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Why Isn't There a Treatment or Vaccine for Ebola?
CBS8 ^ | Aug 01, 2014 | Maria Cheng

Posted on 08/02/2014 2:04:14 AM PDT by nickcarraway

SNIP

And while Ebola is lethal, it's rare. Outbreaks are unpredictable, giving doctors few chances to test new treatments. While the current epidemic is the largest recorded, the number of people sickened by Ebola is small compared to the number killed by other diseases like malaria or dengue. Much of the funding for Ebola research is from governments that worry about the virus being used in a bioterror attack.

"It's not economically viable for any company to do this kind of research because they have stockholders to think about," said Ben Neuman, a virologist at the University of Reading in Britain.

There are about a half dozen Ebola drugs and vaccines in development, several of which have received funding from the U.S. One drug developed by the U.S. Army has shown promising results when tested in monkeys.

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1 posted on 08/02/2014 2:04:14 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

theres treatment if they catch it early. last i read the mortality rate for this outbreak is 56%.


2 posted on 08/02/2014 2:06:13 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: wiggen

Nanoviricides has a cure in the research stage.


3 posted on 08/02/2014 2:16:57 AM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: wiggen

That’s still far higher then the Black Death of the Middle Ages, or the Spanish Influenza in 1918.


4 posted on 08/02/2014 2:24:35 AM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: nickcarraway

One reason we don’t see more rare diseases addressed is that the FDA and American laws to “protect” people makes all medical research prohibitively expensive. So, we only see research into areas where there is the possibility of huge profits. Vaccines in general only offer one opportunity for “treatment” and that is prevention. There isn’t a lot of money in prevention. Also adding to the cost is that various testing companies have lobbied and gotten their proprietary process included in the approval process by law. Now they can charge whatever they want as they have an exclusive path to approval. This is not some wild conspiracy theory this is simply a fact.


5 posted on 08/02/2014 2:31:43 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather
You can be sure that Obamacare will ultimately have a devastating effect on research and development. And if we do eventually go to single payer, as the communists want, there will be no research at all.
6 posted on 08/02/2014 2:51:13 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: fatnotlazy

“And if we do eventually go to single payer, as the communists want, there will be no research at all.”

Which will no doubt leave China and Russia as the “world leaders” in medical innovation and health care technology. Thanks Barry, you are a true visionary.


7 posted on 08/02/2014 2:55:50 AM PDT by Artie (We are surrounded by MORONS)
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To: fatnotlazy

As someone has already pointed out, research has already degenerated into pure profit motive. This is one thing Obamacare can’t hurt.

The good old days of Salk are long gone.


8 posted on 08/02/2014 3:00:59 AM PDT by sakic
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To: sakic

when did our noblesse and idealism begin to wane ... the 50’s ?


9 posted on 08/02/2014 3:50:22 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...

Ping...


10 posted on 08/02/2014 3:51:26 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: nickcarraway

Ebola breaks out in a western country, and watch how fast they come up with a vaccine.


11 posted on 08/02/2014 4:00:50 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: nickcarraway

I am sure in the next few days MSNBC will have the answer to this question.
Since ebola is a disease that originated and is for the most part confined to sub Saharan Africa, there is only one answer;
RACISM


12 posted on 08/02/2014 4:03:08 AM PDT by Tupelo (I am feeling more like Phillip Nolan by the day.)
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To: sakic

Polio impacted thousands per year. There was a NEED for a vaccine.

Ebola has never been an issue in the US.

Why would there be a big push for a cure.?


13 posted on 08/02/2014 4:03:29 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: nickcarraway

Why isn’t there a cure for the common cold?


14 posted on 08/02/2014 4:11:56 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Kerry, as Obama's plenipotentiary, is a paradox - the physical presence of a geopolitical absence")
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To: knarf

Perhaps when we turned our back on God & took Him out of the classroom.


15 posted on 08/02/2014 4:16:01 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: Vermont Lt

“Why would there be a big push for a cure.?”

Absolutely right. There is no money to be made where most Ebola outbreaks occur, so no need for the pharma coumpanies to push for one.


16 posted on 08/02/2014 4:29:56 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: knarf

> when did our noblesse and idealism begin to wane ... the 50’s ?

I’d blame the hippies and anti-war scum of the 60s who are now all grown up and staying with their liberal beliefs.


17 posted on 08/02/2014 4:32:52 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Unarmed people cannot defend themselves. America is no longer a Free Country.)
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To: BuffaloJack
I was there ... but I didn't stay ... a lot of us are HERE, now.

But I never lambaste anyone for that view ... witness x42.

I knew, when I learned about him, he and his old lady were no good and probably SDS trsined.

18 posted on 08/02/2014 4:42:37 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: nickcarraway

1. Ebola does not occur frequently enough to make development of vaccines or antivirals cost effective for any company. This is why the few drug candidates that have been developed were developed with government funding.

2. It is impossible to efficacy test Ebola drugs in humans. They can be safety tested, but no one would volunteer for an efficacy study, which involves exposure to a quantity of virus sufficient to cause disease.

3. The FDA animal rule states that if an animal model for the disease exists and has been shown to be identical to the human disease, animal efficacy data can be submitted in lieu of human efficacy data for regulatory purposes. This sounds nice, but animal study results often differ from human study results. Plus, enough human data must exist to know that the animal data is a close enough proxy—and with Ebola being so rare, how do we collect that human data?


19 posted on 08/02/2014 5:15:33 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Gen.Blather

It’s not just that, many of the drugs developed have horrible side effects. That a few years after going to market they are given FDA warning labels. And there is the money factor. No money in developing a drug for a “orphan disease” that effects a few thousand a year. You also have ‘orphan’ diseases that are not contagious, Fibromyalgia, FMS, 30 yrs ago it was called a syndrome, or the patient needed a shrink. They treat the symptoms not the disease, the treatment mimics the disease.

Now they are pushing the crappy side effect riddled Lyrica or Gabapentin Lyrica anti-epileptic http://www.rxlist.com/lyrica-side-effects-drug-center.htm

Often used beside Lyrica.

Gabapentin Side Effects http://www.rxlist.com/neurontin-side-effects-drug-center.htm

NEW TO MARKET
Savella http://www.rxlist.com/savella-side-effects-drug-center.htm

FDA Warning Savella
http://www.fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/SafetyInformation/ucm203615.htm

http://www.fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/SafetyInformation/ucm203615.htm

Look at the Nexium commercial do you hear the words Bone Density causing drug or Barret’s Esophagus? Long term use of these acid blocking drugs are responsible for that. So before you reach for that new OTC drug be sure to check it out the side effects.

Take the current crop of OP drugs. Please NOTE, I have OP, have reacted to Fosamax. Refuse the rest because of the reaction and the FDA warnings. My doctor is limited to 1 bone density test per 2 yrs. I have opted to go the Holistic route with bone vitamin and mineral route, after all that is what your bones are made of, not some stinking side effect riddled FDA warning drug that causes Kidney Failure Deaths, A Fib, Jaw Degeneration, GI and Bone Pain, Reclast is the worst of these drugs, as 1 IV never leaves your system.

OP DRUGS

Reclast UPS kidney failure, A FIB risk.
http://www.webmd.com/osteoporosis/news/20110901/fda-osteoporsis-drug_ups-kidney-failure-risk

Safety update for osteoporosis drugs, bisphosphonates, and atypical fractures
http://www.fda.gov/drugs/drugsafety/drugsafetypodcasts/ucm229800.htm

Black box warning Foreto
http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=21853

Like most useful medications, Forteo may have its possible downside. In animals, it promotes the development of osteosarcoma, a type of bone cancer. In humans, osteosarcoma has not been reported but it remains a concern with Forteo. (The daily injections are also a downside.)

These are patient discussion boards. Tons of complaints on the side effects of the drugs ruing their lives.

http://www.inspire.com/groups/national-osteoporosis-foundation/discussion/forteo-black-box-warning-and-fda-testimony/

Mrs. Makwa’s OP death was horrible.
http://www.inspire.com/makwa/


20 posted on 08/02/2014 5:29:56 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: sakic

Big Pharma will research what O’care tells them to, or no grants.

People seem to forget the incestuous relationship of Big Pharma, Congress and the FDA. And you can add in the doctors pushing the latest most expensive drug on the market as a Wonder drug. Only to have it FDA black boxed warning a few years down the road when people start having life threatening reactions. How many people have to die before the drugs are yanked from the market? How many people have to develop A Fib that did not have it before the drug is yanked? VICIOUS CIRCLE.


21 posted on 08/02/2014 5:36:29 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: exDemMom
"They can be safety tested, but no one would volunteer for an efficacy study, which involves exposure to a quantity of virus sufficient to cause disease."

In the spirit of redemption, I would be ok with a program allowing those in prison with life sentences to volunteer as test subjects with the possibility of a commutation or pardon.

They would have to be made fully cognizant of the known risks and voluntarily choose to accept them, and the tests would have to be carefully monitored by an independent party to ensure they were not being conducted gratuitously or inhumanely. The subjects would have to be psychologically screened as well to make as certain as possible that their participation was in the spirit of atonement and willingness to sacrifice for the good of society and that their participation was not merely an extension of the risk driven aspects of their personality that got them into prison in the first place.

In short, if you have a prisoner who is facing a life sentence, who has shown genuine remorse and is willing to place his/her life on the line in the spirit of serving their fellow man, and some guarantor that the tests will be administered in a responsible and ethical manner, then there should be a mechanism in place to permit the clinical trials with the possibility of a commutation or pardon at the end of it (given that they survive).

22 posted on 08/02/2014 5:38:07 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Vermont Lt

like wwe did for HIV? One of the most political hot potato diseases with everyone looking for a vaccine or cure? Its taken 30 years to get viable treatment. We cant solve everything instantly with a wave of the wand

And TB which we thought we had beaten is now back with drug resistant strains that defy treatment. We have been working on that one over 100 years. Sometimes the bugs win.....


23 posted on 08/02/2014 5:43:51 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: GailA

The natural course of life is to be dead by 40. For most people if you want to live longer that requires medical intervention. Yes drugs have side effects, but the benefits more than outweigh the side effects, unless you are a lawyer. we all die of something, if you choose to do it naturally at 30 or 40 God bless you, I would like to see my grandchildren grow up. I take my blood pressure meds.


24 posted on 08/02/2014 5:48:15 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: nickcarraway

Killing any Ebola virus would be racis’.


25 posted on 08/02/2014 6:16:10 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: NonValueAdded

Why isn’t there a cure for “cancer”?


26 posted on 08/02/2014 6:17:24 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: nickcarraway

Before we get outraged about “why we don’t have personal jet packs yet”, it’s important to look at this from a different perspective.

1) Viruses are the most abundant form of life in the world, of which there are likely more “species” than there are species of animals and plants. Maybe even more than animals, plants and bacteria. In total numbers, there are wildly estimated to be 10^31 individual viruses in the world, which is more than stars in the known universe.

2) About half of known viruses are bacteriophage, which mean they prey on bacteria. And in the world viruses and all other forms of life have been engaged in natural selection since they first came about.

3) This being said, pick a pathogenic virus, just one kind, and ask “How soon can we develop a vaccine against it?”


27 posted on 08/02/2014 6:17:52 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Paladin2

Why isn’t there a cure for rampant liberalism other than a shot of .308?


28 posted on 08/02/2014 6:21:27 AM PDT by bill1952 (taxes don't hurt the rich, they keep YOU from becoming rich.)
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To: nickcarraway

And it’s on its way to Atlanta!


29 posted on 08/02/2014 6:28:48 AM PDT by Blue Turtle
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To: Tupelo

If it gets completely out of control with Africans dying by the thousands you can guarantee the black Africans will blame the white man and every white will have a choice of flee Africa or be killed.


30 posted on 08/02/2014 6:40:38 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: GailA

I don’t believe that the current FDA rules and regulations are oriented towards consumer safety so much as they are the result of lobbying by labs and producers to get their product approved. (Lobbying=money to politicians.)


31 posted on 08/02/2014 6:46:32 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: nickcarraway; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; ...
Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

32 posted on 08/02/2014 6:47:27 AM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
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To: nickcarraway
Why Isn't There a Treatment or Vaccine for Ebola?

Because it's caused by a virus, just like everything else we can't cure.

33 posted on 08/02/2014 6:52:33 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: exDemMom
I worked for five years at a pharmaceutical company in Baltimore as a payroll and accounts payable manager. The company only had one FDA approved drug during the time I worked there, a wafer designed to be implanted at Glioblastoma brain tumor sites and directly deliver chemotherapy drugs. It was a major development in treating that horrible and fatal brain cancer but that had a very limited use and it only slowed down the disease and was not a “cure”. They had several other drugs in various stages of development and clinical trials, some very promising like a new surgical sedative and an injectible drug for stopping heart attacks in progress and those and others in the pipeline had a greater potential for wider use and hence a stream of revenue. But the founders of this company were themselves neurosurgeons and former brain cancer researchers from Johns Hopkins and while they wanted the company to make money and understandably make money for themselves, they were also very deeply, passionately and very personally interested in and invested in treating and one day perhaps finding a cure for Glioblastoma multiforme.

What amazed me when I started working there was the actual costs involved in getting a drug from an idea in the lab to extensive lab testing to animal testing and the costs of even getting to preliminary clinical trials. Not to mention the cost of specialized lab equipment, clean rooms, etc. and the number of people involved and their wages. I used to manage weekly accounts payable check runs and it was not unusual for them to be over a million dollars sometimes with me cutting checks or performing wire transfers for $500k or more at a time to companies, some overseas in the UK and Netherlands who were performing primate and “beagle”, i.e. dog animal trials for us (evidently it was more cost effective and less restrictive than using US firms and yes, I winced at the thought of the animal trials but fully understood the necessity of it) and the human trials were also extremely expensive and were outsourced to independent companies in order to keep them “objective” and at "arms lenth" and also with another separate firm performing the independent analysis and tracking, all as IIRC, was required by the FDA.

And our semi-monthly payroll was well over a million dollars per pay and we were a rather small company – only about 300 people meaning the average salary was about 100k per year (although while I was making a very good salary, I was nowhere near that : ), ).

We had only a small animal lab with only mice and rats and even then, because of the animal rights activists, the eco-animal “rights” terrorists who had made threats, we had very tight security and armed guards at all the main entrances.

I remember one day processing an invoice for something called a “small mouse head impactor” and I asked one of the chief scientists who I’d become friendly with, just what is a “small mouse head impactor” and he told me it was basically a device that would neatly and effectively crack open the skull of a small mouse without damaging the underlying structures and brain. “Cool” I said and he offered to let me come into the animal lab with him one day to watch how it worked. Unfortunately I never had the opportunity to do that. : (

Most people and evidently many here, have no idea what the upfront costs are in developing a new drug or vaccine and the fact that many never get out of the lab or those that get out of the lab testing, out of animal testing, live alone making it to human clinical trials, often they end up not getting FDA approval and the whole process starts all over again without those costs ever being recouped.

And FWIW, the pharma I worked for was bleeding cash and one of the few things keeping us afloat, aside from the brain tumor wafer sales which did not cover our operating costs, was the contract work we were doing for the NIH and even with that we had a 20% reduction of force, i.e. a big layoff. A few years after I left, after one failed merger and another hostile takeover attempt, they were bought out by another bigger pharma and that happened because they just plain ran out of money to continue to operate.

The so called “big (evil) pharmas” make money because they are so large and diverse and have many profitable drugs and products in general use. With that, they can reinvest in new research in sometimes in novel drugs with limited market sale potential but even then there are limits in what these companies, with their shareholders and employees, are willing to invest in a product that will lose them money.

This is why the few drug candidates that have been developed were developed with government funding.

R&D costs money and a whole lot of it and very few researchers, biologists, biochemical scientists and even non-scientist, us lowly payroll/accounts payable mangers are willing to work for nothing or volunteer their time to develop a drug with limited use and no profit potential, so someone has to pay for it. This is one area where I think government funding is a worthwhile endeavor.

34 posted on 08/02/2014 7:14:31 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: Joe 6-pack

I think such experiments were conducted in the past. But in the current ethical climate, I doubt any such research proposal would get past an IRB (institutional [ethical] review board). In fact, the rules for using prisoners in research are far more stringent than those for using other volunteers.

Interestingly, my supervisor said much the same as you yesterday, when I explained why there is so much difficulty in getting drugs for rare diseases (like Ebola) approved.


35 posted on 08/02/2014 8:04:34 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom

And yet there are compounds that have shown effectivness POST exposure to ebola.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24583123

That particular compound is already in phase III clinical trials as an anti-influenza drug.


36 posted on 08/02/2014 8:07:04 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: MD Expat in PA
Interesting perspective, thank you.

My perspective comes from reading countless articles on drug development, so I know a lot about it but I don't have that insider's appreciation of the subject. I chose a different career pathway because I did *not* want to work for pharmaceutical companies (sorry, it just isn't my thing).

R&D costs money and a whole lot of it and very few researchers, biologists, biochemical scientists and even non-scientist, us lowly payroll/accounts payable mangers are willing to work for nothing or volunteer their time to develop a drug with limited use and no profit potential, so someone has to pay for it. This is one area where I think government funding is a worthwhile endeavor.

Indeed. I find it a bit worrisome that even on this nominatively conservative website, so many people condemn the pharmaceutical companies for making "huge" profits. They see only the gross company incomes and high prices of new drugs, but have no idea of the costs of developing and testing those drugs, or that for every drug that makes it through clinical trials, dozens of others had to be abandoned with no return on the investment into their development. It costs to train the PhD scientists to develop the drugs, and there are not that many people with the intellectual ability to be educated to that level. Plus, graduate school... ugh... no one would go through all that and then volunteer to work pro bono. Besides, all of those highly trained scientists have to live, eat, and wear clothes, none of which comes free. In any case, what's wrong with wanting to profit from one's work?

I remember one day processing an invoice for something called a “small mouse head impactor” ... it was basically a device that would neatly and effectively crack open the skull of a small mouse without damaging the underlying structures and brain.

Sounds handy. I remember opening mouse heads with forceps for one experiment... it was rather messy. I prefer not to do animal work, though.

37 posted on 08/02/2014 8:24:47 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Black Agnes

Yep, that one is further along than most, but for a different disease. Most of the other drugs have not been efficacy tested in humans at all, for any indication.

It is so terrible, that patients can only receive supportive care. It does seem to help, since the death rate from this outbreak is “only” about 60%, which is significantly lower than that seen in other outbreaks—up to 90%.


38 posted on 08/02/2014 8:32:12 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Black Agnes

Yep, that one is further along than most, but for a different disease. Most of the other drugs have not been efficacy tested in humans at all, for any indication.

It is so terrible, that patients can only receive supportive care. It does seem to help, since the death rate from this outbreak is “only” about 60%, which is significantly lower than that seen in other outbreaks—up to 90%.


39 posted on 08/02/2014 8:32:12 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Paladin2

Why is there air?


40 posted on 08/02/2014 9:43:01 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Kerry, as Obama's plenipotentiary, is a paradox - the physical presence of a geopolitical absence")
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To: BuffaloJack; knarf

It ain’t no joke I’d like to buy the world a toke
And teach the world to sing in perfect harmony
And teach the world to snuff the fires and the liars
Hey I know it’s just a song but it’s spice for the recipe
This is a love attack I know it went out but it’s back.
It’s just like any fad it retracts before impact
And just like fashion it’s a passion for the with it and hip
If you got the goods they’ll come and buy it just to stay in the clique

Twenty-five years ago they spoke out and they broke out
Of recession and oppression and together they toked
And they folked out with guitars around a bonfire
Just singin’ and clappin’ man what the hell happened
Then some were spellbound some were hellbound
Some they fell down and some got back up and
Fought back ‘gainst the melt down
And their kids were hippie chicks all hypocrites
Because fashion is smashin’ the true meaning of it

It ain’t no joke when a mama’s handkerchief is soaked
With her tears because her baby’s life has been revoked
The bond is broke up so choke up and focus on the close up
Mr. Wizard can’t perform no godlike hocus-pocus
So don’t sit back kick back and watch the world get bushwhacked

News at 10:00 your neighborhood is under attack
Put away the crack before the crack puts you away
You need to be there when your baby’s old enough to relate

(SMASH MOUTH - Walkin on the Sun)


41 posted on 08/02/2014 10:03:42 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: nickcarraway

There is no cure for any virus... including the common cold.

We can only prevent or hinder growth via treatments to allow our own immune system to fight it as it was designed to.


42 posted on 08/02/2014 10:10:25 AM PDT by Safrguns (PM me if you like to play Minecraft!)
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To: IMR 4350
So.... when will Oprah be taking a trip back to her homeland ?

You know,,, the one where her ancestor was a Zulu Princess.

43 posted on 08/02/2014 10:11:57 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: exDemMom

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=favipiravir++ebola

Ebola Zaire.

If you were an African who had contracted e. Zaire would you particularly care if it were a ‘mouse model’ study?


44 posted on 08/02/2014 10:25:14 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: exDemMom
since the death rate from this outbreak is “only” about 60%, which is significantly lower than that seen in other outbreaks—up to 90%.

I've read the 'low' death rate is because the infection is spreading: many new cases in the denominator haven't had it long enough to die and show up in the numerator.

45 posted on 08/02/2014 10:35:04 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: sakic

There’s actually tons of research going on not for profit into ebola and things like it. Right here, in America, there’s plenty of Salks still out there. Some diseases though are just too nasty to cure, especially species jumpers like ebola.


46 posted on 08/02/2014 10:35:22 AM PDT by discostu (Villains always blink their eyes.)
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To: Vermont Lt

There’s BEEN a break out in America. Still no vaccine. Not everything is curable.


47 posted on 08/02/2014 10:35:47 AM PDT by discostu (Villains always blink their eyes.)
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To: nickcarraway
"It's not economically viable for any company to do this kind of research because they have stockholders to think about," said Ben Neuman, a virologist at the University of Reading in Britain.

Ummmmmmmmm..........dummy comment..

Has nothing to do with stockholders, it has to do with recouping research and production costs. (not that finding a cure for this crap is easy and stockholders forbid it, lol)

Both Britain and the US, and nearly every other Western nation to some degree or another has a Sovereign publically funded agency, complete with the most up-to-date labs and some of the smartest people on the planet..(so they say)

It is the function of these tax paid entities to deal with issues like this. Largely because some has to pay for it, and it certainly will not be Africa or the Ebola prone regimes.

So it's not stockholders holding the process hostage as he indicated, it's the government failure. His own government since he is the one offering such sage analysis.

48 posted on 08/02/2014 10:48:04 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: GailA

All drugs appear to have side effects, even the most widely used drugs.

You are ingesting a foreign chemical...

What could go wrong...?


49 posted on 08/02/2014 10:51:39 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: Cold Heat

A lot, and yes I know all drugs and herbs have side effects. Wild Yam and Black Cohosh have the same GI side effects of HRT drugs.

I’m a prime example. My reaction sheet is a full type written page long, with all the Cholesterol, HRT, OA, OP and several similar drugs listed as a batch. If I react to 1, I will react to all in that class. My body sees most drugs as poison.


50 posted on 08/02/2014 12:58:28 PM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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