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U.S. plans to train, arm Ukraine National Guard in 2015
REUTERS ^ | 8-1-2014 | Missy Ryan

Posted on 08/01/2014 5:32:39 PM PDT by tcrlaf

The Obama administration has notified Congress of its plans to train and arm the Ukrainian national guard next year, the Pentagon said on Friday, as Washington continues to intensify its response to Moscow's support for rebels in eastern Ukraine.

"The Defense Department and State Department have notified Congress of our intent to use $19 million in global security contingency fund authority to train and equip four companies and one tactical headquarters of the Ukrainian national guard as part of their efforts to build their capacity for internal defense," Pentagon spokesman Rear Admiral John Kirby told reporters.

The training, which requires congressional approval, would occur at a location within Ukraine that hosts multilateral exercises, Kirby said. The trainers would be provided by U.S. Army Europe and by the California National Guard, he added

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: advisors; california; civilwar; mh17; russianukrainianwar; ukraine
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Wasn't there another war that quickly spun out of control after the US put boots on the ground as "Training Advisors"?
1 posted on 08/01/2014 5:32:39 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf

Clear act of war against Russia. What happens when the Rooskiis start killing our “trainers” and advisors?”


2 posted on 08/01/2014 5:38:53 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: tcrlaf

Whatever drugs the people who come up with this admin’s “project list” are on....don’t use them!

What a stupid, bonehead idea.

OTOH, I have to be somewhat thankful every time this admin works overseas. It means, for a day or two, he cannot screw up this country any more than he already has.


3 posted on 08/01/2014 5:39:21 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: tcrlaf

Shouldn’t we spend our money for training and arming border patrol agents on the US borders instead?


4 posted on 08/01/2014 5:40:09 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Timber Rattler
Clear act of war against Russia.

Clearly, and engaged from the sovereign territory of Ukraine. /s

5 posted on 08/01/2014 5:48:46 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: tcrlaf

Urkainapocalypse Now.


6 posted on 08/01/2014 5:50:37 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: tcrlaf

I don’t see how Putin would allow this.


7 posted on 08/01/2014 5:58:01 PM PDT by McGruff (Seems like some are more interested in protecting Ukraine's border than ours.)
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To: tcrlaf
Wasn't there another war that quickly spun out of control after the US put boots on the ground as "Training Advisors"?

Obmamma is an idiot...He want to appear strong for his stinking legacy while the US is broke, lawless and totally divided.

Like all these other D.C. schemes and corrupt adventures, this will not end well, bet the rent.

8 posted on 08/01/2014 6:09:52 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Innovative

If Obama’s border patrol training works for the Ukrainians as it has worked for us on the southwestern border, the Russians and their children will be pouring across the border in droves.


9 posted on 08/01/2014 6:15:55 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: tcrlaf
Wasn't there another war that quickly spun out of control after the US put boots on the ground as "Training Advisors"?

Where?

10 posted on 08/01/2014 6:16:38 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Timber Rattler
Clear act of war against Russia.

So then patrolling our southwestern border is a what -- an act of war against Mexico???

11 posted on 08/01/2014 6:18:50 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: tcrlaf

Do you have a problem with a nation patrolling its borders — or just a problem with Ukraine patrolling its border with Russia???


12 posted on 08/01/2014 6:21:05 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: tcrlaf
The trainers would be provided by U.S. Army Europe and by the California National Guard

That's an interesting combination.

13 posted on 08/01/2014 6:21:27 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Uncle Chip
Do you have a problem with a nation patrolling its borders — or just a problem with Ukraine patrolling its border with Russia?

You have to ask?

14 posted on 08/01/2014 6:23:43 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: tcrlaf

Why would we support insurgents that overthrew a fairly elected government ? ( oops we did that in Egypt too!!! SHHHH)


15 posted on 08/01/2014 6:29:15 PM PDT by rlapuma
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To: 1rudeboy

Somebody had to — and unfortunately I drew the short straw.


16 posted on 08/01/2014 6:37:57 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

And now, a popular revolution is being equated with the Muslim Brotherhood. Figures.


17 posted on 08/01/2014 6:44:05 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: tcrlaf

American patriots are going to help Ukrainian patriots kill savage stupid Russian thugs. Those who support our Russian enemies are traitors to the USA and they should leave the USA and go to Russia where they belong.


18 posted on 08/01/2014 6:44:51 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Uncle Chip; tcrlaf
Do you have a problem with a nation patrolling its borders

I don't, but since ya brought it up, why does your own government refuse to do this? Why do they aid and abet the criminals instead?

For decades Americans have begged, protested, voted, petitioned, volunteered and demanded relief from this epic violent invasion...Of course we were just lied to, hoodwinked, and betrayed year after year.

19 posted on 08/01/2014 6:48:38 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

lol!!

You guys and your insane hatred is quite hilarious.

So, we are supposed to just forget EVERYTHING Obama has done, the enemies of America he has helped, and all of the lies he has told, and blindly follow him on this ONE subject, and this ONE subject alone, despite everything in evidence???

I want some of YOUR drugs, dude!!

(PS-Nice try at the “Wrapping—in-the-flag Ad Hominem BS)


20 posted on 08/01/2014 6:48:59 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

That’s pretty slick, accusing someone who doesn’t exhibit the same amount of manlove for Vladi that you do of ignoring what Obama has done.


21 posted on 08/01/2014 6:54:12 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: dragnet2

We have too many in this country who want a fluid open border unfortunately.

The Ukraine probably had the same thing with Russia for years and now look at what they have — the immigrant nation rising up to take away the eastern provinces

Arizona and south Texas and southern California — wake up and see your future.


22 posted on 08/01/2014 6:54:22 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Tailgunner Joe; tcrlaf
American patriots are going to help Ukrainian patriots kill savage stupid Russian thugs.

Off to fight another country's wars again?

Who's going to pay for this? The U.S. money printing machines are smoking and burning through the floors.

What happens when American bodies are being boxed up again and shipped home? Should we bomb Moscow? Declare Russia a no fly zone? Send more troops?

23 posted on 08/01/2014 6:54:54 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Uncle Chip

I have no idea what all the meant.


24 posted on 08/01/2014 6:56:45 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 1rudeboy

Yet another of the willful ignorance crowd chimes in. Not surprising. Have you volunteered for the duty, yet?


25 posted on 08/01/2014 6:56:56 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

No, I don’t speak Russian [hint]. Pick your side and go.


26 posted on 08/01/2014 6:58:02 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Uncle Chip
We have too many in this country who want a fluid open border unfortunately.

I guess that would include the US Government. The same one's now suggesting we send troops to protect the borders of other countries. No?

27 posted on 08/01/2014 6:59:57 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 1rudeboy

I did pick a side. AMERICA’S...

And that doesn’t happen to be the same as Obama, Ukraine, OR Russia. But you act like you don’t know that. YOUR purpose is quite clear, to troll and silence any opposition to the Official Kiev propaganda.

Now, do you have anything to add about the CONTENTS OF THE ARTICLE? Or are you just trolling again?


28 posted on 08/01/2014 7:01:02 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

I wonder how many of these folks supporting sending troops to other countries to protect their borders, are actually military veterans or are aware of what is happening right here, right now?

This irony here is stupifing....My made up word...lol


29 posted on 08/01/2014 7:03:02 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

If you check the posting histories, you’ll find they only have one purpose, especially the recently born-on ID’s.

Astro-turfing is alive and well on FR, it seems.


30 posted on 08/01/2014 7:06:26 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

So sorry, I’ll be silent, and wait for your unsourced tweets from RT. Comrade.


31 posted on 08/01/2014 7:07:39 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: dragnet2

I wonder how many of our alleged vets on this internet forum are simply wannabe pantywaists?


32 posted on 08/01/2014 7:09:20 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Sorry I don’t share your deep concern and support for sending US troops to protect the borders of other countries.

My concern right now is for the U.S., it’s escalating corrupt controlling government, it’s reckless country killing spending habits, our borders, our safety, our security and our economy right here.


33 posted on 08/01/2014 7:14:41 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

And I fondly remember when the U.S. could walk and chew gum at the same time.


34 posted on 08/01/2014 7:16:08 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: tcrlaf

I support the American soldiers who are loyal to the USA and are going to help our Ukrainian allies fight our Russian enemies. That’s not insane and it’s not hatred. Your adoration and love for our enemies is insane and your hatred for American soldiers is revolting.

Leave the USA. Go to Russia where you belong.


35 posted on 08/01/2014 7:18:10 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: 1rudeboy

Your description or war and death and sending US troops to protect the borders of other countries, is quite interesting.


36 posted on 08/01/2014 7:21:01 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Blah, blah, blah...
Same Bovine excrement, different day. You just love name-calling, and pigeon-holing.

Yet, I can’t help but notice that YOU aren’t volunteering to go fight for the coup, that you support. Now why is that, do you imagine?


37 posted on 08/01/2014 7:25:29 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: dragnet2

Don’t know what you mean by that, and I don’t think you know, either . . . but this conversation reminds me of Ronald Reagan.


38 posted on 08/01/2014 7:28:05 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: tcrlaf

I notice YOU are not volunteering to fight for the Russian scum you support. You love the genocidal Putin dictatorship but you sure don’t want to live there.


39 posted on 08/01/2014 8:06:58 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: dragnet2
sending US troops to protect the borders of other countries

Did you even bother to read the article.

It says the US is going to "to train and arm the Ukrainian national guard next year" -- not send troops to protect their borders.

You do know that there is a difference or maybe you don't???

40 posted on 08/01/2014 8:15:01 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Well sure...Sending our military into a war zone to train and arm other people is perfectly safe and trouble free...Walk in the park no doubt.


41 posted on 08/01/2014 8:21:45 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Uncle Chip

BTW, the Obama administration appreciates your support Chip!


42 posted on 08/01/2014 8:23:41 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Only the eastern two provinces is a war zone —

You never can seem to get it right.

BTW Vlad and the comrades at the Kremlin send their regards and welcome you to the Borschdt Brigade at FR.


43 posted on 08/01/2014 8:28:10 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
Only the eastern two provinces is a war zone

Like I told ya, what could go wrong when we send our troops to train and arm foreign troops in foreign lands, in other foreign countries who happen to be at war? It's perfectly safe and nothing could possibly escalate and tumble down range out of control.

Isn't that correct Mr. right?

44 posted on 08/01/2014 8:46:03 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Uncle Chip

Sorry I don’t share your deep concern and support for sending US troops to assist and protect the borders of other countries. That’s what this is really about no?

My concern right now is for the U.S., it’s escalating corrupt controlling government, it’s reckless country killing spending habits, our borders, our safety, our security and our economy right here.

Will you be joining the military to serve this administrations latest foreign policy endeavor Chip?


45 posted on 08/01/2014 8:50:17 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Uncle Chip

I’m not sure about the Borscht Brigade thing. Paultard, maybe.


46 posted on 08/01/2014 8:51:01 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Uncle Chip
We have too many in this country who want a fluid open border unfortunately.

I guess that would include the US Government right Chip?

The same government which is now suggesting we send troops to assist and protect the borders of other countries.

No?

??

47 posted on 08/01/2014 8:54:53 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 1rudeboy

He is a Paultard but notice how he falls right in line with the Borschdt Brigade.


48 posted on 08/01/2014 9:01:12 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: dragnet2

Been hitting the sauce a little heavy or is that the weed —


49 posted on 08/01/2014 9:02:21 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

I see, boy rude calls names and you suggest I’m drunk...

lol.....

You guys make a lousy tag team...


50 posted on 08/01/2014 9:04:51 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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