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US Ebola victim arrives at Emory University hospital in Atlanta
UK Guardian ^ | 8-2-2014 | Jessica Glenza

Posted on 08/02/2014 8:22:05 PM PDT by tcrlaf

One of two American aid workers infected with the deadly Ebola virus returned to the US from Africa on Saturday. Both were volunteers treating Ebola patients in Liberia, one of three countries affected in a West African outbreak that has so far killed 729 people, the deadliest outbreak in history.

Dr Kent Brantly of Texas was transported to the Emory University hospital in Atlanta, where he will be quarantined in a sophisticated isolation unit. He returned to the US in a private jet outfitted with a containment tent.

Transport of the second aid worker, the South Carolina missionary Nancy Writebol, is expected to be completed early in the week. She is also expected to be treated at Emory. Writebol is travelling later because the jet is only designed to carry one patient at a time.

Brantly arrived in the US at Dobbins Air Force Base in Marietta, Georgia, and was driven by ambulance to the hospital, about 15 miles away. At the hospital, one person in protective clothing guided another, believed to be Brantly, towards a building. The ambulance was flanked by SUVs and police cars. About 20 members of the media were present at the hospital. There was no noticeable police presence and all roads were open.

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KEYWORDS: atlanta; ebol; ebola
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“I want to underscore that Ebola poses little risk to the US general population,” said Dr Stephen Monroe, head of the Centres for Disease Control’s National Centre for Emerging Zoonotic and Infectious Diseases, in a press call last week. “While it’s clear there is an increased risk for working with patients with Ebola, we’re confident that the standard of care in the US would prevent much of the transmission if a case were to show up here.”

I wonder what was said about the Spanish Flu?

1 posted on 08/02/2014 8:22:05 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; ...
Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

2 posted on 08/02/2014 8:23:32 PM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
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To: tcrlaf

A criminal level of arrogance. 200,000,000 American lives risked on the promise they know what they are doing. The world’s expert caught the disease, didn’t he know what he was doing?

The country is in the hands of utter fools and evil men.


3 posted on 08/02/2014 8:28:10 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: tcrlaf

We’re from the federal government and we’re here to help.


4 posted on 08/02/2014 8:29:03 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...

Ping...


5 posted on 08/02/2014 8:32:14 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: null and void; All

And I will say again, NBC news last night said that Emory University hospital is one OF ONLY FOUR hospitals in the US that are equipped with the special isolation units.

That’s right, folks.

ONLY FOUR!!!


6 posted on 08/02/2014 8:33:09 PM PDT by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: tcrlaf

We must learn a lot about this virus. I hope they are doing it the right way and rather think they are. Even though only about 1400 people in Africa have been struck down this time, the potential for worldwide disaster is there. I still think that Africa is where we should put our effort but hope they can learn something here.


7 posted on 08/02/2014 8:37:33 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: djf

If they already have four special units in the nation, they probably weren’t created with the idea that if we could only ban this one Christian missionary doctor from coming home for medical treatment, then Ebola can be totally avoided here.


8 posted on 08/02/2014 8:38:15 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: tcrlaf

See tag line.


9 posted on 08/02/2014 8:38:25 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Welcome to Obamastan! (Mrs. Yellowdoghunter))
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To: tcrlaf

They’re unnecessarily bringing in these infected Americans plus they are trying to get every illegal alien with a third world disease into this country.


10 posted on 08/02/2014 8:44:40 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: American in Israel
As with anything from this admin, there has to be a political angle to this dopey manuever. My guess is that, should things turn out well - full recovery for the two patients, maybe even some small (alleged) progress in finding a way to combat Ebola - then expect Obama to do an end zone dance that would make Billy "White Shoes" Johnson blush. And all in the name of Obamacare, I'm sure.
11 posted on 08/02/2014 8:51:53 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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To: JimSEA

Not everyone who gets the virus dies, or sometimes even becomes seriously ill.

Learning about WHY this is, could be the key to preventing it from becoming a high mortality pandemic. If it can be whittled down to the level of an average flu, it’s obviously less of a concern.

There are a lot of jungle diseases in Africa. Maybe a second infection with something else is the key to making an Ebola infection be fatal.


12 posted on 08/02/2014 8:52:32 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Major Matt Mason

And Obamacare had nothing to do with the existence of these medical centers.


13 posted on 08/02/2014 8:53:10 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Major Matt Mason

(I mean seriously.)


14 posted on 08/02/2014 8:53:29 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: tcrlaf
I wonder what was said about the Spanish Flu?

The Spanish flu spread by aerosols, which is not a concern with Ebola which spreads by droplets or direct contact with bodily fluids. The concern is not with a patient who is being transported under complete isolation conditions. The concern is that someone returns from Africa, begins feeling sick with fever and muscle aches, and spreads the disease before anyone knows that he/she is sick with Ebola. The symptoms of Ebola match the symptoms of a lot of diseases at first.

15 posted on 08/02/2014 8:54:06 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom

Both are viruses... but the requirement of a more gross contact than an aerosol might suggest some bacterial (or paramecial?) adjuvant that enables Ebola to do its dirtiest work. Catching BOTH infections would be fatal; Ebola alone, perhaps not.


16 posted on 08/02/2014 8:57:28 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: tcrlaf

While in garrison during a deployment in Iraq, I showed up at sick-call with the sniffles. This was at the height of “H1N1.”

They had me sit in a chair outside the building and made me wear a surgical mask.

I’m glad to hear Ebola isn’t as serious as H1N1.


17 posted on 08/02/2014 8:58:23 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: tcrlaf

HG Wells points out at the end of ‘War of the Worlds’ that microscopic terrors saved mankind (and I suppose could end it). We don’t have complete dominion over this world.


18 posted on 08/02/2014 9:02:32 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: exDemMom

So, you would openly escort an ebola patient, without concern, for any transgenic inclusion?


19 posted on 08/02/2014 9:05:08 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: exDemMom

...” which is not a concern with Ebola which spreads by droplets or direct contact with bodily fluids.”

This doctor had been careful to remain fully contained within his bio-suit while handling his patient. According to reports, his skin never contacted bodily fluids.

But thanks for your guarantees - what’s your next one?


20 posted on 08/02/2014 9:05:13 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: tcrlaf

Poses “little” risk and prevent “much” of the transmission “if” a case were to show up here. This does not inspire confidence to me. They are acknowledging that there is a chance! Argh! But, I guess that would have nothing to do with transporting someone with the disease and exposing who knows who to it, here in the US.


21 posted on 08/02/2014 9:06:42 PM PDT by ozaukeemom (Is there even a republic left?)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Agreed!


22 posted on 08/02/2014 9:13:06 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Rembrandt

Except when he disrobed... kind of hard to take it off without touching it.


23 posted on 08/02/2014 9:25:53 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ozaukeemom

In Africa there are quarantine camps, of which the people not actually sick will get as close to the edges of as they can. And generally the illness will burn out in the camp and the quarantine ends.

This seems to act like a disease that needs a superinfection to be fatal.


24 posted on 08/02/2014 9:28:23 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ozaukeemom
Poses “little” risk and prevent “much” of the transmission “if” a case were to show up here. This does not inspire confidence to me.

I know.....that jumped out at me as well. Well a case did show up here....they brought it. I can only hope they can prevent "most" of the transmission from this case.

Idiots.
25 posted on 08/02/2014 9:47:52 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey NSA!)
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To: Girlene

Just read an article where the disease is moving faster than anticipated. I have no faith in any government agencies. I just keep thinking “here comes Captain Tripps”.


26 posted on 08/02/2014 9:56:02 PM PDT by ozaukeemom (Is there even a republic left?)
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To: Girlene

You do realize that scores of infected people not showing signs or symptoms could make there way from Africa to the US on regular commercial flights. Those are the people that should be your concern.

One person coming to one of our best infectious disease research centers under extraordinary safety measures to allow the disease to be better studied is in the best interest of everyone.


27 posted on 08/02/2014 9:59:56 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Rembrandt

Did you see the pictures of the NGO staff trying to care for the sick in Africa?

All they had were gowns, gloves and masks.

To the best of my knowledge they had no decon procedures or clean rooms...they were in fact in a tent outside.

Stories to the effect that these two Americans had hazmat suits and were infected somehow in spite of the protection are just nonsense.

They came in contact somehow, and due to the numbers I am thinking that their quarters became contaminated by one or more sick aid workers..

The only people spreading distortions are the usual collection of pansy azz chem trail, “plum Island” conspiracy peddlers in their pajamas.


28 posted on 08/02/2014 10:01:24 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: ozaukeemom

Here comes Jerry Garcia? From the Greatful Dead? I don’t get it. FYI Captain Tripps is a nickname for Jerry Garcia.


29 posted on 08/02/2014 10:07:41 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: American in Israel

“The country is in the hands of utter fools and evil men.”

...and women...Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Reid, Boehner, Holder, et al...maybe time for...


30 posted on 08/02/2014 10:13:51 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: Blue Highway
Captain Trips
31 posted on 08/02/2014 10:15:40 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey NSA!)
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To: tcrlaf

The government can’t find an IRS employee’s emails but they promise they will keep Ebola from spreading in the United States. ROTFL! Funny stuff.


33 posted on 08/02/2014 10:33:19 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (America is not a refugee camp! It is my home!!!)
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To: null and void

The problem with many dead from a disease outbreak is that the decaying bodies causes even more diseases.... it’s a brutal downward spiral that could get out of hand every fast.


34 posted on 08/02/2014 10:33:22 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: ozaukeemom
Ebola spiraling out of control: WHO
35 posted on 08/02/2014 10:40:36 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey NSA!)
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To: Kirkwood

They are all concerning.


36 posted on 08/02/2014 10:41:43 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey NSA!)
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To: ScamFix

Not buying that unless we get definitive test results from a lab.

Ebola generally has a gestation period of 2-20 days...most being in the 1-2 week range.

If a African contracted it in Africa, chances are he would be very sick or dead before he travelled all the way up through mexico.

But even so, it’s very unlikely that any kind of African style outbreak could occur in the US. Our sanitary conditions are much better here and we do not have cultural habits of close contact with the dead and dying as they do in Africa.

In fact, it is this cultural affinity for families washing the body for burial and close contact with the dead family member that is making the disease difficult if not impossible at time to control and it has to burn out.

That won’t happen in the US. As I said, it’s a contact spread. That is why for nearly 4 decades of monitoring the disease that less than 3 thousand have died from it. We lose way more than that to the flu in one year.


37 posted on 08/02/2014 10:44:34 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Far as I know, the most recent numbers were 1300 infected with about half dying so far..

I think they can deal with it. It’s just that they have yet to see a decline in infections which tells you that the disease is on the down slope.

Until then, it is out of control, technically and numerically.

It is however the biggest outbreak they have had as it has spread to 4 different areas.


38 posted on 08/02/2014 10:55:17 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: ScamFix

One other thing...

Regarding the Mexican mess..The diseases they are bringing in, except for TB which many of the previously vaccinated may no longer be protected, are generally the ones we vaccinate for.

As for scabies and stuff like that, control is fairly easy and the little buggers (arachnids)are easily killed and are not fatal. Dogs get the a similar bug, it’s called mange in a dog. there are some scabies that can affect both dog,s cats and people. Outbreaks are common in the US already.

But that’s all problems we can deal with.

Having said that, it should not be happening at all.


39 posted on 08/02/2014 11:02:37 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: tcrlaf

Once ebola is out in the population, it will become an epidemic. All the hazmat suits and surgical masks and isolation wards will not stop it, because it will be out in the wild, so to speak, subject to all the carelessness of the ordinary human.


40 posted on 08/02/2014 11:03:39 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: Cold Heat

The most severe symptoms are sudden onset.

You have a headache for a few days then out of the blue, projectile vomiting and diarrhea. THIS IS HOW IT SPREADS.


41 posted on 08/02/2014 11:04:43 PM PDT by Selene
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To: Selene

Like I said...contact.

Contact with another individual’s blood or fluids.

It’s not airborne.

In Africa it tends to propagate through families.

Since the mid seventies, only about 3 thousand have contracted it and that being in a densely populated place with some rather unusual social customs and poor hygiene to boot..

So I think we have more important things to worry about.


42 posted on 08/02/2014 11:14:01 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: Cold Heat

SURVIVAL OUTSIDE HOST: The virus can survive in liquid or dried material for a number of days. Infectivity is found to be stable at room temperature or at 4°C for several days, and indefinitely stable at -70°C (6, 20). Infectivity can be preserved by lyophilisation.

Public Health Agency of Canada

http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/lab-bio/res/psds-ftss/ebola-eng.php


43 posted on 08/02/2014 11:43:02 PM PDT by Selene
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To: Cold Heat

You sound like that Dr. on Fox Bernie Seigel who is making promises that there is no way it is a threat here in the US. Saying it is hard to transmit the disease, but in the same breath saying any exchange of bodily fluids will transmit the disease. If one has symptoms of the flu wth Ebola there are going to be coughing and sneezing. the water droplets from their body will spread out 20-30 feet in a typical sneeze. It just takes 1 water molecule from a sneeze to enter your eye membrane and then you now have an entrance to catching Ebola. I’m not buying this crap that we have nothing to worry about here in US like we are all immune to it, and there is no cure or vaccine so to have this invincible attitude is ridiculous.


44 posted on 08/03/2014 5:32:01 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: tumblindice
We’re from the federal government and we’re here to help.

Which words should strike such terror into the heart that the person hearing them runs screaming in the other direction.

Thanks, but no thanks. I can manage on my own, JUST FINE!!!!

45 posted on 08/03/2014 6:16:03 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: RedHeeler
So, you would openly escort an ebola patient, without concern, for any transgenic inclusion?

I don't know what you mean by "transgenic inclusion." However, I would have no concern about transporting an Ebola patient who is completely contained within a BSL4 capable transport unit. Except for the fact that I am a researcher, not a health care provider, and so am the wrong person to be escorting a patient in the first place.

46 posted on 08/03/2014 7:06:02 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Rembrandt; Cold Heat; HiTech RedNeck
This doctor had been careful to remain fully contained within his bio-suit while handling his patient. According to reports, his skin never contacted bodily fluids.

But thanks for your guarantees - what’s your next one?

The doctor was working long hours in a hot environment; he may have simply pushed his PPE past its recommended limits. It would only take a minuscule quantity of virus contaminated liquid to permeate the suit, and only a tiny break in his skin to allow the virus entry. I think everyone has tiny breaks in the skin, since minor injuries happen constantly, unnoticed.

I do not know if this applies to the doctor, but I have read that a worker in the decon area in which Nancy Writebol (the assistant) worked came down with Ebola and continued to show up for work while symptomatic (he has since died). So, in the area where virus was supposed to be destroyed, someone was actually spreading it.

47 posted on 08/03/2014 7:20:27 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Selene



48 posted on 08/03/2014 8:07:11 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: Blue Highway

Sorry, I always spelled it with 2 “p”s. Ooops.


49 posted on 08/03/2014 9:17:15 AM PDT by ozaukeemom (Is there even a republic left?)
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To: Blue Highway

There is no sneezing...not caused by Ebola in any case.


50 posted on 08/03/2014 9:48:31 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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