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IT WASN'T PRETTY, BUT IT WORKED: HOW THE RIGHT WON THE SUMMER IMMIGRATION SKIRMISH
Breitbart Big Government ^ | August 1,2014 | CAROLINE MAY & MATTHEW BOYLE

Posted on 08/02/2014 7:17:19 AM PDT by Hojczyk

Bachmann was similarly pleased with the the GOP’s new unity on the full immigration package. "I was a 'hell no,' and now I can be for this bill today," Bachmann told reporters.

“We completely gutted the bill, we changed the bill. It is nothing like it was yesterday,” Bachmann explained, saying the bill is "far better today than it was yesterday.” She further credited the American people’s willingness to call their representatives for the turnaround.

“The voice of the commo-sense, reasonable American who just wants to have our border secure, who don't want to have all these inducements to bringing illegal foreign nationals into the country with great consequences for the people who live here — their voices were heard,” Bachmann said. “It's because they melted the phone lines in the last few days that everyone got together and we got a much better bill. One that I can easily get behind.

"But the new united GOP front against the Democrats’ immigration stance caused worry and chaos in the ranks on the left.

“A unified bold conservative alternative to the open borders radicals is the biggest threat to the Democrat Party,” conservative activist Daniel Horowitz, who fought aggressively on this matter, told Breitbart News. “Their extremism was on display for all of middle America to see today. The message emanating from the entire Democrat Party is that we don’t deserve to have borders or sovereignty. These used to be bedrock bipartisan values, but the Democrats have been taken over by extremists. This image will hurt them with the broad electorate in November.” The Democrats went haywire in support of amnesty throughout the day Friday after the House GOP unified around the new conservative strategy.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens

1 posted on 08/02/2014 7:17:19 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

Bttt


2 posted on 08/02/2014 7:18:38 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Hojczyk

Most legal immigrants want all the illegals deported..


3 posted on 08/02/2014 7:18:42 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk
Countdown until Freepers call her a RINO...

3...2...1...

4 posted on 08/02/2014 7:19:08 AM PDT by paul544
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To: Hojczyk
Most legal immigrants want all the illegals deported..

Then why don't they speak up? It sure would help.

6 posted on 08/02/2014 7:28:15 AM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: Hojczyk

Yup.

‘If you want to come in, then get in line, legally.’


7 posted on 08/02/2014 7:29:16 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Hojczyk

The House did it’s job — the vote proved that.

Now they just have to defend it and it is defendable in its entirety.

And if Obama says it’s not enough then tell him the House can add a few thousand more dollars to it if he wishes.


8 posted on 08/02/2014 7:35:29 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: paul544

LOL! Hysterical - you are so right. I’ve only started to read the comments, but I’m sure the outrage of the extreme purists will be intense.


9 posted on 08/02/2014 7:36:05 AM PDT by Dave W
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To: MRourke85; paul544

Paul - the very next comment even.


10 posted on 08/02/2014 7:37:20 AM PDT by Dave W
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To: MRourke85
This is Chess not Checkers.

A great many Democrat politicians have played both sides of this issue for a very long time. They tell their construction Union base that they oppose open borders and that they oppose amnesty. Then those same Dems kiss up to La Raza and their own leadership.

Yes it will be painful, but this summer has put the US Chamber of Commerce in its place on immigration, and it has freed the GOP to set the agenda.

11 posted on 08/02/2014 7:39:36 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Hojczyk
Most legal immigrants want all the illegals deported..

Only about one-quarter (24%) of Hispanic adults say they most often identify themselves by “Hispanic” or “Latino,” according to a new nationwide survey of Hispanic adults by the Pew Hispanic Center, a project of the Pew Research Center. About half (51%) say they identify themselves most often by their family’s country or place of origin—using such terms as Mexican, Cuban, Puerto Rican, Salvadoran or Dominican. And 21% say they use the term “American” most often to describe themselves. The share rises to 40% among those who were born in the U.S.


12 posted on 08/02/2014 7:40:38 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Hojczyk
This bill does seem to be a victory. The pres is still saying that the HOR is the problem. How can he be serious? The HOR passed a bill before going on vacation. The US Senate did not. The President isn't sticking around to do his work. The RINOs in the HOR got on board (probably to go on their vacations)

It's a victory for conservatives. Who knows what the Pres and the US Senate backstabbers will do? But if the HOR keeps this up, they can do the constitutional thing and not fund things that didn't originate with them.

13 posted on 08/02/2014 7:44:01 AM PDT by grania
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To: Hojczyk

The hoards Obama has allowed to flood our border may produce a backlash in one of the Democrats most loyal base, African Americans. They see these illegals as taking away their jobs, welfare benefits and eventually their political power.


14 posted on 08/02/2014 7:50:36 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: The Great RJ

Interesting thought.

Of course right now the entitlements flow without restriction, so the gravy is abundant for all. Incoming hispanic family A doesn’t really reduce the payout for existing black family B. But eventually that fake money will be discovered for the fraud it is.

Politically I’m not sure, both blacks and hispanics are solid Democrat supporters.


15 posted on 08/02/2014 7:53:53 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: Hojczyk

About the only difference between legal and illegal, is that the legals get to vote for more immigration through the democrat party, quicker.


16 posted on 08/02/2014 8:28:06 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Hojczyk

“Most legal immigrants want all the illegals deported..”

Not from any poll that I was able to find. They are about 65/35 against deporting Illegals. I suspect that much of it is due to having illegal family (and extended family) members. They also do support Amnesty, but don’t consider it a big deal as long as people aren’t being rounded up.

What they are against, for sure, is OPEN BORDERS. They know better than most of us just what is down there in Mexico and especially Central America. That is THE OPENING for Republicans and also why Republicans that concentrate on securing the border (and don’t talk about Amnesty, either way) DO FINE with Hispanics. But their consultants (most of them gay, by the way), keep telling them that they MUST support Amnesty, in order to get their support.

So a strategy that just MIGHT WORK for Republicans with regard to Hispanics is to go ALL-OUT for securing the border (i.e., a SERIOUS fence), and to start taking away the goodies that Illegals get, starting with welfare, and then looking the other way when they get jobs, education, health care, driver licenses, etc.

But I doubt they will do that, as their consultants (most of them gay, by the way), will advise them otherwise.


17 posted on 08/02/2014 9:59:17 AM PDT by BobL
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To: grania

” the HOR”

Just call it the House (capitalized) - no one else uses that acronym, at least in anything that I’ve ever read.


18 posted on 08/02/2014 10:01:05 AM PDT by BobL
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To: The Great RJ

“The hoards Obama has allowed to flood our border may produce a backlash in one of the Democrats most loyal base, African Americans. They see these illegals as taking away their jobs, welfare benefits and eventually their political power.”

Tricky, but possible. The idea is to (legally) suppress their voting. And this can be done by just what you say. If that’s the case, blacks would simply say both parties are against us (from a welfare state perspective) and not bother voting. I don’t think the Republicans stand a prayer of ever getting significant numbers of black votes regardless of what they do...at least in the short term.


19 posted on 08/02/2014 10:03:44 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Hojczyk

As racist and bigoted as I try to be, once people start talking in my language and accent, I kind of lose track.


20 posted on 08/02/2014 10:25:10 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Hojczyk

There is no more Democrat party, but a Latino party. US democrates are flushed out by abortion, gays and replaced by foreign government based people. It is complete suicide. dnesh is right.


21 posted on 08/02/2014 11:55:43 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: paul544

RINO!!!!!

Actually, I don’t think she is but I am in a humorous mood today and I think this reply is funny.


22 posted on 08/02/2014 2:21:34 PM PDT by OldMissileer
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23 posted on 08/02/2014 2:22:16 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: BobL
” the HOR”

Just call it the House (capitalized) - no one else uses that acronym, at least in anything that I’ve ever read.

Just put a "W" in front and an "E" at the end and it fits them all perfectly.

24 posted on 08/02/2014 2:30:46 PM PDT by OldMissileer
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To: ansel12
About the only difference between legal and illegal, is that the legals get to vote for more immigration through the democrat party, quicker. Yes, one could make a case that we should stop all immigration. Maybe whenever unemployment is over 5% or whenever our US-born vs. foreign-born is over 5%. We will do just fine without the large number of immigrants, even if legal.
25 posted on 08/02/2014 3:13:38 PM PDT by Reno89519 (For every illegal with a job, there's an American without one.)
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To: paul544

No, Rino or not, the problem with Bachman is that she ran for president as a Swiss citizen, belately disclosing her long time and secretively dual citizenship. Very embarrassing. Plus, in my opinion, she’s a bit of a loon.


26 posted on 08/02/2014 3:16:22 PM PDT by Reno89519 (For every illegal with a job, there's an American without one.)
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To: Steely Tom
Then why don't they speak up? It sure would help.

Because most of the legal Hispanic immigrants know of a few of their own relatives who are here illegally. They want all the others deported but not their own.

27 posted on 08/02/2014 3:18:34 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: steve86

I don’t think that it is feasible to ask that ALL illegals be deported, but I do think that the recent illegals should all be deported.

What I would like to see is voter ID that is not connected to motor voter. Special drivers’ licenses for people who lack proper identification (birth certificate), that would be accompanied by a prepaid insurance policy. The special driver’s license would be accompanied by a full set of fingerprints so that the person without proper ID could not simply change his name whenever he got into trouble.

The driver’s license with fingerprints would also help prevent id theft.


28 posted on 08/02/2014 3:25:31 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva

“I don’t think that it is feasible to ask that ALL illegals be deported, but I do think that the recent illegals should all be deported.”

That will certainly send a message to the foreign nationals who are currently weighing whether or not to illegally set up shop in the United States.

Of course the message is “if I stay there long enough they won’t bother deporting me” which is the same message that the amnesty crowd has been sending them for years.

When you won’t deport illegal aliens back to their own country you are giving them defacto amnesty. It doesn’t matter how long they have been here.


29 posted on 08/02/2014 3:34:17 PM PDT by Pelham (California, what happens when you won't deport illegals)
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To: BobL

“” the HOR”

Just call it the House (capitalized) - no one else uses that acronym, at least in anything that I’ve ever read.”

I’ve seen Hor used before in reference to the House, but I don’t mind it too much, especially because it sounds like whore, which is oftentimes appropriate.


30 posted on 08/02/2014 4:05:02 PM PDT by Vision Thing (obama wants his suicidal worshipers to become suicidal bombers.)
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To: Vision Thing

“I’ve seen Hor used before in reference to the House, but I don’t mind it too much, especially because it sounds like whore, which is oftentimes appropriate.”

LOL, can’t argue Whore...that was making it tough on me. In this case, since the listened to Cruz - definitely NOT whore.


31 posted on 08/02/2014 6:47:57 PM PDT by BobL
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