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House chaos a sign Boehner is Cruz’ing to Obama impeachment?
Washington Post ^ | August 1 at 4:16 PM | Jonathan Capehart

Posted on 08/02/2014 11:58:12 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

The Post articles on the House Republican revolt over the border bill and and the role Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) played in making it happen have nuggets of information that show why I’ve been harping about the possibility of  impeachment since June.

As the article on the revolt notes, Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and his allies said they had the votes to pass a border bill that not only speeded up deportations but also had a $659 million price tag, which was considerably less than the $3.7 billion President Obama asked for. And then the bill was pulled from the floor — like so many others before it.

Why, exactly a year ago yesterday Boehner pulled a spending bill from the Transportation and Housing and Urban Development due to lack of support. A little more than a month later, on Sept. 11, 2013, Boehner pulled a temporary funding bill meant to stave off a government shutdown because the rank and file were upset it didn’t defund Obamacare. On Dec. 20, 2012, Boehner pulled his fiscal cliff “Plan B” proposal because it “did not have sufficient support from our members to pass.” Oh, and there was that vote on March 15, 2011, when Republican defections forced Boehner to rely on Democrats to pass a three-week spending bill to keep the government from shutting down then.

I highlight these moments along Boehner’s legislative trail of failure — and these are just the examples I could remember — to show his inability to stand up to the far-right-wing of his calamitous caucus. As you see, his problems pre-date the arrival of Cruz in the Capitol in January. But the freshman senator from Texas has successfully exploited the leadership vacuum in the House

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio; US: Texas
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1 posted on 08/02/2014 11:58:12 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie
From the Article:
The freshman senator also reminded them to be skeptical of promises from House leaders, particularly of “show votes” – legislative action designed to placate conservatives that carry little, if any, weight.

2 posted on 08/02/2014 11:59:25 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie; Jarhead9297; COUNTrecount; notaliberal; DoughtyOne; RitaOK; MountainDad; ...
Ted Cruz Ping!

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Please beware, this is a high-volume ping list!
3 posted on 08/02/2014 12:00:07 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Boehner will try his best to help his Bro Barry


4 posted on 08/02/2014 12:00:27 PM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: FreeReign

You and the author of this Washington Post article are advocating for the same thing: Impeachment. That seems odd, doesn’t it?


5 posted on 08/02/2014 12:07:16 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: SoConPubbie

Who knows what that Benghazi Committee might turn up.


6 posted on 08/02/2014 12:08:55 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SoConPubbie
Lawlessness, corruption, and thuggery have become standard operating procedures under liberal democrat leadership.

Their supporters will continue to pretend that nothing has happened. They work very hard to cover for these guys, and they provide funding for them. Thus, they become partakers of this corruption.

7 posted on 08/02/2014 12:10:51 PM PDT by Moorings
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To: centurion316

Strikes me that now is the time for people like us FReepers to be building public support for impeachment while congressional pubbies keep mum. Then, if we win the Senate and chances for conviction look favorable, go for it, but not until then.


8 posted on 08/02/2014 12:13:06 PM PDT by libstripper
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Rand Paul On Shutdown: "Even Though It Appeared I Was Participating In It, It Was A Dumb Idea"
I said throughout the whole battle that shutting down the government was a dumb idea. Even though it did appear as if I was participating in it, I said it was a dumb idea. And the reason I voted for it, though, is that it's a conundrum. Here's the conundrum. We have a $17 trillion debt and people at home tell me you can't give the president a blank check. We just can't keep raising the debt ceiling without conditions. So unconditionally raising the debt ceiling, nobody at home wants me to vote for that and I can't vote for that. But the conundrum is if I don't we do approach these deadlines. So there is an impasse. In 2011, though, we had this impasse and the president did negotiate. We got the sequester. If we were to extend the sequester from discretionary spending to all the entitlements we would actually fix our problem within a few years.
[Posted on 11/19/2013 12:16:51 PM by Third Person]

9 posted on 08/02/2014 12:15:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SoConPubbie

Still need 67 in the Senate. Ain’t happening soon.


10 posted on 08/02/2014 12:16:57 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: centurion316

The author isn’t advocating impeachment, he’s predicting it.


11 posted on 08/02/2014 12:20:01 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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To: libstripper

Even if the Pubs get control of the Senate they would need 2/3 to convict. Let’s just say that’s extremely unlikely.


12 posted on 08/02/2014 12:21:44 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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To: Hugin

He’s actually begging for it, as are much of the media and the Democrat Party leadership. It’s practically the only hope that they have left.


13 posted on 08/02/2014 12:22:20 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Hugin

I’m predicting impeachment, but led by Democrats as he wheels come off the bus.


14 posted on 08/02/2014 12:23:52 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: centurion316
You and the author of this Washington Post article are advocating for the same thing: Impeachment. That seems odd, doesn’t it?

Okay. So you can't really respond to my points so you bring up a new point.

Anyway...they are goading Boehner to clear the way for the president to do whatever he wants with impeachment being taken off the table.

And that's exactly what Boehner (and you) have done. Odd isn't it.

Does 'No Impeachment' Fulfill Saul Alinsky's Rule #4?


15 posted on 08/02/2014 12:27:23 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Don Corleone
Still need 67 in the Senate. Ain’t happening soon.

Not unless Ebola strikes in the Senate Democrat cloakroom. (Tho, given the Obama administration's level of incompetence at everything else they've managed, an Ebola epidemic in Washington DC has a probability of something more than 0.)

BTW, didn't the House pass the bill last night? It's going to be buried deep in the heart of Yucca Mountain by Harry Reid -- but they did pass it. Shouldn't WaPo columnists at least read the front page of their own paper? I wouldn't -- but I'm not being paid by the Washington Post.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/house-gop-moves-closer-on-immigration-bill-ahead-of-recess/2014/08/01/11084a2e-1983-11e4-9e3b-7f2f110c6265_story.html

16 posted on 08/02/2014 12:36:22 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: SoConPubbie

The WP is doing what they always do....inventing stuff. The HOR finally did something responsible. They listened to what their voters want.


17 posted on 08/02/2014 12:38:00 PM PDT by grania
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To: FreeReign

I think there’s probably a strategy, believe it or not.

The House can impeach Obama to its heart’s content and he’ll remain in office. Only if the GOP gets the Senate can he actually be removed from office. Remember Bill Clinton, who actually was impeached...with no effect.

So I’d say the lawsuit is a gambit. It has real potential, but probably won’t make it through the system until Obama is leaving office. However, in the meantime, it’s keeping Obama off-guard, and that’s why he’s talking about impeachment all the time.

Impeachment is an Obama fundraising tool, and only fools would fall for it. But if we get more seats in the Senate (which seems less and less likely to me, alas), then it could be a reality, and Cruz and Boehner know it.


18 posted on 08/02/2014 12:39:10 PM PDT by livius
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To: Don Corleone

Even 67 republican senators wouldn’t be enough because of the RINO factor.


19 posted on 08/02/2014 12:58:46 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: livius
Impeachment is an Obama fundraising tool, and only fools would fall for it.

The Democrats are smart to use impeachment as a fund raising tool.

The Republicans such as Boehner, are foolish not to.

The Democrats goad Boehner to take impeachment off the table.

Boehner foolishly takes impeachment (and just about everything else) off the table.

20 posted on 08/02/2014 1:02:59 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: SoConPubbie

The true beauty of them publishing the devious, demagogue, hate spewing, Dimocrats as they continue to become more shrill in their denouncement of impeachable offenses committed by Skippy the First is that they may well make the case for impeachment in the press before the idea catches on with the timid GOPe.


21 posted on 08/02/2014 1:16:10 PM PDT by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects)
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To: SoConPubbie; All

The federal government is constitutionally gridlocked at this time because Congress is divided. (Obama’s constitutionally indefensible executive orders are a different issue.)

For example, citizens understandably want Obama impeached out of office. The problem is that a split Congress cannot impeach Obama out of office at this time. This is because only the Senate has the constitutional authority to remove someone from office should the House of Representatives impeach someone. And Reid, who also needs to be impeached imo, will not allow the Senate to remove Obama from office.

Again, a lot of so-called House chaos is a actually consequence of Congress being divided imo.

As a side note to the federal government being gridlocked, please consider the following. Given the limited powers that the Founding States had delegated to Congress, gridlock is arguably the effect as to how the Founders wanted the federal government to normally operate. In other words, the Founder intended for citizens to work with their local and state government representatives, not federal lawmakers, to resolve domestic problems.

In fact, note that just about the only peacetime concern that citizens would contact their federal lawmakers about is the US Mail Service evidenced by the Constitution’s Clause 7 of Section 8 of Article I. Otherwise, the states have never delegated to Congress, expressly via the Constitution, the specific powers to establish most of the federal services that many citizens are depending on today.


22 posted on 08/02/2014 1:19:55 PM PDT by Amendment10
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23 posted on 08/02/2014 1:22:59 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: SoConPubbie
legislative action designed to placate conservatives that carry little, if any, weight.


Not for long!

24 posted on 08/02/2014 1:43:41 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: FreeReign
I notice Boehner's bully pulpit announcements are usually less than a minute.
He can't seem to articulate enough information to gain support without crying.

And he deserves ridicule, and I'm darn willing to give it.

25 posted on 08/02/2014 1:47:11 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: SoConPubbie; Jarhead9297; COUNTrecount; notaliberal; DoughtyOne; RitaOK; MountainDad
The House needs to dump Boehner today. The Republican Party cannot be taken seriously until it accomplishes this first step on the road to Obama Recovery.

Where is The Program, The Plan, The Leaders we need to get the Republic into recovery? This is Depression. It is made worse by the fact that the GOP is enabling increasingly despotic rule from the WH.

OK, Cruz. OK Gowdy. But exactly what is the Program, The PLan; how are we going to do this?

26 posted on 08/02/2014 2:11:04 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The GOP is dying. What do we do now?)
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To: SoConPubbie
President Obama our Lightweight Illegal African Ruler, asked for 3.7 billion dollars for the border.

Much of this would have been laundered through Acorn Affiliates back to the DNC.

27 posted on 08/02/2014 2:31:41 PM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: FreeReign

My point was that I think this is coordinated between Cruz and Boehner. Now is not the time for impeachment, because we simply couldn’t do it and we won’t be able to do it until we control the Senate. Which, because of the dysfunctionality of the GOP, may not even happen.


28 posted on 08/02/2014 2:32:58 PM PDT by livius
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To: SunkenCiv

‘The chaff is being separated from the wheat’, because the Winds of Washington are on now on Cruz Control - - - .

Make us proud Ted Cruz, Jeff Sessions and Mike Lee, make us proud to be Americans, again.


29 posted on 08/02/2014 2:33:23 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: SoConPubbie

I think we need to keep saying No to impeachment if only to throw the leftist media off, although we shouldent fail to point out why Obama legally should be impeached for his crimes.

If we win both houses in a sufficient majority then we can talk about actual impeachment. I have no doubt Obama will carry out an even more illegal act that can be used to spear head the movement when we have time.


30 posted on 08/02/2014 3:00:11 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: SoConPubbie

If the Ministry of Information saw Bonehead pick his teeth after lunch they would report “He’s moving toward impeachment.”


31 posted on 08/03/2014 5:31:12 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Boehner’s most significant accomplishment in Washington, D. C. has been to block a good capable man from holding the position of Speaker of the House.

Has anyone ever heard the RNC or someone thought of as a part of the GOPe leadership, criticizing Boehner?

Obama has been able to do much of what he has done, because there is no opposition to him. The Senate is in Democrat hands, and the House is in the hands of a man who has no leadership skills, no vision, and no visible character.


32 posted on 08/03/2014 8:43:36 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Think how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of the populace is worse than that.)
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