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Outbreak, by Richard Preston
New York Magazine | Autust 11, 2014 | Richard Preston

Posted on 08/02/2014 8:30:08 AM PDT by Raebie

Can't post here but for those interested, Preston's take on the outbreak. Not comforting.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/08/11/outbreak


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: ebola; ebolaoutbreak; preston
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1 posted on 08/02/2014 8:30:08 AM PDT by Raebie
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To: Raebie

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/08/11/outbreak


2 posted on 08/02/2014 8:32:15 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (‘You can avoid reality, but you can’t avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.’)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

The film “Contagion” might be a glimpse of our future.


3 posted on 08/02/2014 8:33:08 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (‘You can avoid reality, but you can’t avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.’)
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To: Raebie

I simply do not understand the reasoning of bringing the one patient here to the states. It’s incredible the stupidity in this thought process.


4 posted on 08/02/2014 8:38:46 AM PDT by oust the louse (The Democratic Party might as well be called the Death Party. Abortion & ObamaCare/death panels.)
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To: Raebie

Wow that is worse then I though, scary read.


5 posted on 08/02/2014 8:39:01 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: oust the louse

Check your premise.

You are assuming the goal isn’t the utter destruction of western civilization.

Remove that premise and everything obama and his ilk have done abruptly snaps into perfect alignment and focus.


6 posted on 08/02/2014 8:42:09 AM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
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To: oust the louse

Misplaced pride in the saying: “Leaving no one behind.”


7 posted on 08/02/2014 8:43:55 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Raebie

According to Preston, the virus is transmitted through contact with bodily fluids yet even workers wearing hazmat suits have contracted it.


8 posted on 08/02/2014 8:45:46 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68

I know. We are not being told the truth here.


9 posted on 08/02/2014 8:50:43 AM PDT by Raebie
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To: Drew68

Probably aersolized blood/body fluids that were inhaled

Just a guess......


10 posted on 08/02/2014 8:51:09 AM PDT by njslim (T)
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To: jpsb

Yeah, yeah, that really does not jibe with what we’re being told.

This is the money line “[The doctors and nurses] had been working in biological-hazard suits, yet they got sick anyway.”

What is up with that?

And if his other details are true, that bodies are being left in the street, etc. Well, I just don’t see how it will be stopped. I doubt they even have enough bio-hazard suits to supply people.

But I’d think we could rush a bunch of them over, that would be one thing that could be done.


11 posted on 08/02/2014 8:51:32 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Raebie

So they’re leaving the stiffs lay in the streets to rot in the heat and get eaten by animals. I can’t imagine why it’s so out of control.


12 posted on 08/02/2014 8:51:59 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: oust the louse
I simply do not understand the reasoning of bringing the one patient here to the states. It’s incredible the stupidity in this thought process.

You may not understand responsible people bringing Ebola patients to the USA, but it makes more sense when you think it through. Barack Hussein Obama is bringing a deadly disease to the USA. That should be no surprise.

13 posted on 08/02/2014 8:52:18 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: njslim

It certainly emphasizes the difficulty of isolating the patient. The smallest contact with even an incredibly small amount of virus containing fluid and you’re finished.


14 posted on 08/02/2014 9:04:08 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Pollster1

We’ll know something is up when he next plays golf wearing a hazmat suit and an oxygen tank.


15 posted on 08/02/2014 9:05:47 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Slump Tester
So they’re leaving the stiffs lay in the streets to rot in the heat and get eaten by animals.

And then eating the animals. Like bats. ummmmmmm gooooood.

16 posted on 08/02/2014 9:08:41 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Slump Tester
BBQ bats on a stick. Ummmmm....


17 posted on 08/02/2014 9:10:46 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Raebie; All

Pick up and read Preston’s book “Hot Zone”... Great read and very scary. We are not being told the truth!


18 posted on 08/02/2014 9:12:00 AM PDT by seeker41 (take your country back by whatever means necessary & remove the son of a kenyan mooslimb)
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To: Raebie

A long read but a very informative book on viruses, how they work, where they started and what we have in store for us.

19 posted on 08/02/2014 9:14:20 AM PDT by jetson
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To: miss marmelstein

“We’ll know something is up when he next plays golf wearing a hazmat suit and an oxygen tank.”

You’ll know something’s up when he is a no show for the glad-handing, elbow-rubbing and worship by the masses of fools in this country. When we only see and hear this POS broadcasting from his bunker studio you’ll also know your about to be sacrificed for the greater good of mankind.


20 posted on 08/02/2014 9:15:56 AM PDT by chulaivn66 (Meine antwort ist nein. Ende der Debatte.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

CAN’T GET ONTO LINK.


21 posted on 08/02/2014 9:16:45 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Bush won the War in Iraq, Obozo lost the peace..and gave Iraq back to the Terrorists!)
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To: chulaivn66

I do like the image of him broadcasting from his bunker! I’m sure he’s a total physical coward.


22 posted on 08/02/2014 9:26:34 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: null and void

“Check your premise......You are assuming the goal isn’t the utter destruction of western civilization......Remove that premise and everything obama and his ilk have done abruptly snaps into perfect alignment and focus.’....

I have a friend I keep telling “You forget who he is” everytime they start complaining about how stupid this is, or how stupid that was concerning this traitor...I never forget, it’s all very calculated....


23 posted on 08/02/2014 9:43:12 AM PDT by selfdefense
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To: null and void

That’s my take too - it looks like Obama is throwing the game. In that light his moves make sense...


24 posted on 08/02/2014 9:43:15 AM PDT by GOPJ (It's almost like Obama is throwing the game....)
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To: Pollster1

This American doctor is the camel’s nose under the tent. Next our hospitals will be filled with all kinds of diseased third worlders. They’ll bring them all in to be treated.


25 posted on 08/02/2014 9:57:56 AM PDT by sheana
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To: Raebie

Dear Lord...

Thanks for the link. Medical personnel who knowingly put their lives on the line and go into horrific conditions to treat people with this virus are heroes to me. God bless them.


26 posted on 08/02/2014 9:58:38 AM PDT by Shelayne
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

neither can I


27 posted on 08/02/2014 10:04:14 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Is there such a thing as a vegan zombie?)
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To: jetson

I read the reviews of this on Amazon and one reviewer says the author blames Republicans too much and then offers a list of less biased alternative books.


28 posted on 08/02/2014 10:06:42 AM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: sheana
sheana:" This American doctor is the camel’s nose under the tent.
Next our hospitals will be filled with all kinds of diseased third worlders.
They’ll bring them all in to be treated."

Typical Cloward-Piven systematic destruction :
OVERWHELM THE SYSTEM !
That's called : "Leveling the Field".. (Obadinga's montra)


29 posted on 08/02/2014 10:31:26 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Political Correctness is Tyranny .. with manners ! Charlton Heston)
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To: oust the louse

They’re bringing both over. One wasn’t enough. I hate to see these two Americans suffer at all, but don’t bring them here!


30 posted on 08/02/2014 10:46:05 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Ok, the joke's over. Bring back the Constitution.)
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To: null and void

OMG, I read the article. Jeff’s Liberian mil was in the hospital here in Atlanta, with malaria 10 days ago.
I read that it looks like malaria at first. If I’d have known that I’d have freaked out! I guess it’s ok, she’s released and no one has died yet.


31 posted on 08/02/2014 10:49:17 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Ok, the joke's over. Bring back the Constitution.)
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To: Aria
I read the reviews of this on Amazon and one reviewer says the author blames Republicans too much and then offers a list of less biased alternative books.

I don't really remember a lot of politics in the book. It was written by a Berkley doctor. It is still very informative about virus research. I'm sure the republicans will get blamed for an asteroid hitting the earth.

32 posted on 08/02/2014 10:50:49 AM PDT by jetson
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To: oust the louse; Raebie
oust the louse:" I simply do not understand the reasoning of bringing the one patient here to the states.
It’s incredible the stupidity in this thought process."

They are bringing back two patients , one at a time , using the same aircraft, which is already on a return flight.
#1) First rule of any contagious disease: ISOLATE , this violates this rule . Why ?
#2) Expierienced medical personell, using modern techniques and HAZMAT suits, are still contracting the disease in Africa.
#3) Medical treatment requires hydrating the patient with saline solutions (of which there is already a severe shortage), and use of coagulants and anti-coagulants.
#3a) Given the shortage of saline supplies, this puts the risk of further contaigian potentially more dangerous to the general population . Resupply avialable next year.
#4) Who made the decision to transport the two patients to the U.S. mainland ? Someone, or an organization, needs to be held accountable in case of disaster ! #5) There is currently no known treatment, or vaccine for this uncharacteristic variety of Ebola. Five other varieties have been identified

33 posted on 08/02/2014 10:53:39 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Political Correctness is Tyranny .. with manners ! Charlton Heston)
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To: jetson

What I’d like to know is what defenses do we have...can’t help but think those in big cities are most vulnerable if this thing gets lose.

Was just looking at a history of the black plague on Wikipedia and it appears as though it bypassed Poland, of all places.


34 posted on 08/02/2014 10:56:13 AM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: njslim
njslim :" Probably aersolized blood/body fluids that were inhaled
Just a guess......"

A Freep article on 4/16/14 discusses coughing and the size of dropplets remaining suspended in the air :
"In the cloud: How coughs and sneezes float farther than you think"
< / http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3142204/posts >

35 posted on 08/02/2014 11:08:48 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Political Correctness is Tyranny .. with manners ! Charlton Heston)
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To: Raebie
The Commonwealth Games are going on in Scotland, and the Sierra Leone racing teams haven't showed for any event. They're afraid of going back home to Ebola Central. BOzo is hosting the first U.S.-Africa Leaders Summit in DC this M-W with 50 African heads of state and their extensive entourages. How many will refuse to go home or arrive infected?
36 posted on 08/02/2014 11:09:23 AM PDT by GAgal
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To: njslim

Concur. In any evaporation process a small amount of the base fluid will be carried over. The virus will exist within that small amount of fluid. If the description of conditions is accurate, the air in that place has plenty of virus in it. The “protective clothing” I have seen in news photos would be completely ineffective in that environment.


37 posted on 08/02/2014 11:12:14 AM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

My friend who has connections in the LEA, syas that National Guard are being given protection now from this and that we will definitely have Martial Law when this gets going.


38 posted on 08/02/2014 11:20:17 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Bush won the War in Iraq, Obozo lost the peace..and gave Iraq back to the Terrorists!)
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Recovering Ex-hippie: "..National Guard are being given protection now from this and that we will definitely have Martial Law when this gets going."

I notice that you used the term ".. when .."
Interesting !

39 posted on 08/02/2014 11:27:21 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Political Correctness is Tyranny .. with manners ! Charlton Heston)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

YUP...WHETHER it actually hits or NOT.


40 posted on 08/02/2014 11:28:10 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Bush won the War in Iraq, Obozo lost the peace..and gave Iraq back to the Terrorists!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Your use of the term :.."when".."

We are trusting the general health ,safety , and welfare of our Nation on the CDC
This is the same orgnaization that misplaced anthrax
This is the same organization that misplaced smallpox
This is the same organization that mishandled Swine Flu
Kinda makes you wonder ...... "when ".
What I want to know is who is accountable for violation of the "FIRST PROTOCAL " : " ISOLATION "

41 posted on 08/02/2014 11:36:05 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Political Correctness is Tyranny .. with manners ! Charlton Heston)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

this will be the “reason” for marital law..the “threat” or lies about Ebola in the US.


42 posted on 08/02/2014 11:37:42 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Bush won the War in Iraq, Obozo lost the peace..and gave Iraq back to the Terrorists!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Recovering Ex-hippie:" this will be the “reason” for marital law..the “threat” or lies about Ebola in the US."

Not surprized
'This is going to be most open and transparent adminstration ever '
Even Bawney Fwank is upset at the ongoing dishonesty.

43 posted on 08/02/2014 11:59:56 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Political Correctness is Tyranny .. with manners ! Charlton Heston)
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To: null and void
Have you read Executive Orders by Tom Clancy? The book has the United Islamic Republic (Iran and Iraq unified) a bioweapons attack using weaponized Ebola, and other exciting things.

I just read it with the news in the background. Scared the heck out of me. Too real.

44 posted on 08/02/2014 12:17:56 PM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
What I want to know is who is accountable for violation of the "FIRST PROTOCOL " : " ISOLATION "

I have heard that Ebola is a prime candidate for "weaponization" - perhaps they feel they need a fresh sample for "research"

45 posted on 08/02/2014 12:40:47 PM PDT by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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To: Slump Tester
So they’re leaving the stiffs lay in the streets to rot in the heat and get eaten by animals. I can’t imagine why it’s so out of control.

Yes, and how many decades have we been sending people over there to teach them how to dig a simple water well.

46 posted on 08/02/2014 1:43:21 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
If one or both survive it WILL open the floodgates for every disease ridden third worlder and his camel to be brought onto US soil.
47 posted on 08/02/2014 1:48:48 PM PDT by bgill
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48 posted on 08/02/2014 1:49:22 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: seeker41

For those not as familiar with Ebola and potentials...this is a definite read as it is based on a true story.

“The Hot Zone” free .pdf download:

http://learn.flvs.net/educator/common/EnglishIIv10/TheHotZone.pdf


49 posted on 08/02/2014 1:53:26 PM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Vial Of Deadly Virus Missing From Texas Biolab
http://www.kake.com/news/national/headlines/Vial-Of-Deadly-Virus-Missing-From-Texas-biolab-199959361.html

Monday, March 25, 2013

The Galveston National Laboratory lost one of five vials containing a deadly Venezuelan virus, according to the University of Texas Medical Branch, which owns the $174 million facility designed with the strictest security measures to hold the deadliest viruses in the country.

Like Ebola, the missing Guanarito virus causes hemorrhagic fever, an illness named for “bleeding under the skin, in internal organs or from body orifices like the mouth, eyes, or ears,” according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

“I suspect that they may not ever be able to account for it if it was that kind of human error,” Schaffner said.


50 posted on 08/02/2014 1:56:14 PM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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