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U.S. official: Spy plane flew over Sweden to evade Russian military tracking
CNN ^ | August 2, 2014 | Barbara Starr

Posted on 08/02/2014 10:42:10 AM PDT by McGruff

A U.S. Air Force spy plane evaded an encounter with the Russian military in recent days by flying into nearby Swedish airspace without that country's permission, a U.S. military official told CNN.

The RC-135 Rivet Joint plane was flying in international airspace, conducting an electronic eavesdropping mission on the Russian military, when the Russians took the unusual action of beginning to track it with one of its land-based radar.

The Russians then sent at least one fighter jet into the sky to intercept the American aircraft, the U.S. official said Saturday.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: parpro; putinsbuttboys; russia; russiatoday; sweden; ukraine
Keep this up and we'll have missles in Cuba again.
1 posted on 08/02/2014 10:42:10 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: McGruff
Keep this up and we'll have missiles in Cuba again.

And Mexico!

2 posted on 08/02/2014 10:45:20 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: McGruff

I assumed this was standard practice: we fly spy planes in international airspace near other countries and the ones that are able to track the planes with radar do so.

Seems if we’re that nervous about our planes being tracked by radar while in international airspace, we should either send planes that cannot be tracked or use satellites to do the job.


3 posted on 08/02/2014 10:45:25 AM PDT by ruiner
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To: ruiner

Sounds like they were tracking it with a fire control radar rather than a surveillance radar. That is considered a hostile act. The Soviets spy on us, we spy on them, for the most part both parties are well behaved. Illuminating an aircraft in international air space with a fire control radar is the kind of shit that gets people killed.


4 posted on 08/02/2014 10:49:12 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: McGruff

“This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we’ll be lucky to live through it.” — Hunt for Red October


5 posted on 08/02/2014 10:50:38 AM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: McGruff
bKeep this up and we'll have missles in Cuba again.

Keep this up and we'll have missiles in New York City.

6 posted on 08/02/2014 10:51:01 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: McGruff

The real story here is the willful violation of Sweden’s neutrality. If Sweden permits repeated violation of its declared neutrality, its neutrality will be voided. Stockholm vigorously guards its neutral status.


7 posted on 08/02/2014 10:55:22 AM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: Izzy Dunne

I vote for missiles in Washington, DC. Can we arrange that, please?


8 posted on 08/02/2014 10:55:41 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: PastorBooks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb0QLxcvowk


9 posted on 08/02/2014 10:57:28 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: ruiner

They don’t want another Gary Powers incident.


10 posted on 08/02/2014 10:59:32 AM PDT by expat2
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To: McGruff
I'm trying to figure out why the Public needs to know this kind of information.
Are they trying to make Obama look smart in some way by f-ing up our national security?
11 posted on 08/02/2014 11:03:48 AM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: McGruff

I’m very surprised we even had a Rivet Joint up snooping.


12 posted on 08/02/2014 11:09:01 AM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: McGruff

We’ve been doing this for over 50 years. Nothing new. They gather information about the Russians’ targeting radars with each probe.


13 posted on 08/02/2014 11:22:53 AM PDT by EricT. (Everything not forbidden is compulsory.)
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To: PastorBooks

Ole Fred. He was just an actor. But then again so was Ronald Reagan.


14 posted on 08/02/2014 11:27:59 AM PDT by McGruff (Seems like some are more interested in protecting Ukraine's border than ours)
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To: McGruff

Not “just” an actor. Perhaps you should take a look at his CV.


15 posted on 08/02/2014 11:29:59 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

You missed my point but I’m not surprised.


16 posted on 08/02/2014 11:38:05 AM PDT by McGruff (Seems like some are more interested in protecting Ukraine's border than ours)
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To: McGruff
". . . when the Russians took the unusual action of beginning to track it with one of its land-based radar."

Could someone explain why this is unusual?

17 posted on 08/02/2014 11:40:58 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: McGruff

Well, the airliner bombing had its effect. because we are too pu$$y to assert ourselves, we abuse our allies’ trust... Hiding behind Sweden.

Our. Obama military is a complete efn disgrace of cowards.


18 posted on 08/02/2014 11:46:12 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: Rashputin
See post #4.

If this was just normal long range tracking/search radar, not a big deal.

If it was fire control radar from a SAM site locking him up, that is the precursor for being set to fire a missile, depending on the SAM system.

19 posted on 08/02/2014 11:48:23 AM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: McGruff
We could do a lot worse than "Ole Fred".

If nothing else, he'd at least be able to improvise when his teleprompter died instead of babbling like an uneducated punk on gorilla biscuits the way His Majesty King Barry does.

Regards

20 posted on 08/02/2014 11:50:52 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin

For the sake of clarity, I did not miss your point, just in case you take my comment the wrong way.


21 posted on 08/02/2014 11:52:23 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: doorgunner69
Makes sense and maybe that's the case but I'd have thought given the current climate they would have differentiated.

Is it possible they were surprised that Russian long range radar would single out the aircraft rather than seeing it as normal civilian flights over Sweden and ignoring it?

22 posted on 08/02/2014 11:55:13 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Always A Marine
From the article:
"As a result of this incident, the United States is discussing the matter with Sweden and letting them know there may be further occurrences where American jets may have to divert so quickly they may not be able to wait for permission."

Apparently Sweden's neutrality isn't high on the US priority list these days and the US figures Sweden feels the same if they expect to be allowed to ignore that neutrality at the pilot's discretion.

23 posted on 08/02/2014 12:01:05 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: McGruff

You had a point? Truly surprising.


24 posted on 08/02/2014 1:15:31 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: McGruff

The memories of many hours in the RJ. Its not a bad plane, just always smelled funny and older than dirt. One plane, nicknamed Damien, had a short and the microwave would set off the call button.


25 posted on 08/02/2014 8:33:51 PM PDT by Azeem (There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
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ts not a bad plane, just always smelled funny and older than dirt.

I was kinda partial to that Sent ;-)
26 posted on 08/03/2014 8:24:42 PM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: MaxMax
I'm trying to figure out why the Public needs to know this kind of information.

How would you get the Swedes to keep it a secret?

27 posted on 08/03/2014 8:27:10 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: struwwelpeter

When I read the headline, I thought it was the Combat Sent that got lit up, not the Rivet Joint. I mentioned in another thread, this isn’t the first time or even the closest the RJ has been threatened or intercepted. If the Russians really wanted to take it down, they could. The 707 is not going to outrun or outmaneuver a AAM or SAM.


28 posted on 08/04/2014 5:30:24 AM PDT by Azeem (There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
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