Skip to comments.Ebola - 30,000 In Nigeria Believed Exposed, No One Knows Who
Posted on 07/31/2014 11:07:53 AM PDT by Veto!
The catastrophic Ebola outbreak in West Africa may be spreading faster than health experts previously believed. Yesterday, officials in Nigeria said that they were looking for up to 59 people who may have been exposed to the lethal virus by flying on a plane with Liberian-American Patrick Sawyer, who died soon after getting off a flight in Lagos.
On Wednesday, the health authorities there said that they have expanded their search from 59 people to 30,000.
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And with 30,000 per confirmed sick traveler, how many sick travelers before they quit trying to contain?
A repeat of my comment on http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3186471/posts?page=4#4 :
Fellow passengers on his plane were given warnings about the diseases symptoms, which can include bleeding from the nose and mouth, but were allowed to continue on their journeys.
As Ebola has an incubation period of up to 21 days, there are fears that some may even now be spreading the disease still further.
We are told not to worry because it takes close contact with an infected person to catch it, but now everybody who knows someone on the plane is at risk?
Let’s have Open Borders and let these poor people into the US. Aren’t we a compassionate country?
Doctors Without Borders says it’s absolutely out of control, and the outbreak can only get worse.
Meanwhile, Liberia is closing schools, but stopping short of using troops to quarantine villages.
Ruh roh, Raggy!
We should have those countries quarantined, but that would be racist!
Exactly. FReepers were on top of this right away, knew all passengers on the that plane should have been detained and quarantined. But we’re those ****ole conservatives, what to we know?
They may be theoretically at risk, but in reality, they are not.
it’s never been a matter of if, only a matter of when something like this would happen. We’re overdue.
Ebola has a 21 day incubation period...so how can they confine the massive number of people who were even in the airport, let alone the plain?
Liberia is not like the surrounding rural areas of other neighbor nations who have been containing this virus since the 70’s. It’s a major city with millions of people going thru their airports daily.
This is why ‘extreme measures’ are now being taken in Liberia....the cat got out of the bag into a major hub of International and national travel.....
Remember SARS and Swine flue.....same thing.... the hype went International.
Populaion bases in countries where each person is a drain on state resources will cull the heard with such a plague.
Maybe that EBT card and Obamaphone might not be such a good thing. Don't go to the free medical clinic IMHO if you are a taker.
Ebola is introduced into the human population through close contact with the blood, secretions, organs or other bodily fluids of infected animals. In Africa, infection has been documented through the handling of infected chimpanzees, gorillas, fruit bats, monkeys, forest antelope and porcupines found ill or dead or in the rainforest.
Ebola then spreads in the community through human-to-human transmission, with infection resulting from direct contact (through broken skin or mucous membranes) with the blood, secretions, organs or other bodily fluids of infected people, and indirect contact with environments contaminated with such fluids. Burial ceremonies in which mourners have direct contact with the body of the deceased person can also play a role in the transmission of Ebola. Men who have recovered from the disease can still transmit the virus through their semen for up to 7 weeks after recovery from illness.
WHO Ebola virus disease fact sheet
Yeah, don't worry; be happy.
How quickly to symptoms manifest? Might someone bump into an infected person in an airport elevator and catch the disease even tho the carrier didn't yet know he was ill?
But they are quarantining villages and health clinics.....
We need to be careful to identify what’s real and what’s media hype now that this has made the news. Ebola’s been in Africa since the 70’s.
It’s escalated recently for various reasons, (search the net), and thus jumped the net so to speak...that’s why Liberia has taken the measures it’s taken now....and it’s neighbor countries.
There’s been boatloads and boatloads of funding going into Africa for decades...but their corruption, and politicians scamming so much off the top here and there, we’ll never see Africa out of the woods they’re in.
Watch the funding now flow to Africa for their New Humanitarian Crisis.
>So NOW they’re looking for the other people on plane with Ebola victim.<
It may swim across the Rio Grande into the country and not be detected until it’s too late.
IIRC, SARS scared researchers because they really didn’t know what was going on, and bird/swine flu was always one more mutation away. But talk to infectious disease researchers (and, because of a particular family member, I have), and it is Ebola which is always the real fear. You can call it hype (not without reason, I may add), but this is something that does warrant real concern. An Ebola virus which transmits efficiently prior to the onset of severe symptoms is the disease communities’ worst nightmare (that, coupled with a “don’t worry, be happy” official policy based on the belief that the panic is worse than the disease). Add to the more efficient transmission, the fact that it appears to find a home in a wide variety of animals, and this is not, in my opinion, hype, but rather something more ominous.
There is at least a 10% chance that this goes global in a significant way (just a guestimate, btw). Given the ramifications of such an event, a meaningful and coordinated response is clearly warranted.
Yeah, another excuse to stop by the ammo store and buy some more.
Dark Winter was illuminating in many ways, but its most important finding is that the politicians were always 48-72 hours late with critical containment decisions.
EHF outbreaks have always burned out, because the virus kills the host too fast. However, there has never been an EHF outbreak in a typical West African "city" (really better described as a dump for human beings).
There's a lot we don't know, and the mortality in Western ICUs will undoubtedly be lower (if they can be staffed), but this has the potential to turn into a very big problem very fast.
Thanks for the info. Sound as contagious as flu, which spreads if an infected person sneezes in your vicinity, But there’s no Ebola shot yet.
Tekmira, a Canadian company, has a vaccine in the works:
>I'm sure you're right. They will get nothing from me; the monsters are murdering elephants and rhinos as fast as they can. Maybe Ebola is payback for those crimes against nature.
I only ever see a handful of FR posters who actually "get" this.
They are very open about their plans for us.
We don't really know that. (We do know that it does not transmit over long distances outdoors). "Close contact" is a term of art that can mean a couple of different things. In a hospital, it means 36"-72" and I'm sure EHF transmits that far, easily.
But the keys to this situation are crowd distances (6'-12') and how infectious contaminated surfaces (blood and vomit) are. If EHF goes 12" and/or if it is persistent on environmental surfaces, once it winds up and lets go in Lagos, it will be very bad.
As I mentioned in previous posts...this is not to downplay the serious nature of Ebola...but it IS fast now becoming a political beast..... When this happens every group that’s doing tests and trials will come knocking at every governments door for more funding and the politicians will use it as a card played in their game....as well as nation leaders declaring a crisis of humanitarian needs.
I’m just pretty sick of sending money through the rip off channels to help in Africa when there is little that comes of it but more fighting, death and disease....and the new rounds of begging for revenues to fix what THEY break.
I tend to doubt the response will be one of “meaningful and coordinated efforts”.....thought they will go through the motions. Liberia is already doing what is done to contain this.....and with it already also with their Leader asking for yet more funding for their humanitarian crisis.
It’s never ending......
IMAGINE MILLIONS OF CHILDREN” swimming across the pacific to escape the VIOLENCE of EBOLA....and being shipped to Hawaii...Wisconsin Maine California and California
“How quickly to symptoms manifest? Might someone bump into an infected person in an airport elevator and catch the disease even tho the carrier didn’t yet know he was ill?”
It would appear so. An infected person is contagious before symptoms are present.
And if you read the link from B.A. above, it also looks like a cough or sneeze can transmit the disease, the recipient collecting the virus in the lungs and airways.
Where do you begin?
Latex gloves, check
Level II hippa compliant masks, check
Food to feed a family of four for six months?
Water purification and rain barrels
Formation of a neighborhood militia? Where u going to run to?
Where will this end when government collapses and fifer domes start. More important, how do we reset w/o modern technology. Will electricity be available after the collapse?
George Will says we can let them all in ‘cause we are America!
BTW George Will may know baseball but otherwise I think that he is an idiot trying to insure his invitations to the Brie and Chablis parties in D.C. and the Hamptons.
I share your concern about those that have their hands in their pockets. Just wanted to point out that this is the stuff that keeps researchers awake at night, and what we have seen so far does not contradict their more dire fears. SARS and bird/swine flu were nothing compared to the potential of Ebola.
Ebola in the U.S.?
So, could the Ebola virus come to the United States? Definitely. Would it spread widely? Unlikely.
“We do not anticipate this will spread in the U.S. if an infected person is hospitalized here,” CDC Director Tom Frieden said in a statement Tuesday. “We are taking action now by alerting health care workers in the U.S. and reminding them how to isolate and test suspected patients while following strict infection-control procedures.”
American hospitals are adequately supplied with infection-control equipment like gloves, gowns, and masks that will prevent the spread of the disease. American medical care workerseducated by the AIDS epidemicknow how to keep themselves safe while treating sick patients. And the American system of reporting illness would identify a sick patient very quickly, allowing the disease to be contained and controlled.
RE your great comment on Watch the Funding Flow:
“The head of the World Health Organization and leaders of West African nations affected by the Ebola outbreak are to announce a joint $100m (£59m; 75m euro) response plan .” More at: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-28593987
Aren’t they also pushing man-made global warming? Yeah, I trust them.
Horrors! Ebola virus could spread at parties. But perhaps Chablis kills it.
That is something all the Health Organizations are saying doesn't happen.
I suspect this virus always burned out in the jungle because folks died off pretty quickly and didn't travel much.
But turn it loose in a modern city/airports and all bets are off.
It DOES transmit quite easily and quickly. And the gestation period allows for wide dispersal.
CDC and WHO wouldn't lie to us, would they? lol
I wonder if a good pinotage would have the same effect. I'll have to conduct experiments.
You mean obamacare doesn't cover it? But we'll send billions to hospitals in Africa, just wait.
...”more interested in public relations than anything else”....
Unfortunately the two work together..apart.
Nat’l Geographic has people on the ground in Africa...therefore they will provide information regarding this event...as will others.
“Close proximity” is what is really scary.
Mass transit, schools, office buildings, even grocery stores. No way to do any of this with unknown carriers in and about these areas.
The idea of everyone sheltering in place for 30 days would totally stop it, but that idea is also totally unworkable.