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German officer will serve as US Army Chief of Staff in Europe. First non-American Officer.
army times can't post | July 31, 2014 | Me

Posted on 07/31/2014 3:19:28 PM PDT by machogirl

A German Army General has been appointed to Chief of Staff of U.S. Army Europe. This is the first time a non-U.S. officer has held this position.


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KEYWORDS: army; armyeuropecommand; bundeswehr; chiefofstaff; europe; eussr; german; nato; unitedstatesarmy; usarmy; yeswescan
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He is the first Non-American Officer to hold this position. Freepers with Military knowledge, is this significant in a bad way?
1 posted on 07/31/2014 3:19:28 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: machogirl

Gannett, Army Times, could not post but here is the link.

http://www.armytimes.com/article/20140731/NEWS08/307310070/German-officer-serve-U-S-Army-Europe-s-chief-staff


2 posted on 07/31/2014 3:20:07 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: machogirl
Why would anybody but an American serve as the US army chief of staff?
3 posted on 07/31/2014 3:20:16 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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To: machogirl

WT....????


4 posted on 07/31/2014 3:20:49 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: machogirl

When did she become a he? What bathroom will be most used?


5 posted on 07/31/2014 3:21:31 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: machogirl
The WSJ describes it as a “rare sign of cooperation”. Specious description. I say this is a sign of US submission, given the US leadership at present.
6 posted on 07/31/2014 3:22:06 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: machogirl

Kinda smacks of one world government huh?


7 posted on 07/31/2014 3:22:12 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: machogirl

Obama is not an America, but an Indonesian,
which is why the borders are open,
al qaeda fill in within BOTH the CIA and DOD,
and the military will soon be al Qaeda and Hamas.

America is so screwed, thanks to the selfserving
EXEMPT Congress which could not give a damn.


8 posted on 07/31/2014 3:22:41 PM PDT by Diogenesis (The EXEMPT Congress is complicit in the absence of impeachment)
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To: machogirl

Makes sense, since we have a non-American president.


9 posted on 07/31/2014 3:23:01 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

I don’t know. I am not familiar with military protocol. I wonder why also?


10 posted on 07/31/2014 3:24:58 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: machogirl

Sounds crazy to me too, but I’m not in that “world”


11 posted on 07/31/2014 3:25:09 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: machogirl

Maybe our current Fuhrer has decreed it.


12 posted on 07/31/2014 3:25:40 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Hillary 2016! Really??? That's Retarded Sir.)
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To: blackdog

I don’t know about that. It would not surprise me though.


13 posted on 07/31/2014 3:25:54 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: machogirl

Is he required to join the US Army or is he allowed to remain a German Army officer?


14 posted on 07/31/2014 3:25:57 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: blackdog

yes


15 posted on 07/31/2014 3:26:06 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Olog-hai

I agree. It appears strange, but not surprising. I’m surprised he’s not Muslim.


16 posted on 07/31/2014 3:27:04 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Diogenesis

I agree. Barry doesn’t care about American Citizens nor does he work for us.


17 posted on 07/31/2014 3:27:38 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: ConservaTexan

yes


18 posted on 07/31/2014 3:27:52 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: machogirl

Well....Non American for American forces....When are we getting a foreign police force and FBI?


19 posted on 07/31/2014 3:28:06 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: GeronL

crazy, but not surprising anymore. wonder what we are paying him?


20 posted on 07/31/2014 3:28:32 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: machogirl

A German certainly has no allegiance to the US.

This is an old Soviet tactic. You move troops out of their homelands to “guard” other civilians. Then they have no qualms about firing on the locals since their families don’t live there.


21 posted on 07/31/2014 3:28:46 PM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: headstamp 2

It appears he is staying German?


22 posted on 07/31/2014 3:29:06 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Why would anybody but an American serve as the US army chief of staff?

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Rephrasing....

Why would anybody but an American serve as the US army Commander in Cheif?


23 posted on 07/31/2014 3:29:20 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: machogirl

That’s pretty bizarre.


24 posted on 07/31/2014 3:30:11 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: Bringbackthedraft

The “multi-national” environment he desires. Had to fire a bunch of high military first. So who does this German Army Officer answer to in the end?


25 posted on 07/31/2014 3:31:05 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: machogirl

Uh....Like Very Bad and if true is a very Impeachable offense...Major No No for the CinC


26 posted on 07/31/2014 3:31:58 PM PDT by docman57 (Retired but still on Duty)
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To: Dallas59

Like Eric Holder? Soon I’m sure. Barry’s trying to squeeze in his personal international army before we peons revolt.


27 posted on 07/31/2014 3:32:13 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Olog-hai
The Germans do have a lot of experience at dealing with Russian hordes.
28 posted on 07/31/2014 3:32:45 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: caver

Is this pay back to Merkel for the NSA spying on Germany?


29 posted on 07/31/2014 3:32:55 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: machogirl

US generals must not have been PC enough.


30 posted on 07/31/2014 3:33:12 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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To: machogirl

Achtung Panzer!


31 posted on 07/31/2014 3:33:35 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Sooth2222

Do they? Looks like the reverse is the case. I’ve never heard of Berlin ever conquering Moscow.


32 posted on 07/31/2014 3:34:16 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: headstamp 2

yes, it is bizarre. I can’t imagine a US Army officer running another Country’s command.


33 posted on 07/31/2014 3:34:21 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: machogirl

Chief of Staff is bad. Very bad.

Look - Army do secondments all the time. I had 18 months at Ft. Bragg and had 5 squads of US soldiers under me. That were fun and gave me a life long affection for Texans. They party hard and work even harder! :) .

I’ve had a Nepalese CO for a bit, and an Aussie. Couple of Israelis, and commanded two squads of Iraqis.

But it is temporary. That is the deal. Deploy then move on. You sort of are in the chain of command and you also are not.

But Chief of Staff for a region is up there in President territory. You want a native who is totally loyal to the country. Think about the sheer volume of intel he’s going to be getting every single day (poor sod). Sure, Germany is an ally now - but for how long.


34 posted on 07/31/2014 3:34:44 PM PDT by EC1
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To: caver

Certainly no Bundeswehr general will have allegiance to the US.


35 posted on 07/31/2014 3:35:06 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: machogirl

Welcome to the New World Order. You no longer have a national border and you no longer have a Constitution.


36 posted on 07/31/2014 3:35:15 PM PDT by dforest
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To: docman57; Nachum

Barry keeps piling up Nachum’s list.


37 posted on 07/31/2014 3:35:32 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Let's Roll

Guess not. I can’t believe there wasn’t a QUALIFIED, US Army Officer to take this position.


38 posted on 07/31/2014 3:36:25 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: machogirl
He answers to Germany. He has no command authority in the system. He is merely there as the Chief of Staff to the Commander. He will be there as a liaison.
39 posted on 07/31/2014 3:37:06 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Sooth2222

That is no excuse. American General have always done the job.


40 posted on 07/31/2014 3:37:21 PM PDT by dforest
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To: 353FMG

I had to “google” that.


41 posted on 07/31/2014 3:37:30 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: machogirl

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Aerospace_Defense_Command

Above is a link explaining the bi-command structure of NORAD. An American four star and a Canadian three star. I had thought that at one time or another a Canadian was in command but didn’t find a reference to that.

I don’t know what the German will command. I had thought that US forces never served under a foreign commander. In WW1 the allies desperately lobbied to use the US forces as piecemeal replacements for their losses. But the general in command refused, so it must have been up to him. He held them out of combat as long as possible as they were insufficiently trained. Then he relented and threw them into battle (Bellow Wood?) to save the allies bacon and, as I recall, we took multi-thousand casualties, which was common in nearly every battle then.

If a foreign commander lost significant US forces lives I’d imagine that would cause a significant political problem at home. Anybody know if this position commands people or is it advisory?


42 posted on 07/31/2014 3:37:38 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: machogirl

“Is this pay back to Merkel for the NSA spying on Germany?”

Interesting thought! Maybe the new head honcho is bought and paid for? Obama seems to have to goods on almost all of the higher ups in the US.


43 posted on 07/31/2014 3:37:50 PM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: machogirl

The Chief of Staff does not command combat forces. He serves as major staff assistant to the Commanding General of U.S. forces in Europe, who is an American.


44 posted on 07/31/2014 3:38:51 PM PDT by Procyon (Decentralize, degovernmentalize, deregulate, demonopolize, decredentialize, disentitle.)
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To: EC1

Thank you, I was wondering about that high level of the position. I know pilots from other countries train a lot at the bases here, but Chief of Staff?


45 posted on 07/31/2014 3:39:10 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: machogirl

Just doing the job that Americans won’t do any longer.


46 posted on 07/31/2014 3:39:19 PM PDT by Dogfaced Soldier
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To: machogirl

Hw would probably like to replace all our officers with foreigners


47 posted on 07/31/2014 3:39:51 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: dforest

I agree. This Administration is shredding the Constitution and using a wrecking ball on this Country every day. Wonder if President Jarrett was in on the decision?


48 posted on 07/31/2014 3:40:34 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: machogirl
Do the troops need to refer to him as Herr Brigadegeneral, or will Sir suffice?
49 posted on 07/31/2014 3:40:53 PM PDT by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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To: Theoria

My question is Why? Use a US Army officer and employ the German Gen. as a “liason”? Why the “Chief of Staff”?


50 posted on 07/31/2014 3:42:03 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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