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Should We All Get €12,000 a year? ($16k)
The Local ^ | 25 Jul 2014

Posted on 07/31/2014 3:20:56 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 07/31/2014 3:20:56 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Still a ridiculous idea.


2 posted on 07/31/2014 3:21:45 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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He made more than I did in a year.


3 posted on 07/31/2014 3:23:03 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (The zombies here elected alcee hastings. TERM LIMITS ... TERM LIMITS)
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How about we end all forms of welfare and give the “poor” the money without having to fund a massive bureaucracy to process it. We’d probably save a hundred billion or more per year without actually reducing benefits.


4 posted on 07/31/2014 3:23:45 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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me too


5 posted on 07/31/2014 3:24:03 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: nickcarraway

Street corners would be full of people begging for money...after having spent most of their “income” on drugs, jewelry, booze, sex, dvd’s, TV’s, phones....then screaming and hollering that $16K isn’t enough.


6 posted on 07/31/2014 3:24:37 PM PDT by Dallas59
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The 29-year-old lives in a rented apartment in Berlin with his wife and their daughter and eats lunch in a welfare kitchen. Having time is more important than having money, he says.

I guess that depends, Michael. If you weren't getting Welfare, you and your daughter would be starving on the street. If someone else wasn't working to earn money and then pay part of that money in taxes, you wouldn't have Welfare. If the whole world decided to live off Welfare, we would all die. I hate POS's like this guy.

7 posted on 07/31/2014 3:27:39 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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Sounds a lot like Chelsea Clinton. Remember, she wasn’t too interested in money either. Same situation, just on a larger scale.


8 posted on 07/31/2014 3:35:21 PM PDT by fhayek
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If everyone was paid $16,000 per year, then $16,000 would become the new zero.


9 posted on 07/31/2014 3:46:22 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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What would happen if everyone was suddenly paid €1,000 a month with no strings attached?

I would probably be expected to pay $2000 a month in taxes to pay for the privilege of getting that $1000 per month.

10 posted on 07/31/2014 3:47:34 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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And the ideologically diverse Pirate Party

Pirate Party?

Sounds like the Democrats, but with more truth in advertising.
11 posted on 07/31/2014 3:53:23 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Democrats: The perfect party for the helpless and stupid, and those who would rule over them.)
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I want $16,000 a month.


12 posted on 07/31/2014 3:56:31 PM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Obama - "I will stand with the Muslims")
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“What would happen if everyone was suddenly paid €1,000 a month with no strings attached?”

Someone would have to come up with $3 trillion every year.


13 posted on 07/31/2014 4:03:33 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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I'd buy a camper van, quit working, and live in national parks with all the time in the world to read everything I always wanted to read but never had the time. Long walks. Beautiful sunsets. Color me gone.

Which is why it wouldn't work. Too many producers like me (my little business supports four families, most single mothers) that the whole thing would crash.

14 posted on 07/31/2014 4:06:47 PM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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Yep. They'd go through money instantly, and be in the exact same situation they were before. Most of them, anyway.

But by all means, if Germany wants to try it, let them. But you'd have to let it run like that for about 3 generations to really see the effect on the human psyche.

15 posted on 07/31/2014 4:21:37 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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If everyone was paid $16,000 per year, then $16,000 would become the new zero.

Yes. And housing prices would go up quickly, because someone earning $16,000 a year now might be gainfully employed, but when every crackhead can rent or buy in his area, the poor who don't want to be around this type will have to pay more to get into a decent neighborhood.

16 posted on 07/31/2014 4:27:32 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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I’m sick of working and I’d like to quit! Where do I sign up? Oh, and would ya’ll make sure you give me enough money that I could afford to buy a pony too?


17 posted on 07/31/2014 4:43:17 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: GeronL

I’d go with that except the entire system would re-develop around it.


18 posted on 07/31/2014 4:48:04 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun" - Obama, setting RoE with his opposition)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

“If you weren’t getting Welfare, you and your daughter would be starving on the street. If someone else wasn’t working to earn money and then pay part of that money in taxes, you wouldn’t have Welfare. If the whole world decided to live off Welfare, we would all die. I hate POS’s like this guy.”

He’s wealthy (doesn’t have to work), and is experimenting.

When rich people do these things it makes me suspicious, as though they are trying to gauge how little the little peons can subsist on. Death camp commandants probably measured out diets like this.


19 posted on 07/31/2014 4:53:18 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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How about we end all forms of welfare and give the “poor” the money without having to fund a massive bureaucracy to process it. We’d probably save a hundred billion or more per year without actually reducing benefits.

You're right. I once went through the STATISTICAL ABSTRACT OF THE UNITED STATES, adding up all the means-tested, income-transfer programs at federal and state level. If we simply took the money and gave it to the poor, every poor family of four would have an income of $32,000 per year. Of course, that cuts out all the people who administer the welfare programs, probably adding them to the numbers of the poor. However, it illustrates that what we're doing, as someone once put it, amounts to feeding the sparrows through the horses.

What would happen to peoples motivations and incentives if they could get this money without working? I don't know, but I suspect in the long run it wouldn't be good for them. But the present system isn't good for them either, and it funds a lot of people who are making a living off the poor.

20 posted on 07/31/2014 5:06:47 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (Book: Resistance to Tyranny. Buy from Amazon.)
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