Skip to comments.House chaos a sign Boehner is Cruz’ing to Obama impeachment?
Posted on 08/02/2014 11:58:12 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
The Post articles on the House Republican revolt over the border bill and and the role Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) played in making it happen have nuggets of information that show why Ive been harping about the possibility of impeachment since June.
As the article on the revolt notes, Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and his allies said they had the votes to pass a border bill that not only speeded up deportations but also had a $659 million price tag, which was considerably less than the $3.7 billion President Obama asked for. And then the bill was pulled from the floor like so many others before it.
Why, exactly a year ago yesterday Boehner pulled a spending bill from the Transportation and Housing and Urban Development due to lack of support. A little more than a month later, on Sept. 11, 2013, Boehner pulled a temporary funding bill meant to stave off a government shutdown because the rank and file were upset it didnt defund Obamacare. On Dec. 20, 2012, Boehner pulled his fiscal cliff Plan B proposal because it did not have sufficient support from our members to pass. Oh, and there was that vote on March 15, 2011, when Republican defections forced Boehner to rely on Democrats to pass a three-week spending bill to keep the government from shutting down then.
I highlight these moments along Boehners legislative trail of failure and these are just the examples I could remember to show his inability to stand up to the far-right-wing of his calamitous caucus. As you see, his problems pre-date the arrival of Cruz in the Capitol in January. But the freshman senator from Texas has successfully exploited the leadership vacuum in the House
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The freshman senator also reminded them to be skeptical of promises from House leaders, particularly of show votes legislative action designed to placate conservatives that carry little, if any, weight.
Boehner will try his best to help his Bro Barry
You and the author of this Washington Post article are advocating for the same thing: Impeachment. That seems odd, doesn’t it?
Who knows what that Benghazi Committee might turn up.
Their supporters will continue to pretend that nothing has happened. They work very hard to cover for these guys, and they provide funding for them. Thus, they become partakers of this corruption.
Strikes me that now is the time for people like us FReepers to be building public support for impeachment while congressional pubbies keep mum. Then, if we win the Senate and chances for conviction look favorable, go for it, but not until then.
Rand Paul On Shutdown: "Even Though It Appeared I Was Participating In It, It Was A Dumb Idea"I said throughout the whole battle that shutting down the government was a dumb idea. Even though it did appear as if I was participating in it, I said it was a dumb idea. And the reason I voted for it, though, is that it's a conundrum. Here's the conundrum. We have a $17 trillion debt and people at home tell me you can't give the president a blank check. We just can't keep raising the debt ceiling without conditions. So unconditionally raising the debt ceiling, nobody at home wants me to vote for that and I can't vote for that. But the conundrum is if I don't we do approach these deadlines. So there is an impasse. In 2011, though, we had this impasse and the president did negotiate. We got the sequester. If we were to extend the sequester from discretionary spending to all the entitlements we would actually fix our problem within a few years.[Posted on 11/19/2013 12:16:51 PM by Third Person]
Still need 67 in the Senate. Ain’t happening soon.
The author isn’t advocating impeachment, he’s predicting it.
Even if the Pubs get control of the Senate they would need 2/3 to convict. Let’s just say that’s extremely unlikely.
He’s actually begging for it, as are much of the media and the Democrat Party leadership. It’s practically the only hope that they have left.
I’m predicting impeachment, but led by Democrats as he wheels come off the bus.
Okay. So you can't really respond to my points so you bring up a new point.
Anyway...they are goading Boehner to clear the way for the president to do whatever he wants with impeachment being taken off the table.
And that's exactly what Boehner (and you) have done. Odd isn't it.
Not unless Ebola strikes in the Senate Democrat cloakroom. (Tho, given the Obama administration's level of incompetence at everything else they've managed, an Ebola epidemic in Washington DC has a probability of something more than 0.)
BTW, didn't the House pass the bill last night? It's going to be buried deep in the heart of Yucca Mountain by Harry Reid -- but they did pass it. Shouldn't WaPo columnists at least read the front page of their own paper? I wouldn't -- but I'm not being paid by the Washington Post.
The WP is doing what they always do....inventing stuff. The HOR finally did something responsible. They listened to what their voters want.
I think there’s probably a strategy, believe it or not.
The House can impeach Obama to its heart’s content and he’ll remain in office. Only if the GOP gets the Senate can he actually be removed from office. Remember Bill Clinton, who actually was impeached...with no effect.
So I’d say the lawsuit is a gambit. It has real potential, but probably won’t make it through the system until Obama is leaving office. However, in the meantime, it’s keeping Obama off-guard, and that’s why he’s talking about impeachment all the time.
Impeachment is an Obama fundraising tool, and only fools would fall for it. But if we get more seats in the Senate (which seems less and less likely to me, alas), then it could be a reality, and Cruz and Boehner know it.
Even 67 republican senators wouldn’t be enough because of the RINO factor.
The Democrats are smart to use impeachment as a fund raising tool.
The Republicans such as Boehner, are foolish not to.
The Democrats goad Boehner to take impeachment off the table.
Boehner foolishly takes impeachment (and just about everything else) off the table.
The true beauty of them publishing the devious, demagogue, hate spewing, Dimocrats as they continue to become more shrill in their denouncement of impeachable offenses committed by Skippy the First is that they may well make the case for impeachment in the press before the idea catches on with the timid GOPe.
The federal government is constitutionally gridlocked at this time because Congress is divided. (Obama’s constitutionally indefensible executive orders are a different issue.)
For example, citizens understandably want Obama impeached out of office. The problem is that a split Congress cannot impeach Obama out of office at this time. This is because only the Senate has the constitutional authority to remove someone from office should the House of Representatives impeach someone. And Reid, who also needs to be impeached imo, will not allow the Senate to remove Obama from office.
Again, a lot of so-called House chaos is a actually consequence of Congress being divided imo.
As a side note to the federal government being gridlocked, please consider the following. Given the limited powers that the Founding States had delegated to Congress, gridlock is arguably the effect as to how the Founders wanted the federal government to normally operate. In other words, the Founder intended for citizens to work with their local and state government representatives, not federal lawmakers, to resolve domestic problems.
In fact, note that just about the only peacetime concern that citizens would contact their federal lawmakers about is the US Mail Service evidenced by the Constitution’s Clause 7 of Section 8 of Article I. Otherwise, the states have never delegated to Congress, expressly via the Constitution, the specific powers to establish most of the federal services that many citizens are depending on today.
"Free Republic is here to continue fighting for independence and freedom and against the unconstitutional encroachment of ever expanding socialist government...
We believe in the founding principles with all our hearts and mean to defend them to our dying breath..."
Not for long!
And he deserves ridicule, and I'm darn willing to give it.
Where is The Program, The Plan, The Leaders we need to get the Republic into recovery? This is Depression. It is made worse by the fact that the GOP is enabling increasingly despotic rule from the WH.
OK, Cruz. OK Gowdy. But exactly what is the Program, The PLan; how are we going to do this?
Much of this would have been laundered through Acorn Affiliates back to the DNC.
My point was that I think this is coordinated between Cruz and Boehner. Now is not the time for impeachment, because we simply couldn’t do it and we won’t be able to do it until we control the Senate. Which, because of the dysfunctionality of the GOP, may not even happen.
‘The chaff is being separated from the wheat’, because the Winds of Washington are on now on Cruz Control - - - .
Make us proud Ted Cruz, Jeff Sessions and Mike Lee, make us proud to be Americans, again.
I think we need to keep saying No to impeachment if only to throw the leftist media off, although we shouldent fail to point out why Obama legally should be impeached for his crimes.
If we win both houses in a sufficient majority then we can talk about actual impeachment. I have no doubt Obama will carry out an even more illegal act that can be used to spear head the movement when we have time.
If the Ministry of Information saw Bonehead pick his teeth after lunch they would report “He’s moving toward impeachment.”
Boehner’s most significant accomplishment in Washington, D. C. has been to block a good capable man from holding the position of Speaker of the House.
Has anyone ever heard the RNC or someone thought of as a part of the GOPe leadership, criticizing Boehner?
Obama has been able to do much of what he has done, because there is no opposition to him. The Senate is in Democrat hands, and the House is in the hands of a man who has no leadership skills, no vision, and no visible character.