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America, Ebola, and Fear: Overblown Panic in America
National Review ^ | 08/02/2014 | Dr. MARC SIEGEL

Posted on 08/02/2014 7:18:35 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

America, the land of the free, the home of the brave, is in a social-media panic because Dr. Kent Brantly, the 33-year-old Indiana physician who contracted Ebola while battling it in Liberia, is coming home as he struggles to hang onto life. This fear-laden response to a true American hero is out of touch with the fundamental principles of this country.

The Internet is afire with protest, and the misleading headlines stating that Ebola is being brought to the U.S. spread more fear but no understanding or empathy.

Brantly himself makes me proud to be both an American and a physician, and reminds me of the fearless battle against HIV/AIDS in the 1980s, when we took personal risks to care for the sick and the dying. A family friend describes him as caring more for others than for himself. This kind of altruism and courage is becoming rare these days, among physicians and society in general, but it is just as important now as it was in the 1980s, if not more so.

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1 posted on 08/02/2014 7:18:35 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Brantly himself makes me proud to be both an American and a physician

That is great that you feel that way, Dr. Siegal.

Now, go volunteer to help take care of this man.

2 posted on 08/02/2014 7:21:22 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (It takes a gun to feed a village)
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To: SeekAndFind; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; ...
No rumor is true until the government denies it...

Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

3 posted on 08/02/2014 7:24:39 AM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
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To: SeekAndFind

ebola aint aids

this guys so isloated from reality its not funny


4 posted on 08/02/2014 7:26:42 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: Michael.SF.

Yeah; let him put his feet where his ideals are. Americans are living in fear of Ebola because we know all too well what will happen once it starts spreading.


5 posted on 08/02/2014 7:27:27 AM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: Michael.SF.

Brantly himself makes me proud to be both an American and a physician

That is great that you feel that way, Dr. Siegal.

Now, go volunteer to help take care of this man.


I agree with you.


6 posted on 08/02/2014 7:28:15 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: MeshugeMikey

The majority of people in medicine are; they prefer to spend more time researching AIDS rather than Ebola. AIDS often comes to someone via choice (I’m not including assault or marital infidelity) and is more a lifestyle disease. Ebola is not and infects more innocents. I am more and more shocked at what a complete ignorant disgrace our medical experts are.


7 posted on 08/02/2014 7:28:55 AM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: SeekAndFind
The goal of Agenda 21 is to reduce the human population down to five hundred million.

Almost all mainstream media organizations are on board with Agenda 21. If NR is downplaying the ebola threat then they are practicing NWO taqiyya.

8 posted on 08/02/2014 7:28:55 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Sirius Lee

I dunno about Agenda 21, but I do know that our government officials are going to get us killed through their uselessness. We elect them to deal with this stuff competently, but the idiots are worse than useless.


9 posted on 08/02/2014 7:30:19 AM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: SeekAndFind
Dr. Kent Brantly, the 33-year-old Indiana physician who contracted Ebola while battling it in Liberia, is coming home as he struggles to hang onto life.

... the misleading headlines stating that Ebola is being brought to the U.S.

What's misleading?? Unless Brantly is flying his own airplane, he and Ebola are indeed "being brought to the U.S."

10 posted on 08/02/2014 7:30:30 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Our current government bleeds corruption and incompetence and were supposed to trust them? They couldn’t handle building a website (Obamacare) nevermind something as deadly as Ebola.

Yeah, thanks doc. I think fear is justified in this case.


11 posted on 08/02/2014 7:31:29 AM PDT by k4gypsyrose
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To: CorporateStepsister

if there were an ebola OUTBREAK in the US....the panic alone would do untold damage to scoiety

an aids outbreak wever already seen...and it didnt... stop the trains from running

experts experts everywhere.....


12 posted on 08/02/2014 7:31:32 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Most of these extremely deadly pathogens grow weaker as time goes by.

(See the book “Plague Time” by Paul Ewald.)

Sooner or later, this evolutionary tendency to weaken — plus the likely development of a vaccine — will probably consign Ebola to the dustbin of history.


13 posted on 08/02/2014 7:31:57 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: SeekAndFind

There has never been a case of Ebola in the US, until now.

Great thinking Obama.


14 posted on 08/02/2014 7:32:33 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: k4gypsyrose

If you like your ebola..

no that doesnt work....


15 posted on 08/02/2014 7:32:56 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bring out your dead
Bring out your dead
Bring out your dead


16 posted on 08/02/2014 7:33:05 AM PDT by barbarianbabs
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To: k4gypsyrose
with this team at the helm of the ship of state its a wonder we havent started airlifting tens of thousands of liberians here as yet


17 posted on 08/02/2014 7:34:20 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: DTogo
Others have come home too, not sick but maybe just not sick yet. And the CDC is sending 50 more Americans there.

Could get a lot worse...

18 posted on 08/02/2014 7:34:29 AM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is the same disease that DOCTORS, taking all precautions, have still contracted.

A virus that all the references on say the infective load (i.e. number of individual virus particles to infect) are 1 to 10.

In a nation where few, if any doctors and nurses have any experience recognizing, much less diagnosing, a hemmorhagic fever.

And a government reassuring us, that left SMALLPOX in a closet for 50 years.

Prudence is the logical course here. . .


19 posted on 08/02/2014 7:35:22 AM PDT by Salgak (Peace through Superior Firepower. . . .)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Yes, but things might happen another way. Americans have an odd habit of rising to the occasion. I mean, I believe in Americans as a people and believe that we have the moxie to meet this disaster head on.


20 posted on 08/02/2014 7:35:58 AM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: SeekAndFind

Translation

You should be happy Ebola is being brought to the US so people like me can feel good about themselves.

Sorry doc but I feel a whole lot better about myself for wanting to keep it over there.


21 posted on 08/02/2014 7:36:33 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: CorporateStepsister

I trust that America’s soul has not been gutted...during the last five years...


22 posted on 08/02/2014 7:37:12 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: Michael.SF.
From the article:

Ritual burial practices that involve touching and washing the sick are part of what is spreading Ebola in West Africa.

That, and getting into taxis with infected, relatively asymptomatic people.

Newspaper headlines report that Americans fear a pandemic even though Ebola doesn’t spread through the air and all previous outbreaks have been stamped out.

And this one hasn't been stamped out. Maybe viruses are not as easy to predict as the doctor makes out. Maybe viruses change over time.

In the U.S., careful isolation of sick patients should prevent its spread if any cases do appear.

And that works for the first .001% of the population. Our medical system, while the best in the world, would crumble quickly in the face of any kind of pandemic requiring "careful isolation".

America, the land of the free, the home of the brave, is in a social-media panic because Dr. Kent Brantly, the 33-year-old Indiana physician who contracted Ebola while battling it in Liberia, is coming home as he struggles to hang onto life.

While his use of emotional catch-phrases is impressive, it doesn't address the underlying question: why is he being brought home? If the virus is going to kill him, it will do so relatively quickly, and by the time he gets home, he will either be dead or beyond care. It is much simpler to move the equipment and personnel to him, as opposed to moving him to them.

Personally, I am not concerned about him coming home. If the virus is so contagious that he poses a real risk (especially given the spotlight that they are under now), then there is no chance whatsoever that this will be contained to Africa, so it really won't make a difference. But that doesn't answer the question: why take the risk? Any kind of accident will immediately put American citizens in mortal danger, and it doesn't do any good to anyone, including Brantly.

Brantly himself makes me proud to be both an American and a physician, and reminds me of the fearless battle against HIV/AIDS in the 1980s, when we took personal risks to care for the sick and the dying.

Comparison between HIV/AIDS and Ebola is simply silly. HIV/AIDS is very difficult to get, especially for attending physicians. By contrast, treating Ebola patients involves very real risks, and deaths are not at all uncommon. This writer is simply feeding his own ego if he thinks the two are comparable.

In summary: the writer destroys his own credibility, puffs up his own ego, and does so to dismiss legitimate concerns.


23 posted on 08/02/2014 7:37:43 AM PDT by jjsheridan5 (Remember Mississippi -- leave the GOP plantation)
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To: MeshugeMikey

True. But, Nobama just invited 10 heads of state from Africa into the US for a conference. Any one of those diplomats could be a walking petri dish.


24 posted on 08/02/2014 7:41:20 AM PDT by k4gypsyrose
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m curious to learn in coming months whether support for Samaritan’s Purse increases or decreases.


25 posted on 08/02/2014 7:41:34 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: k4gypsyrose
True. But, Nobama just invited 10 heads of state from Africa into the US for a conference. Any one of those diplomats could be a walking petri dish.

Whether normal protocol or not, this is another unwise decision.
26 posted on 08/02/2014 7:43:05 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: SeekAndFind
While Ebola is supposedly spread only by contact with bodily fluids, these organisms do evolve new strains and could become airborne. Imagine trying to contain an outbreak of Ebola in the hoards illegally crossing our border. Despite the wish to evacuate these brave doctors and nurses to the US, I do not think it is worth the risk.
27 posted on 08/02/2014 7:44:11 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Resettozero

Given their irresponsible handling of repatriation of their people, definitely decreased from my household.

It’s a looooong flight home from Africa. You may feel perfectly well at the beginning. And be symptomatic at the end. Do you tell your fellow 3-400 passengers that you’re sick with a tummy bug or do you cop to having treated ebola patients last week?


28 posted on 08/02/2014 7:44:31 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: MeshugeMikey

No it hasn’t. Americans are no longer rolling over and surely you’ve noticed the insane backlash against Obama? Americans protesting, pushing back, even our judges are pushing against Obama’s dictates and the Congress actually did something useful just now for once instead of just rolling over passive.


29 posted on 08/02/2014 7:47:14 AM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: SeekAndFind

As I understand it these doctors were following all the safety protocols and STILL caught it.


30 posted on 08/02/2014 7:49:03 AM PDT by DManA
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To: SeekAndFind
NOTHING TO SEE HERE...MOVE ALONG...


31 posted on 08/02/2014 7:49:54 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: k4gypsyrose
I hate to say it but I think that we may need to do an INTERVENTION....at the Whitehouse.

Barrys insane pride in being pseudo compassionate could well backfire in ways no one could imagine.


32 posted on 08/02/2014 7:50:58 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: CorporateStepsister

we do appear to have survived fairly well...all things considered.

with the general election just weeks away.....the ship of state could be turned around


33 posted on 08/02/2014 7:52:52 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: SeekAndFind

The sheer numbers of medical professionals who have been infected have those on the front line questioning the communicability of this strain.

There are only 4 facilities in the US that have these kinds of isolation units, yet we’re told that an outbreak in the US isn’t possible because we have such great medical facilities.

These two are being flown over in an essential bubble and will be kept in a virtual vaccume.

How does that compare to someone walking into the ER not knowing what they even have? How many people has he already infected and will further infect in that hospital before they even realize what they’re dealing with?

There is a huge disconnect going on here.


34 posted on 08/02/2014 7:55:54 AM PDT by Raebie
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To: MeshugeMikey

“if there were an ebola OUTBREAK in the US....the panic alone would do untold damage to scoiety”

Obama Inc will manipulate the panic in order to gain more control. Even if there is no leak of infection, or outbreak, all one of Obama’s lackeys has to do is ‘imply’ that the Ebola virus is spreading in the US,,,and the propaganda media will eat it up, even if NOT true and we will never know the truth.

If Obama can use Ebola (in any way, real or by threat) to try to affect the mid-terms, he’ll do it.


35 posted on 08/02/2014 7:56:18 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: austinaero

NOTHING is beneath Obama!


36 posted on 08/02/2014 7:57:44 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: MeshugeMikey

“The Internet is afire with protest, and the misleading headlines stating that Ebola is being brought to the U.S. spread more fear but no understanding or empathy.”

I’m sure Dr Brantley at one point thought he could safely care for those with Ebola,,then he contracted it.

Dr Seigel needs to be pinned down with the question “How did an expert on Ebola who surely practiced every precaution possible, actually end up with Ebola?”

Would love to hear the answer to that


37 posted on 08/02/2014 7:58:42 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: jjsheridan5

Ebola: 5 Questions for a Frontline Healthcare Worker in Sierra Leone

“The repeated infection of expert healthcare workers in Sierra Leone and Liberia (who were presumably very careful about PPE), however, has raised some questions about whether this is a uniquely/especially contagious strain of the virus. We’re going to be communicating with Doctors Without Borders (MSF) to find out if they think this is an issue of systems (ie how people are geared-up or decontaminated) or something else (ie the type of PPE).”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andrew-maccalla/ebola-5-questions-for-a-f_1_b_5642610.html?utm_hp_ref=impact&ir=Impact


38 posted on 08/02/2014 8:02:17 AM PDT by Raebie
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To: The Great RJ
Canadian researchers showed in 2012 that it could transmit from pigs to monkeys thru NO direct contact, ie. Airborne. The only debate was over the size of the droplets (smaller = greater distances travelled) and therefore whether it could truly be classified as airborne. Point being they've already shown it CAN travel without direct contact.

and they're bringing it here why?!?

39 posted on 08/02/2014 8:06:36 AM PDT by Axeslinger (Where has my country gone?)
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To: The Great RJ
Canadian researchers showed in 2012 that it could transmit from pigs to monkeys thru NO direct contact, ie. Airborne. The only debate was over the size of the droplets (smaller = greater distances travelled) and therefore whether it could truly be classified as airborne. Point being they've already shown it CAN travel without direct contact.

and they're bringing it here why?!?

40 posted on 08/02/2014 8:06:44 AM PDT by Axeslinger (Where has my country gone?)
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To: austinaero

Dr Siegals likely an obama zombie...


41 posted on 08/02/2014 8:07:38 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: SeekAndFind

There’s a lot, a real lot of reasons to fear ebola and go into panic mode. Ebola is a killer, despite a very few who survive. It is a horrible illness, and to bring it into the US is beyond irresponsible. Should any sort of outbreak occur in the US, President 0bama’s fear of impeachment will become the least of his worries!!!!!


42 posted on 08/02/2014 8:09:11 AM PDT by Ranger Warrior
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To: austinaero

“Obama Inc will manipulate the panic in order to gain more control. Even if there is no leak of infection, or outbreak, all one of Obama’s lackeys has to do is ‘imply’ that the Ebola virus is spreading in the US,,,and the propaganda media will eat it up, even if NOT true and we will never know the truth.”

Wow! If ever there was the opportunity for a truly evil regime to remove ‘undesirables’ from the populace, this would be the perfect means to go about it! Announce that this incredibly contagious virus with horrifying effects is on the loose, that anybody in their right mind would avoid at all costs. Set up 20 ‘quarantine centers’ around the country staffed by your most loyal and equally evil followers. All the regime would need to do is go around collecting the undesirables in some sort of ‘ambulance’ claiming to family and neighbors that the individual had been in a place where they were exposed, and needed to be quarantined for the safety of the rest of the country. Transport said individuals to one of the 20 facilities where they are placed in a level 4 lab never to be seen again. Nobody could even investigate. No bodies because they must be cremated.

I have a great imagination...


43 posted on 08/02/2014 8:17:03 AM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: MeshugeMikey
...with the general election just weeks away, the ship of state could be turned around.

In these here parts, we call them things "months".
44 posted on 08/02/2014 8:21:53 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Carthego delenda est

No. You don’t have a great imagination. It all happened before in Germany.


45 posted on 08/02/2014 8:23:25 AM PDT by NorseWood
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To: Carthego delenda est

“I have a great imagination...”

You sure do!


46 posted on 08/02/2014 8:24:18 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: austinaero

Here is his email:

marc@doctorsiegel.com


47 posted on 08/02/2014 8:26:27 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: SeekAndFind
Dr. Siegal, the fear comes from the knowledge that we have to rely on the competence of the govenment to prevent the Ebola virus from escaping. No one trusts the government. Therefore, the logical solution to keep the Ebola virus out of the United States.

It's not an irrational fear, it's a realistic concern and conviction.

48 posted on 08/02/2014 8:31:19 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: Resettozero

three months aint many weeks...


49 posted on 08/02/2014 8:37:44 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: MeshugeMikey

The problem is that Ebola at this time cannot be cured via traditional medicine. There is no anti virus. The only way to control this is quarantine. It will eventually come down to shut down borders and even air transport.

The idea of reducing global population to 500m w Ebola would be a catrastrophic event. This disease does not distinguish between race, creed, or color. It must have hosts to stay alive.

Watch what happens when this explodes in major African cities.


50 posted on 08/02/2014 8:37:48 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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