would lead one to believe it was an LAT column or editorial vs the commentary of an individual who in no way reflects that paper’s actual position.


28 posted on 07/30/2014 2:50:35 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: leapfrog0202

Thanks, agreed...


29 posted on 07/30/2014 2:52:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Think how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of the populace is worse than that.)
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To: Ben Ficklin

Ug...

For me Libya was just too confused a situation to be involved in. Both sides were unworthy.

As much as I had loathed Khadaffy, at least his nation was stable and he had reined himself in.

He was a known quantity.

I saw sure destabilization in the aftermath. That’s what has resulted.

Having Muslim brotherhood advisers, for the president has been very corruptive IMO.


30 posted on 07/30/2014 2:57:24 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Think how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of the populace is worse than that.)
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To: EDINVA
He writes for many periodicals, not just LAT. Most likely you will see his articles at NeoCon publications like Weekly Standard or Commentary Magazine.

He's well versed in foreign policy and worked for McCain's and Romney's campaign.

Beginning with George W. Bush, the NeoCons have become very influential in the GOP. Now there is the big battle going on between the NeoCons and the isolationist Rand Paul.

31 posted on 07/30/2014 3:07:39 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Graewoulf

truman could pass as a republican in 2014...

I didnt Know Truman...But I know he wasnt a Barack Obama..


32 posted on 07/30/2014 5:53:46 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: MeshugeMikey
Truman Library

I remember Truman. President Truman was not aloof. He never forgot that he was one of the people. He communicated with us just as we communicate among ourselves. Example (part of a letter sent to a local D.C. neighbor):

Some day I hope to meet you. When that happens you'll need a new nose, a lot of beefsteak for black eyes, and perhaps a supporter below! Pegler, a gutter snipe, is a gentleman alongside you. I hope you'll accept that statement as a worse insult than a reflection on your ancestry.

33 posted on 07/30/2014 9:26:19 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
obie cant string that many words together....


34 posted on 07/30/2014 9:28:55 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: EDINVA

[ Max Boot is the LAT’s token conservative or token Republican, right?]

It’s an Op-Ed or “guest editorial.”


35 posted on 07/31/2014 12:40:33 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Yes, I was trying to make the point that the headline (L.A. Times) would have one believe it was the position of the LAT, rather than that of a commentary article. Happens here all all the time. When a random conservative/Republican/libertarian/whatever has a column printed it is NOT speaking for the publication, so the headline adjustments tend to be misleading.


36 posted on 07/31/2014 1:06:51 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA

You’re right.


37 posted on 07/31/2014 2:14:56 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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