Obamacare Architect´s ´Mistake´ About Subsidies Used by HHS as Defense in Court

Breitbart ^ | 8/1/14 | Scot Vorse

[Nachum]

Last Saturday, Breitbart News uncovered three reports and analysis written by Jonathan Gruber, an MIT economist and chief architect of Obamacare, stating that subsidies or tax credits will be provided to individuals “to purchase health insurance from private companies through state-organized exchanges.” These reports were discovered after a video clip surfaced of Gruber making similar comments on the clip. Gruber said his remarks were a "mistake" made while "speaking off-the-cuff." One of the three reports, titled “The Facts Straight on Health Care Reform,” was written by Gruber for The New England Journal of Medicine in December 2009. Breitbart has since

[Nachum]

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[Fantasywriter]

According to Newsbusters, Gruber made the same ‘speako’ seven times. As did Jonathan Cohn of the New Republic—one of Obamacare’s more enthusiastic cheerleaders. [I.e.: Cohn confirmed that the ‘deal’ for states to create their own exchanges was ‘too good’ to pass up, but he didn’t do it 7 times; just once]:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/pj-gladnick/2014/08/01/speaknado-new-republic-obamacare-truther-confession

[DannyTN]

Breitbart.com is making Andrew proud.

[Qiviut]

Why would the Obama administration and Obamacare supporters claim that the president’s health care law contained a “typo” stating only state exchanges are eligible for subsidies if the Obama administration itself used an article by Obamacare architect Gruber stating the exact opposite?

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Because they lie a lot ... about everything?!

With all this "Gruber" evidence coming out showing they really DID mean state exchanges when they said state exchanges, maybe the Supreme Court will find it harder to screw this one up .... than again, Roberts did a pretty good job twisting the law into a pretzel the last time he had a crack at it.

[Liz]

According to Newsbusters, Gruber speak-o'ed seven times WRT the exchanges.......and now calls it a "mistake."

Libber/Dummycrats have this slippery way of "forgetting" they ever said or did anything stupid.

Boobamba completely forgot he said "if you like your plan you can keep it."

Hillary's now-infamous "dead broke" comment...is all forgotten as she moves on to 2016.

[john mirse]

Poor Gruber, the main author of Obamacare law: This arrogant SOB got caught with his pants down not once but twice, and now he is trying to talk his way out of it and trying to save Obamacare at the same time. It was no typo error. Highly smart people and professors like Gruber don't make typo errors. Or speak-o errors,or writing errors.

1. Grubers: We have all met Grubers in our lives.

2. They believe that they are the smartest persons in the room.

3 No mistakes: But the main thing about them is this: They believe that they don't make mistakes like us ordinary humans, or they believe that they rarely make mistakes.

4. My point is this: Gruber did not make a mistake when he talked about how only State exchanges could apply for Obamacare subsidies, because he said it at least twice. He knew exactly what he was saying. He knew exactly what the law said, because he wrote it. No typo error or excuse for Gruber. No "I was heavily medicated when I wrote it."

5.We also know that the law went through several revisions and proofreadings before it was finally accepted. So there is strong proof that what we see in the law is exactly what Gruber and Obama wanted in the law: Every word. Every period. Every comma.

Sorry, Gruber, but you messed up bigtime. So be it.

6. Since he wrote the law, I bet that he is one of the few persons who has actually read every word over and over. He probably even memorized the whole damn thing.

7. I can hear know-it-all Gruber defending himself:"Who are you going to believe, me or your own lying eyes?"

8. I say this to Gruber and his partner in crime Obama: "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."

[Maceman]

This is impossible. It cannot be a mistake. Governments cannot make mistakes.

If they could make mistakes, then the people would need to limit the government's power, and place restrictions on what the people who run the government do.

But clearly, the people in government, such as our President, and Speaker of the House, and all those people who vote for legislation they've never read, have achieved some supernatural state of wisdom which enables them to manage every aspect of society without rebuke.

Isn't that what Nancy Pelosi was implying when she said: "We have to pass the bill so you can find out what's in it?"

Isn't that what Obama meant when he warned a new generation of college graduates to Reject Voices That Warn About Government Tyranny.

I think the world would be so much better off if we all just learned to sit down and shut up and let our brilliant rulers do what they think is best.

[InterceptPoint]

OK. It was a typo. The text of the bill should have included references to the Federal Exchange being allowed to provide subsidies to Obamacare plans.

So why are we in court when the remedy is simplicity itself - just amend the original bill.

Oops, that won't work so we need Plan B - just get some bought and paid for judge or two to make a ruling based on the intent of Congress.

That should work. And don't worry about CJ Roberts. He's paid for too.

[vg0va3]

Not the role of the court to care what legislators thought. If the legislators wanted Federal Exchanges in the law then it would have passed with it clearly spelled out in law.

As far as court concerned the meaning is within the text of the law. It is not the courts role to do what the legislators could not get enough votes to do on their own.

“The language of the statute is entirely clear, and if that is not what Congress meant, then Congress has made a mistake and Congress will have to correct it. We should not pretend to care about legislative intent (as opposed to the meaning of the law), lest we impose upon the practicing bar and their clients obligations that we do not ourselves take seriously.”...Justice Scalia CONROY v. ANISKOFF, 507 U.S. 511 (1993)

“The use of legislative history is the equivalent of entering a crowded cocktail party and looking over the heads of the guest for one’s friends”...Judge Harold Leventhal

[wxgesr]

Rules are for suckers......

[USMCPOP]

” and all those people who vote for legislation they’ve never read, have achieved some supernatural state of wisdom which enables them to manage every aspect of society without rebuke. “

That happens to me when I’ve had about 12 beers before eating all day.

[USMCPOP]

” and all those people who vote for legislation they’ve never read, have achieved some supernatural state of wisdom which enables them to manage every aspect of society without rebuke. “

That happens to me when I’ve had about 12 beers before eating all day.

[Graewoulf]

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