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Army announces new camouflage uniform pattern (again!)
Stars & Stripes ^ | August 1, 2014 | Chris Carroll

Posted on 08/02/2014 7:57:33 PM PDT by Timber Rattler

The Army has selected a new camouflage pattern to begin fielding next year, an unidentified senior Army spokesperson announced in a statement late Thursday.

“The Army has confirmed through testing that the pattern would offer exceptional concealment, which directly enhances force protection and survivability for Soldiers,” according to the statement from the Army.

The pattern will be used in all combatant commands, including Afghanistan, the Army said. Uniforms and equipment with the existing pattern won’t be discarded, but replaced only as they wear out.

The pattern was developed by the Army under the name Scorpion W2 to replace the much-maligned Universal Camouflage Pattern, a pixelated combination of green, gray and tan that some soldiers said provided bad concealment in most places.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: army; boondoggle; camouflage; fail; uniform; usarmy; wasteofmoney
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After spending millions more, in light of the current soldier RIFs, the Army ultimately decides to go back to bleached out NATO-pattern woodland camo from the 1980s-1990s?


1 posted on 08/02/2014 7:57:34 PM PDT by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

Sorry I expected pink...


2 posted on 08/02/2014 8:00:07 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Timber Rattler

Muted flecktarn.


3 posted on 08/02/2014 8:00:09 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

I liked the Vietnam Tiger stripe myself.


4 posted on 08/02/2014 8:02:09 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: Timber Rattler

A Gilly suit for everybody. LOL


5 posted on 08/02/2014 8:03:12 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: Timber Rattler

I was reading the history of my Father’s WWII outfit and one thing caught my interest.

Their commander sent several hundred boots in for repair. I suspect that they would just throw them away now.


6 posted on 08/02/2014 8:03:53 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Timber Rattler

guessing an Zero donor needs some revenue to be donated back to the Rats......


7 posted on 08/02/2014 8:07:11 PM PDT by Hogblog
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To: Timber Rattler

What the best camo is, will depend so much on where the troops garbed in it are deployed. Why does there have to be just one pattern? Uniforms surely can’t be so pricey that there can not be a choice of patterns for various missions, just like there is a choice of weaponry.


8 posted on 08/02/2014 8:08:21 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Timber Rattler

New? Looks like the older, old pattern.


9 posted on 08/02/2014 8:08:39 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Timber Rattler
I was on a seabee base in Mississippi and there were about 6 different camouflage utilities. The Navy had a blue and green pair. The Marines had a green and brown pair. The air force had their own pattern and then there was the Army pattern.

When I was in the Corps in the 80's every branch wore the same one. The head gear differed though.

10 posted on 08/02/2014 8:09:41 PM PDT by BBell (I'm cynical and sarcastic and therefore I love Ann Coulter)
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To: Timber Rattler

Made in China, too?


11 posted on 08/02/2014 8:10:59 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It probably is about as good as any for woodlands.

I just glanced at my “Realtree” overalls hanging on a chair and there is a lot of difference and I think for this area the Realtree is better.


12 posted on 08/02/2014 8:11:19 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: onedoug

If not in El Salvador


13 posted on 08/02/2014 8:11:25 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Timber Rattler
follow the money...
14 posted on 08/02/2014 8:11:26 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: yarddog

Commercial camos are probably best, just because they have to make it in the market.

Right now most of the activity is in the Middle East where they don’t have a lot of woodlands. Is this one more attempt to come up with a compromise that will work in both desert and woodland?


15 posted on 08/02/2014 8:12:54 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Vendome
New? Looks like the older, old pattern.

Yep, looks strikingly similar to the original nomex version of the BDU I wore back in the late 90s. Third uniform change for the Army in less than a decade...but, hey, DoD uniform contractors gotta eat too.

16 posted on 08/02/2014 8:13:18 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
What the best camo is, will depend so much on where the troops garbed in it are deployed.

True but why can't all the services wear the same pattern of green, brown etc? Each branch having their own style is very costly. When I was in all the services wore the same style, be it green or brown.

17 posted on 08/02/2014 8:14:52 PM PDT by BBell (I'm cynical and sarcastic and therefore I love Ann Coulter)
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To: Vendome
"New? Looks like the older, old pattern."

Very much so, 'specially doen at the trouser leg.

Probably vast warehouses full of the old ripstop stuff still unused.

18 posted on 08/02/2014 8:16:33 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Timber Rattler

How not to be seen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltmMJntSfQI


19 posted on 08/02/2014 8:16:48 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Timber Rattler

But what is the gay angle? There must be something gay. The only things that happen have something to do with gayness.


20 posted on 08/02/2014 8:17:07 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: BBell

Ground troops no matter from what branch would make sense to all be using the same garb, but there are differences based on specialty. I mean who cares if you are wearing camo while flying an aircraft, and if you are coming in amphibiously you might want yet a different camo than on land, etc.


21 posted on 08/02/2014 8:17:41 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: BBell
"True but why can't all the services wear the same pattern of green, brown etc?"

Aw. c'mon, the swabbies really NEED those blue "camo" utilities. For what, exactly, I do not think anyone has ever offered an opinion.

Same for the Air Force. Kind of hard to hide on the flight line...............

22 posted on 08/02/2014 8:19:33 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: ecomcon

A dirty little secret about gay is that the gayer they look the less they like it. Gay really swoons over straight, though they will never say that in public.


23 posted on 08/02/2014 8:20:11 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Timber Rattler

In World War II, which we won incidently, servicemen wore the drab solid tones of their respective branches. They didn’t try to look like a tree or a rock.


24 posted on 08/02/2014 8:21:35 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: BBell
I was on a seabee base in Mississippi and there were about 6 different camouflage utilities. The Navy had a blue and green pair.

Blue camo is an oxymoron.

25 posted on 08/02/2014 8:21:56 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: headstamp 2

Ha! Your comment reminded me of this 70s movie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076145/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_96 In that movie either Ben Gazzara or Paul Winfield says something to the effect of “I love tiger stripes” as they are putting on their fatigues. I haven’t seen that movie in almost 30 years.


26 posted on 08/02/2014 8:21:57 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: ecomcon

The uniform provides a distinctly ‘feminine’ silhouette. We expect that this may reduce the incidence of homosex propositions and assaults under field, low-light conditions.


27 posted on 08/02/2014 8:22:11 PM PDT by bakeneko
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To: Timber Rattler

Good choice!


28 posted on 08/02/2014 8:22:47 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: SeaHawkFan

Against an oceanscape, it might work.

Of course with today’s electronic vision enhancement systems, probably any troop in any kind of camo can be made to look like a glaring neon sign (e.g. in the infrared). They might as well almost wear civvies.


29 posted on 08/02/2014 8:25:45 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: onedoug

You beat me to it -— I was going to ask if these would be made in China, too.


30 posted on 08/02/2014 8:26:59 PM PDT by LTC.Ret (I was Constitutional Conservative when it wasn't Cool)
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To: ecomcon

The Velcro is kinda gay.


31 posted on 08/02/2014 8:27:21 PM PDT by LT Brass Bancroft
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To: Timber Rattler

Multicam without the vertical elements.

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32 posted on 08/02/2014 8:28:17 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: vladimir998

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=girGt7R5F08


33 posted on 08/02/2014 8:28:33 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: Timber Rattler

retro camo?


34 posted on 08/02/2014 8:29:10 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Timber Rattler

I wanted to buy the best cammo I could find, but I could never find it.


35 posted on 08/02/2014 8:29:26 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: SpaceBar

http://ww2-camouflage.blogspot.com/


36 posted on 08/02/2014 8:30:05 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: headstamp 2

Faded in the sun a few weeks it was fine when you were lying down or crawling. Crouching or standing up, the dark and light stripes were the exact opposite of the surrounding brush and shadows


37 posted on 08/02/2014 8:30:27 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: TADSLOS

You’re right. It looks like “mini Woodland” or some such.


38 posted on 08/02/2014 8:32:19 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: SeaHawkFan

My father and uncle are retired sailors. We all thought the blue camos were silly. I mean if you fall over board how they going to find you?


39 posted on 08/02/2014 8:32:26 PM PDT by BBell (I'm cynical and sarcastic and therefore I love Ann Coulter)
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To: Rashputin

Tiger stripes work fine for tigers.


40 posted on 08/02/2014 8:34:10 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Timber Rattler; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; ...

Active Duty ping.


41 posted on 08/02/2014 8:34:14 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: Rashputin

Was that used by Green Berets mostly?


42 posted on 08/02/2014 8:34:54 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: LT Brass Bancroft

Sounds really, really, loud during those times your buttons are keeping you too far off the ground, too. If you know what I mean, I guess.


43 posted on 08/02/2014 8:35:06 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: SpaceBar

For a short while, Americans wore camouflage during the hedge fighting in the days following the Normandy landings. It was the same pattern worn by our Marines in the Pacific theater. They stopped wearing it because it looked too much like SS flektarn camo.


44 posted on 08/02/2014 8:35:19 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The gayer they look, the less everyone likes it.


45 posted on 08/02/2014 8:36:24 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel

True enough, the non-gay agree about that.


46 posted on 08/02/2014 8:36:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
And on them, it's oriented with the light and shadows, vertically when they're in their normal upright or crouching stance.


47 posted on 08/02/2014 8:39:06 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I’ve always thought that they should be able to turn the shirt inside out for a quick change of patterns.


48 posted on 08/02/2014 8:39:57 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: B4Ranch

Too good an idea for anyone to do it


49 posted on 08/02/2014 8:42:03 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Timber Rattler

What some us called Salad Suit.


50 posted on 08/02/2014 8:42:25 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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