Skip to comments.Fatally Shot FSU Professor Waited 19 Minutes for Ambulance to Arrive
Posted on 08/02/2014 6:45:23 PM PDT by nickcarraway
It took paramedics 19 minutes to arrive at the home of a Florida State University professor shot in his garage after a neighbor called 911 with the dispatchers confusion contributing to the delay and one EMS unit replaced by another, authorities said.
Dan Markel, 41, was shot as he drove his car into his garage on July 18. The killer fired a single bullet through the drivers window, striking him just beneath the jawline, sources told ABC News.
A neighbor called 911, noting that he happened upon Markels car because hed been worried about a recent string of break-ins. The neighbor said he found Markel sitting in the drivers seat of his car, his head covered in blood. Markel was still alive, the man told a dispatcher. But he wasnt responsive.
You need to send an ambulance in a hurry, an EMT, the neighbor said, according to audio of the call released by police Thursday.
I think you need to hurry.
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Because the dispatcher didnt initially hear the caller mention anything about a gunshot wound, the response was delayed.
The officer is going to be there first. [The EMT] is not going to come until we figure out whats going on, but they are on the way as well, OK? the dispatcher said.
They better be if this guys got a shot
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Things sometimes do get forgotten in confusion. Though if someone is reported alive but unresponsive with a bloody head at the wheel of a car, I might ask “do you think he could have been shot?”
Man 19 minutes is quick here. An hour is good unless they get lost.
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As a former dispatcher myself, “man down” is all it should have taken to dispatch the paramedics.
He’s not responsive, so you decide not to send EMS but, a cop?
Well, hopefully he brought his powdered donuts with him so he could mark the body outline.
That is just incompetence.
I did not know this. It makes sense that they would triage and catagorize the level of emergency. If I ever have to help someone like that, I will be sure to state clearly and repeatedly if nec. that someone has just been shot.
Is there training/advice on the best way to place a 911 call?
Later info here.
More to this than meets the eye:
Well, they sent someone who kid finish the job.
Well they used a gun so it must have been those Tea Baggers.
Dialing “911” is worse than dialing “Dial A Prayer.”
Whose parents are upset because he gave their precious a “B” instead of an “A”? What students are upset because they got a grade they are unhappy with? What whackjob student infatuated with the ex-wife thought he could clear up her divorce and make her want him by killing the guy? What did the ex-wife stand to gain?
Oh no you dint...
Affirmative Action anyone?
good to know. At first, I thought it was another banker death.
That does it. I’m going to tell everyone I know that if I ever get shot pulling into the driveway, to just drag me to the hospital themselves and that I’ll do the same for them.
It took five minutes for paramedics to arrive to the scene when my son was hit by a car. That made all the difference in the world. Also, an off duty police officer was on the scene quicker than that because he was outside when it happened, and he ran to the scene and held my son still as he was bleeding profusely. The paramedics’ notes from the drive to the hospital stated that they did not think son would make it and questioned whether or not to give him the needed IVs because they thought he would be dead on arrival. Alas, he lived. The trauma unit provided excellent care. Timing is everything. Well, help from Above is everything.
Somebody out there might have a motive.
It’s interesting. For my part, I always thought the most compelling justification for incarceration was not retribution, but, rather, mere prevention of further crimes by the confined perpetrators.
I’m more of a fan of forced restitution plus 20% per the Torah.
I’ll not quibble with the source. Sometimes they just don’t have it to cough up, having dissipated it fruitlessly.
No doubt that would be the majority of cases. All I'm saying is that prison should make them work and send what would otherwise be a fair paycheck to the victims as restitution.
That’s fair. And, besides, fruitful prison labor keeps them away from a life of crime victimizing others (see: prevention :-).
And the more fruitful they become the sooner they get out.
For those who don’t know what retributive justice is, and that included me:
Retributive Justice is a theory of justice that considers punishment, if proportionate, to be the best response to crime. When an offender breaks the law, justice requires that they forfeit something in return. Retribution should be distinguished from vengeance. Unlike revenge, retribution is directed only at wrongs, has inherent limits, is not personal, involves no pleasure at the suffering of others, and employs procedural standards.
“When seconds count ...”
Wait, wait jes a minute. Fust ah haffa axe you some quessions. An if you argues wif me, ah’m gonna hang up, gnome sayin’?
If you live within four miles of a ambulance station...you might get the typical arrival within eight minutes. From the rural area where I grew up....it’ll take twenty minutes minimum for an ambulance to arrive. In some cases, you’d be better off for a neighbor to throw you in the back of a truck and just haul off at seventy miles an hour.
This is all leading folks to push for chopper-ambulance services now. The chopper can usually be at the house in twenty minutes and take you to a real hospital sixty miles away in a matter of twenty minutes.
This was in Statesboro GA in 1986. They didn't even have 911 set up. We had to look up the phone number of the ambulance service.
That’s part of why we have the right to keep and bear arms. A 44 magnum responds at around 1500 fps. A cop responds in around 10-20 minutes. I can do the math.
My lawyer would be busy....that cannot be protocol...
Sho nuf mofo.
Unbelievable that there was even a thought of whether to use IV care or not!
P> petitfour, so glad your son survived.
Thanks! Son will always have TBI. He doesn’t remember what happened. He doesn’t remember anything about his three weeks in ICU though we have gone back for visits and to say thank you to those who gave him such great care. It strengthens their faith to see someone survive against the odds. Watching the trauma unit in action for those three weeks was eye opening. What great people with great skills! But even greater is their faith!
A bad 911 service is unacceptable. Every single second counts.
It was probably the ex wife. They were in a legal dispute.