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NRA Backs Lamar Alexander Against Pro-2A Tea Partier Joe Carr
Moonbattery ^ | 7/30/14 | Staff Written, no by line

Posted on 07/31/2014 12:40:08 PM PDT by CharlesThe Hammer

Once again we have to ask, what the hell is the NRA up to?

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; rinos
Pattern of NRA support for wobbly RINOs continues...? NRA leadership should hear about it.
1 posted on 07/31/2014 12:40:08 PM PDT by CharlesThe Hammer
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To: CharlesThe Hammer
The NRA is the Second Amendment's Chamber of Crony-Fascists.
2 posted on 07/31/2014 12:41:45 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: CharlesThe Hammer

Follow the money, it is all that matters.


3 posted on 07/31/2014 12:42:09 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: CharlesThe Hammer

Money. They are searching for money. Any major organization does. They see more money from the GOPe then from the Tea Party right now


4 posted on 07/31/2014 12:44:52 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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To: CharlesThe Hammer

I expect they figure he’ll win again so they want to have him in their corner. That’s the power of being both the incumbent and the establishment candidate. It’s also the reason we need to destroy the present 2-party system to get any meaningful change of direction in this country.


5 posted on 07/31/2014 12:45:53 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: CharlesThe Hammer

Hasn’t the NRA backed Harry Reid in the past?


6 posted on 07/31/2014 12:46:03 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: CharlesThe Hammer

As far as the NRA goes, I will never forgive them for the Harry Reid fiasco.


7 posted on 07/31/2014 12:46:26 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: SECURE AMERICA
They're experts at playing the political odds. With all gun factors being equal, back the incumbent because if you don't and the odds are that he'll win again he might vent his anger on your cause.
8 posted on 07/31/2014 12:46:48 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: madprof98

You won’t destroy the 2-party system (in reality 1 1/2 party)as long as we have the electoral college.


9 posted on 07/31/2014 12:48:52 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

The NRA claims that their formula is that they always back an incumbent unless he’s got a bad rating. I’ve seen them backing vaguely-not-anti-gun Democrats against 2A supporter Republicans just because the Dem was the incumbent. They place no value on what you say until you get in office and actually do something.

I understand the actions speak louder than words concept but there has to be a limit.


10 posted on 07/31/2014 12:48:57 PM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: Fiji Hill

Yes, they did.


11 posted on 07/31/2014 12:49:11 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

Interesting, because I quit the NRA for the very reason that they support RINOs; and DIMS.


12 posted on 07/31/2014 12:52:19 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician. Some assembly required.)
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To: Fiji Hill

Yep. Right after Harry helped open a multi-million dollar shooting sports center in his State.

I’m a Life Member, but I’m not on first name terms with LaPierre and crew.

Still, I’ll shoot ‘em an email expressing my “WTF?” feelings...


13 posted on 07/31/2014 1:00:05 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tri nornar eg bir. Binde til rota...)
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To: CharlesThe Hammer

Why I’m out of the NRA.

Screw them and their flexible principles.

When I was growing up my father explained to me the slippery slope of “situation ethics”. I saw his point, but didn’t really think about it much. It is so clear now why “situation ethics” is really no ethics at all.

Liberals live by “situation ethics”, it’s their 10 commandments rolled into one. As do our pseudo conservative representatives and organizations like the NRA. Principles are changed and abandoned like a hooker’s underwear.


14 posted on 07/31/2014 1:00:23 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: CharlesThe Hammer

I pretty much always figured the NRA for GOP/E supporters.


15 posted on 07/31/2014 1:01:34 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Insanity


16 posted on 07/31/2014 1:02:25 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

“when I took the service exam my psych profile fit a certain... moral flexibility would be the only way to describe it”.


17 posted on 07/31/2014 1:02:55 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: CharlesThe Hammer

The NRA always backs the incumbent unless they have below a C rating.


18 posted on 07/31/2014 1:06:54 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: CharlesThe Hammer

One in the hand.


19 posted on 07/31/2014 1:15:27 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: CharlesThe Hammer

If you check the NRA link for the TN race you will see that they didn’t endorse anyone in that race. The article is BS.

http://www.nrapvf.org/


20 posted on 07/31/2014 1:18:05 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: SECURE AMERICA
Money. They are searching for money. Any major organization does. They see more money from the GOPe then from the Tea Party right now.

That's absurd. The NRA gives money to candidates, they don't get money from them.

Every election we go through this same thing. The NRA is a single issue organization. They don't care about other issues, unless those issues affect their ability to do their job like McCain-Feingold. Given two candidates with pro-gun records they support the incumbent, because history shows incumbents are far more likely to win. The NRA has been very open about that policy, yet the same people here always post offended messages to the effect of "that does it, I'm never giving them another dime". I think some folks here have "quit" giving them money about 100 times, if they ever gave any at all, which I doubt.

If you don't like that policy, there is a solution. The NRA is a grass roots organization. The leaders are elected by the members. Get involved, go to your local Members' Council meetings, and vote people who share your opinion into the Board of Directors. Or bitch on an online forum and feel self righteous.

21 posted on 07/31/2014 1:19:09 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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To: Arm_Bears

Part of the NRA’s contribution to Harry Reid was my money.

I understand their playing the odds of supporting an incumbant but I have to do what what is right with my money.

I have and will continue to send my money elsewhere.

Although, I did like their “America’s First Freedom” magazine.


22 posted on 07/31/2014 1:20:09 PM PDT by super7man (Oh why did I post that, now I'll never be able to run for Congress.)
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To: Beagle8U

Aw, all these NRA bashers have so much fun bitching, and you go spoiling it with facts.


23 posted on 07/31/2014 1:22:59 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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To: Hugin

There are acutally three options:

1)Get involved, go to your local Members’ Council meetings, and vote people who share your opinion into the Board of Directors.

2)Bitch on an online forum and feel self righteous

3)Move on to greener pastures, and support ($$)candidates that support the 2nd ammendment as well as being conservative on other issues.


24 posted on 07/31/2014 1:28:44 PM PDT by super7man (Oh why did I post that, now I'll never be able to run for Congress.)
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To: Hugin

The NRA makes some stupid endorsements some times, but not in this case. Alexander A-, Carr A, but no endorsement for either.


25 posted on 07/31/2014 1:30:26 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: CharlesThe Hammer

They supported Thad Cochran over Chris McDaniel in Mississippi too. I don’t think I will renew my membership. They are anti Tea Party.


26 posted on 07/31/2014 1:31:03 PM PDT by katwoman5779
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To: Hugin
This is the unfortunate truth. The NRA is no ones friend. There is no way you can consider them a solid ally, especially a political one. Their focus is strictly single-focused. Some times that works against us, most times it works in our favor.

My biggest beef with the NRA isn't their political choices, but in how they have bowed to supporting restrictive laws in the past. Love me for it or hate me for it, I'm a purist when it comes to 2nd amendment "interpretation". I should be able to own anything that our military does if so choose to and I shouldn't need a permission slip to do it. I also feel that a released ex-felon should either have the same rights as me, or he should stay in prison. The NRA does not share my point of view, but I still send the bastards money because they "mostly" fight the good fight.

27 posted on 07/31/2014 1:37:02 PM PDT by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: madprof98

It’s also the reason we really, really need term limits.


28 posted on 07/31/2014 1:38:15 PM PDT by upchuck (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care.)
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To: super7man

Nothing wrong with #3 option. But it does nothing to help keep squishy pro 2A incumbents stay in line. When a candidate gets money from an ordinary individual it carries no influence as far as future actions. When a group like the NRA-PFV gives money it comes with implicit strings attached, and they know it.

Doing both 1 and 3 is another alternative.


29 posted on 07/31/2014 1:46:20 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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To: CharlesThe Hammer
NO ONE in the PROGUNNER FAMILY is a member of or will join the NRA
30 posted on 07/31/2014 2:04:02 PM PDT by progunner (no compromise)
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To: CharlesThe Hammer

Pathetic.


31 posted on 07/31/2014 2:06:59 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: CharlesThe Hammer
C'mon guys - NRA ALWAYS supports pro-gun incumbent over pro-gun challenger - why are y'all shocked each time they do that?
They calculate the most efficient way to support gun-rights, which is to always back the RKBA incumbent, no matter how squishy on anything (or everything) else.
32 posted on 07/31/2014 2:08:52 PM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Resolute Conservative

NRA is the Second Amendment version of AARP. There are better organizations to help. They are like the Chamber of Communists. Didn’t renew my membership five years ago and not sorry I didn’t.


33 posted on 07/31/2014 2:38:05 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: CharlesThe Hammer

The 2012 election was a disaster for the NRA. They lost 7 of 8 Senate races they put 100k or more in and 1/2 of the House races they were involved in. Maybe this is a good thing.


34 posted on 07/31/2014 2:44:38 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: CharlesThe Hammer
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The NRA heard from me.

I canceled my NRA membership ... after they endorsed-supported Mitch McConnell ...


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35 posted on 07/31/2014 2:45:33 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (.)
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To: Hugin
A factor I believe will diminish the NRA's influence is that there are alternative Second Amendment organizations that not only are stronger on defending the Second without compromise, but are also wiser with respect to NOT supporting candidates who are squishy or just plain wrong on other conservative principles. These organizations also tend to be closer to the grassroots than they are to D.C. cocktail parties.

Many of us former NRA members have switched to more reliable grassroots 2nd Amendment organizations like Gun Owners of America and, in the case of Tennessee, the Tennessee Firearms Association. That way we no longer have to feel like a cheap date after writing a check in support.

36 posted on 07/31/2014 2:48:39 PM PDT by molewhacka
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To: CharlesThe Hammer

This is why I left the NRA!!!


37 posted on 07/31/2014 3:26:19 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Arm_Bears

i was thinking of rejoining but not now. i belong to Rocky Mountain Gun Owners and will keep my money local.


38 posted on 07/31/2014 4:05:06 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (we shouldn't fear the government. the government should fear us.)
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To: CharlesThe Hammer
The NRA has succumbed to power politics. Everything is now about power & perceived influence.

Conservatives are gonna have to go rogue, voting against the elitists who have taken over the Republican party, the NRA, & other supposed conservative organizations.

Either vote for conservative, 3rd party candidates or vote for the Democrat if it means voting out the fat cat RINOs. Cancel your NRA membership.

Look at it this way: RINOs are gonna vote this country into Hell along with the Rats, so we might as well have a Rat in office than a lying RINO. The NRA is in bed with the elitists who hate guns in the hands of citizens. By supporting Alexander it is tacitly supporting more gun control, bigger government, more tyranny.

The likes of Alexander & Cochran are traitors to their base. It's time the base voted for anybody but them. Let the NRA get its money from the elitists it supports.

39 posted on 07/31/2014 4:26:29 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Hugin
Doing both 1 and 3 is another alternative.

OK, it is.

40 posted on 07/31/2014 4:33:38 PM PDT by super7man (Oh why did I post that, now I'll never be able to run for Congress.)
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To: CharlesThe Hammer

The NRA is fully establishment.That’s really all that needs to be said.


41 posted on 07/31/2014 4:54:41 PM PDT by zeugma (It is time for us to start playing cowboys and muslims for real now.)
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To: CharlesThe Hammer

They backed Cochran in Mississippi, too.


42 posted on 07/31/2014 6:24:04 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: vette6387

I quit about 10 years ago.


43 posted on 08/01/2014 6:51:23 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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