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UKRAINE: MAP THE ANTI-TERRORIST OPERATION IN UKRAINE. SUMMARY FOR AUGUST 2, 2014- Burko
Burko News ^ | Roman Burko

Posted on 08/02/2014 7:08:27 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com

Luhansk Border and Southern Region

The Russian Federation continues to transfer troops across the border, heading towards Rovenky and Sverdlovsk. Given that the Russian troops are dug in near Gukovo (Rostov Oblast of the Russian Federation), the decision of the ATO command to withdraw its forces towards Chervonopartyzansk is probably correct. Yes, this exposes a part of the border but it also move units to a much safer position. Besides, in case of a successful Ukrainian advance upon Shakhtarsk, Torez and Snizhne from the West and North West and an advance from the area of Savur-Mohyla towards Dmytrivka-Dyakove-Rovenky, the terrorists will be pushed out towards the Russian Federation and will become the problem of the Russian border guards.

According to the data of our group (Inform Napalm) the ATO forces failed to retain control over the M04 highway and as a result the Ukrainian units in Lutuhyne and Heorhiivka were cut off. Given that the terrorists are led by experts from the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, and not a rabble of separatist criminals, we should expect an attack upon the grouping of the ATO forces from the direction of Rovenky and Alchevsk (see the map) in the next few days. The latest developments show that the terrorists are fighting in a tactically competent manner. Luhansk Region: Northern Areas

Yesterday we predicted the possibility of a counter attack on the rear of the Ukrainian forces advancing upon Pervomaisk. However it seems the terrorists have missed their opportunity. However, they continue to build up their forces in Pervomaisk, Irmino, Stakhankov, Bryanka, and Kirovsk. Today we have slightly modified the map in the area of Lysychansk by moving the northern holding lines slightly down. Our analysis of the terrorist grouping in that area and the other grouping that was located near Lysychansk shows the approximate equality of the forces from both sides. However, by all theory of military warfare the attack forces should exceed the forces of the defensive side three to four times. This brings us to the conclusion that the militants consciously retreated to the new lines. This is probably their strategic maneuver and not a measure that ATO has forced upon them. Donetsk Region: North of Donetsk and Horlivka

The Ukrainian forces continue to encircle the terrorist grouping in Horlivka. Yasynuvata has also become a stumbling block in that terrorist units continue to fight for this area, which is why there is no final success in the encirclement of this area. Donetsk Region: Southern and Eastern/Central Areas

The terrorists have regrouped for a counterattack in the area of Marinka and Khartsyzk-Shakhtarsk.

Over the past day the militants continued to counter attack in the area of Shakhtarsk, along the N21 highway and in the north-eastern direction (Kirovske and Rozsypne). We would like to point out that if the ATO forces successfully advance towards Fashchivka, they could be counterattacked by terrorist forces from Stakhanov and Irmino, moving towards Shakhtarsk. If successful, this counter attack could lead to the Ukrainian attack group been cut off. Comments on Military Strategy

Now let us make a practical suggestion. Currently the Ukrainian forces are not fighting the regular military forces. They are fighting the forces of the Russian Federation, which imitate the terrorists. If there is a great desire to liberate Donetsk with minimal losses, you need to apply the same tactics of the enemy. Remember how the invasion of the `Colorado’s’ (the stripedpest) started in the Donbas. They captured Slovyansk and consolidated, spread to Kramatorsk and consolidated, then went on to next city. The Ukrainian forces still live in the old field armies of the USSR Constitution: liberated the town and moved on. As a result they receive acts of sabotage in the rear. Why not try at first to solve the problem in the Pervomaisk area, and only then to move to Shakhtarsk? By “solve the problem” we mean seizing the city, and fully mopping-up the city and the surrounding area, and then holding the area. Such holding actions require the detention of all people involved in sponsoring or supporting terrorists. The Ukrainian forces should apply the rule that anyone who has ever held in their hands the weapons with no right to its possession is a criminal, regardless of whether or not it has been shot. Tough? Yes, but otherwise we get a Chechnya for next 10 years…

Translated by Victoria Field and Oxana Tinko, edited by Larry Field


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 08/02/2014 7:08:27 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com; tcrlaf; FormerLib
UMCRM: You are doing great harm by posting this kind of obvious propaganda, starting with the unsupportable technique of referring to the local fighters as "terrorists", when it is the Ukrainian governmental forces (Army and National Guard and paramilitaries) themselves who are committing terror by their carpet bombing of the towns of the Donbass.

If you blindly believe everything you read from sources with such obvious biases, you are being fooled.

2 posted on 08/02/2014 7:41:11 PM PDT by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
Sounds as if the Dutch are fed up with the lies coming out of Kiev about MH17.
3 posted on 08/02/2014 7:44:56 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
A "more accurate" map, based on numerous media reports: Note that on this map, the Marinovka(???) checkpoint seems to have changed hands again.
4 posted on 08/02/2014 7:49:05 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Interesting analysis...

Brief Answers to Important Questions, August 2, 2014

Original: Colonel Cassad Translated from Russian by Gleb Bazov

What is happening on the northern outskirts of Donetsk? – The enemy has taken Avdeevka and is concentrating its forces for an assault on Yasinovataya; the offensive is expected tomorrow or the day after tomorrow.

What is happening with the Southern Cauldron? – According to confirmed information, negotiations with respect to the surrender of a part of the surrounded forces are ongoing at this exact moment. Approximately 1,500 men are ready to surrender; they are asking for passage to the territory of the Junta in exchange for surrendering all their weapons, the remaining ammunition and the surviving military hardware (altogether approximately 60-70 armoured vehicles, most of which are without fuel, including up to 30 tanks, BMPs, BTRs, Grad MLRS, as well as a number of artillery pieces).

What is happening in Lutugino? – The enemy has dug in in the centre of the city and is transferring in reservers from the north of Lugansk in order to create a grouping for further offensive operations to the west of Lugansk. The Militia is concentrating its forces in order to attempt to retake Lutugino.

What is happening in Marinovka? – Having taken Marinovka, the enemy attempted to advance further toward the surrounded grouping of its forces, but failed. Artillery fire complicates the movement of the enemy forces and, despite taking control of Marinovka, it was unable to complete the strategic task of de-blockading the Southern Cauldron.

What is happening near Saur-Mogila? – Saur-Mogila is firmly controlled by the Militia despite being semi-encircled; attempts to conquer the height are being thwarted by the lack of infantry and its low combat qualities. Artillery and tanks are unable, at this time, to compensate for this deficiency.

What is happening in Shakhtersk? – Everything is in order near Shakhtersk, as well as near Torez and Snezhnoye; the 25th “Aero-grave” Paratrooper Brigade that broke through on July 27th sustained large losses in terms of killed, wounded and captured personnel and lost its offensive capabilities. The enemy is unable to transfer its reserves to this area – all the reserves have already been deployed in the area of Marinovka and Saur-Mogila. Accordingly, the enemy will be unable to proceed further here without regrouping its forces.

Will Donetsk be encircled? – Because the assault through Shakhtersk and Debaltsevo failed, the Junta will seek to perform a close encirclement, with the next strike to be performed by the northern grouping. The nearest task is to take control of Yasinovataya, followed by an assault on Enakievo. If this plan is realized, then the situation in Donetsk from the standpoint of lines of communication will become threatening.

What is happening with Vostok? – At this time, there are three different groups of forces operating under the name of Vostok (one of them, instead of fighting, is engaged in racketeering in Donetsk). The name has successfully turned into a brand. In the near future we can expect new draconian orders aimed at the elimination of banditry at the rear lines.

What is happening with Borodai? – For now, Borodai will continue to retain his position; he will return to Donetsk after concluding all the pending business in Moscow and Rostov.

What is happening in Stakhanov and Alchevsk? – Having withdrawn from the Lisichansk Protrusion, Mozgovoi’s group redeployed to their new positions and continues to rattle the enemy with their attacks in the area of Pervomaisk, Popasnaya, and to the north of Debaltsevo. Their main assignment is not to allow the enemy with impunity to entrench itself on the occupied territory (resulting in the control over Pervomaisk and Popasnaya passing back and forth between the warring factions), as well as to draw onto itself a part of the enemy forces to prevent the Ukrainian army from immediately starting an offensive from Debaltsevo deep into the DPR. In essence, their goal is to draw fire.

What is happening with the Lugansk airport? – The airport continues to be blockaded; the enemy’s attempts to break out continue to fail. Daily, the airport is shelled using 3-5 Grad MLRS and several mortars. It is expected that, if the Southern Cauldron is dealt with in the next few days, then at least one battery of D-30 howitzers can be transferred to continue strikes on the airport.

Additional information of interest: a Swedish prosecutor has recognized that what is happening in Ukraine ought to be considered a war, rather than an “anti-terrorist operation”. Details will be made available in the nearest future.


5 posted on 08/02/2014 7:54:29 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: wildandcrazyrussian

I am not “being fooled.”
I report from these links but also receive multiple reports from feet on the ground in Ukraine.

I post.
You have the freedom to determine from your own sources what you will determine to believe.

BTW, there have been MANY that share the opposite view & that is OK. The current residents have PERSONAL experience to PROVE whom the REAL terrorists are.


6 posted on 08/02/2014 7:59:58 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com; All

I have no problem with UMCR posting straight-from-the-tap Propaganda from biased Kiev sites. In today’s world, EVERYTHING is propaganda, and it is up to us to divine the truth from it. And that is what this place is for, isn’t it?

There are always two sides to every story, and one man’s “Terrorist” is another’s “Freedom Fighter”.

I do, however, have a real problem with those who’s only goal is to silence all non-Kiev approved news and viewpoints.


7 posted on 08/02/2014 8:14:05 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
PLEASE, I BELIEVE YOU DO CARE... BUT...YOU ARE USING BAD SOURCES! IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO HAVE TRUST WORTHY SOURCES! This photo of a post post is interpreted from the RUSSIAN Михаил (mikle1) wrote it & LIED TO YOU!, 2014-08-01 12:14:00 http://mikle1.livejournal.com/4506236.html IN FACT: The aricle you reference is by Staff Writer Charles Sanders. His tweet July 21st said this: http://www.pomonieuws.nl/2014/02/er-valt-nog-altijd-wat-de-kiezen-tussen.html "Charles Sanders @cstelegraaf Follow Artillery shelling recently at Center #MH17 #Donetsk fear for mission. Battle of the city seems to be started. 6: 30 AM-29 Jul 2014 Ukraine, Ukraine further more, read the Dutch article in De Telegraaf Tuesday, July 29, 2014, 11:12 AM - Cry Rutte to Ukraine © OUDSHOORN, RENE Prime Minister Mark Rutte Tuesday Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko asked to cease around the crash site of MH17 hostilities. That place was again unable to reach for, among others, Dutch forensic experts and military police. Tuesday According to the Government Information Rutte, expressed his great concern about the fact that the international experts of the crash site again today do not seem to be able to achieve and that this precious time for storing and identifying the victims is lost. Rutte urged by the RVD with the Ukrainian president, urgently for the cessation of hostilities in order to make. Humanitarian work for the relatives may Poroshenko President Rutte, assured that he will do all the work to make. that access is possible ACTUALLY THE UKRAINE GOVERNMENT DID HONOR THE CEASE FIRE IN ORDER TO ATTEMPT HUMANITARIAN WORK!!!
8 posted on 08/02/2014 9:01:10 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

“ACTUALLY THE UKRAINE GOVERNMENT DID HONOR THE CEASE FIRE”

OK...
You had me until that part.

Kiev again used a self-declared “Cease-fire” to try and gain a military advantage, launching an offensive into the cease-fire zone, likely thinking the Rebels had left it undefended.

Those are the undeniable facts. Anything else is BS.


9 posted on 08/03/2014 12:28:20 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

No. Go back & check your sources.
This followed Dutch request. However, terrorists could have cared less!


10 posted on 08/03/2014 6:25:50 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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