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Morning Joe Panel: Lerner Emails Make it ‘Hard to Argue’ Her Innocence
Washington Free Beacon ^ | July 31, 2014 | Staff

Posted on 07/31/2014 6:46:47 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

... “If the question is was there political, ideological bias inside the IRS, it’s hard to argue ‘no’ after you read that,” said Willie Geist.

“And malice,” added MSNBC contributor Nicolle Wallace. “She equates Republicans as inferior to terrorists. I think motive is there, I think state of mind is there–again, if this were a legal proceeding, they’ve got their gal.”

(Excerpt) Read more at freebeacon.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: irs; lerner; smidgen; teaparty; tyranny
Federal prison.
1 posted on 07/31/2014 6:46:47 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Now we know why she pleaded the fifth.

All she needs to do now is drag this out until Barry can pardon her.

2 posted on 07/31/2014 6:48:57 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Lerner has quickly become the poster girl for the worst of America. The scum.


3 posted on 07/31/2014 6:50:24 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (America is not a refugee camp! It is my home!!!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Leavenworth.


4 posted on 07/31/2014 6:50:33 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

She’ll go free. Dems will fight tooth and nail for her, the media will do what they can, and the Republicans don’t have the cahonies to prosecute this woman.


5 posted on 07/31/2014 6:52:04 AM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I wish I could listen to Wallace but her terrible, media-adverse, screeching speaking voice discourages me from hearing anything she has to say. Worst speaking voice on tv.


6 posted on 07/31/2014 6:52:19 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Whoever campaigns on the theme of getting rid of the IRS will win in a land slide.

Give us our money. Increase sales tax. Have a very low 12%flat tax. More money will come into the treasury.


7 posted on 07/31/2014 6:53:04 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Lerner has quickly become the poster girl for the worst of America.

Unfortunately she's not uncommon in the IRS, nor uncommon as a member of the current totalitarian leftist nomenclature known as the democrats.

8 posted on 07/31/2014 6:57:58 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Texas Eagle
Doesn't she have to be convicted of something before Barry can pardon her?

If so, it doesn't pay for her to drag things out. He can't pardon anyone after his term expires and that isn't all that far off...in relation to how Lerner's case is dragging on at the present time.

Leni

9 posted on 07/31/2014 6:58:11 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Combined US Senate & House has completely lost its voice, its compass, its patriotism & its soul!)
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10 posted on 07/31/2014 6:58:55 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If Donald Sterling can lose his NBA franchise over Illegally-Taped phone calls to his”BI-ITCH”,then Lois’ E-Mails are”Fair Game”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


11 posted on 07/31/2014 6:59:24 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Lois lerner’s”Private”hatred for Conservatives is HER Business,but(when she uses that bias to decide what groups are to be granted”Non-Profit Status”),it becomes a FEDERAL CRIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


12 posted on 07/31/2014 7:01:43 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Well, if they have lost Morning Joe and MSNBC types, she’s in deep doo doo.


13 posted on 07/31/2014 7:02:17 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

One more reason why Congress needs to write a law forbidding an “employee of the citizenry” from pleading the fifth in a job-related inquiry by Congress. Something that has teeth and mandatory sentencing.

The power of the Attorney General needs to be reigned in as well.

Or, it needs to be an elected office instead of an appointed one.


14 posted on 07/31/2014 7:03:58 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: Texas Eagle

Why can’t be sued by the damaged parties? They would certainly have standing.


15 posted on 07/31/2014 7:04:50 AM PDT by JoeVet (First rule of holes ... when you find yourself standing in one - stop digging ... unless ur a Dim)
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To: Texas Eagle

Now we know why she pleaded the fifth.


She lied under oath before taking the fifth.


16 posted on 07/31/2014 7:05:01 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Lakeshark; bandleader

Lerner needs to take her “messiah’s” advice and “stop the hatin’”.


17 posted on 07/31/2014 7:05:06 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (America is not a refugee camp! It is my home!!!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
When they say that, what they mean is anyone who doesn't submit to our way of thinking is a "hater".

In the mean time, as our superiors, they are free to hate us, because that's what should be normal and right.

18 posted on 07/31/2014 7:09:25 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Calling names and profiling PALES to her backdating
documents to give weapons and tunnels to Hamas
and other terrorists groups to enable her and Obama's and the State Dept's planned genocide.



19 posted on 07/31/2014 7:13:50 AM PDT by Diogenesis (The EXEMPT Congress is complicit in the absence of impeachment)
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To: Noamie

Holder was approved by the Senate 75-21. Repeal the 17th Amendment and make the Senate accountable to the States, not lobbyist and cronies.


20 posted on 07/31/2014 7:20:06 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Lakeshark

She is the prime example of why no one is going to find his excellency’s fingerprints on anything involving these felons. His group ensures they place in leadership positions individuals they know will operate between the lines of their beliefs. Any wonder a person goes from being an antagonist toward conservatives at the FEC to a job at the IRS, usually filled within the IRS? When the nitwit’s like RINOs get in, they reach across the aisle and fill some jobs with less than party line people. That jerk USAttorney in western Texas who pursued the cases against those border patrol agents comes to mind. Meanwhile she is out drawing a check while should be in drawing a check for making license plates which is not going to happen.


21 posted on 07/31/2014 7:20:35 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: MinuteGal

No, she does not.

A good example is Ford pardoning Nixon for ANY crimes he MAY HAVE committed!

Obama could pardon her tomorrow if he wanted to.

I predict he will pardon her AND Holder before he leaves office.


22 posted on 07/31/2014 7:23:38 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Texas Eagle

If Zippo pardons her, who would pardon Zippo?

As it stands now, Zippo’s the beneficiary of the criminal conspiracy.

Pardoning her confirms the conspiracy.


23 posted on 07/31/2014 7:28:08 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

She doesn’t sound any different than Eric Holder to me. Both have voiced contempt for conservatives.
Who do you think Obama was talking about when he voiced contempt and said” they get bitter, they cling to their guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti immigrant sentiment or anti trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations “
This contempt for the people who make things work is the DNA of the democrat party. How about Elizabeth Warren and her you didn’t build that BS. It’s all contempt for us.


24 posted on 07/31/2014 7:29:21 AM PDT by reefdiver (Be the Best you can be Whatever you Dream to be)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I can hear it now, though -

it doesn’t matter how much bias or malice you can prove,
you can’t prove she actually acted on it.


25 posted on 07/31/2014 7:29:52 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Texas Eagle

She can’t be pardoned if not first convicted. However, if she can drag it out until the people lose interest, she will have a clean record when they chase the next “squirrel.”


26 posted on 07/31/2014 7:31:12 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

From what I read, her emails merely reflect the thinking of every last Democrat there is, from Obama down to the LIV. Just nice to see someone in a high govt office putting it in writing.


27 posted on 07/31/2014 7:31:20 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yeah, the shriveled up old arrogant hag should be in jail, but so should the guy who told her to commit the crimes that she committed.


28 posted on 07/31/2014 7:46:45 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

These left-wing bureaucrats are the Permanent State. No matter who you vote into the White House or send to Capitol Hill, these government employee termites will keep chewing away.


29 posted on 07/31/2014 7:46:47 AM PDT by jumpingcholla34 (.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Obama has a knack for picking arrogant pricks to head up his departments. ‘Jerk smirk’ scum....
30 posted on 07/31/2014 7:50:45 AM PDT by GOPJ ( NBC - - "Nothing But Crap" network ... jerk smirk scum...)
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To: Mouton

You’re right, cept we know the difference between what she did and what the bamster wanted is very little. unprovable, largely due to our partisan media, and the criminal nature of this administration and the AG.


31 posted on 07/31/2014 7:51:59 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Texas Eagle

More than likely he will insert her under the bus.....that’s what democrats do to friends who become liabilities. A pardon would ignite the conservative base and turn a lot of independents off!!! The dummies of course would love it!!!


32 posted on 07/31/2014 8:22:00 AM PDT by ontap
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To: Dutch Boy
She can’t be pardoned if not first convicted.

Ford pardoned Nixon and he wasn't convicted.

33 posted on 07/31/2014 8:26:28 AM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Diogenesis

Looks like it took them three years to process the application.

I don’t know the specific IRS rules, but for example when you are granted a patent, the term starts with the filing date, not the grant date. Perhaps the same principle applies here.


34 posted on 07/31/2014 8:40:48 AM PDT by Moltke (Sapere aude!)
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To: miss marmelstein
I wish I could listen to Wallace but her terrible, media-adverse, screeching speaking voice discourages me from hearing anything she has to say. Worst speaking voice on tv.

As my Dad once described a pastor of ours, "His voice is ideal for sign language."

35 posted on 07/31/2014 8:44:57 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: N. Theknow

That’s funny!

I hate terrible speaking voices and I think for the money they pay that Wallace chick, they should force her into voice lessons or onto the dole. She stinks in other ways, too.


36 posted on 07/31/2014 8:47:44 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Federal pound her in the *ss prison.


37 posted on 07/31/2014 9:06:22 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: Starstruck
That is true with Ford and Nixon but the USDOJ posts something in conflict with that pardon.

2. Federal convictions only
Under the Constitution, only federal criminal convictions, such as those adjudicated in the United States District Courts, may be pardoned by the President. In addition, the President's pardon power extends to convictions adjudicated in the Superior Court of the District of Columbia and military court-martial proceedings. However, the President cannot pardon a state criminal offense. Accordingly, if you are seeking clemency for a state criminal conviction, you should not complete and submit this petition. Instead, you should contact the Governor or other appropriate authorities of the state where you reside or where the conviction occurred (such as the state board of pardons and paroles) to determine whether any relief is available to you under state law. If you have a federal conviction, information about the conviction may be obtained from the clerk of the federal court where you were convicted.

USDOJ Office of the Pardon Attorney, Pardon Information and Instructions

However, I did a little more research and found in the Article 2 Section 2 of the constitution a broader pardon authority.

Article 2 Section 2
The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several states, when called into the actual service of the United States; he may require the opinion, in writing, of the principal officer in each of the executive departments, upon any subject relating to the duties of their respective offices, and he shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment.

38 posted on 07/31/2014 5:21:38 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: MinuteGal; ontap; Dutch Boy
Not sure about whether or not you have to be convicted of something in order to be pardoned.

Seems like Pres. GHW Bush pardoned Caspar Weinberger before he was convicted of anything.

He may have been indicted for something (I forget what), but I don't think it even went to trial before Bush pardoned him.

Soetoro would pardon Lerner on his way out the door (if he leaves).

39 posted on 07/31/2014 7:14:33 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I don’t care about working our way upthe food chain, this bitch needs to go to prison.


40 posted on 07/31/2014 7:18:49 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07

Agreed.


41 posted on 07/31/2014 7:20:36 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Texas Eagle

Fact is if he did that it would be a big plus for republicans and a PR nightmare for democrats!!!


42 posted on 08/01/2014 5:44:44 AM PDT by ontap
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