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Is Russia about to invade Ukraine?
Hot Air ^ | August 2, 2014 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 08/02/2014 9:34:34 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Given the pattern of the cable news cycle, you might think that events in Ukraine had pretty much ceased to be of interest were it not for the downed airliner. To be fair, Israel is the hot news of the moment and, aside from the plane investigation, there haven’t been that many huge developments on the Russian border. But that would clearly change if the Russians launched a serious military invasion over the border. Rick Moran wonders if recent moves by Putin’s forces indicate that this is just what’s about to happen.

Let’s put it this way: Russia appears to have the capability to invade Ukraine any time it wishes. The forces are in place, the tanks are gassed up, the only thing apparently missing is the “Go” code from Vladimir Putin. And that could come this weekend, next weekemd – or never.

Rick is looking at the analysis of James Miller, who sees more than defensive measures on the part of the Russians.

Right now Russia is moving troops, armor, and advanced antiaircraft missiles toward the border with Ukraine. In the last 48 hours, dozens of videos have been uploaded to social-media sites that show Russian armor very close to the border, many of them confirmed to be within mere kilometers of Ukraine.

On Thursday, my team at The Interpreter definitively geolocated Russian armor only 2,000 meters (and closing) from the border and a Buk, the same type of missile that likely took down Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, only a few hours from being within range of Ukraine’s air force. Columns of tanks, marked with the same painted numbers and flat, pale-green paint we’ve seen in Ukraine since (at least) June 20th, were spotted moving en masse toward a key border crossing. Some Ukrainian journalists are reporting that at least some of this armor has already crossed the border.

Is it just precautionary or is Putin really getting ready to make a move? Tough to say at this point, really, and our previous efforts at either reading Putin’s mind or looking into his soul haven’t worked out all that well. I suppose it’s possible, since Vlad doesn’t seem to be terribly concerned with anything that Barack Obama says or does, and sanctions thus far don’t seem to have spurred much action from him aside from hastening some business deals with China.

But events in the rest of the world are not static, and Putin is surely aware of that. First of all, Ukraine might not be as much of a pushover as they appeared just a few months ago. Time is reporting that their military ranks have swelled and their fighting force has become more formidable in an impressively short period of time. Also, those sanctions might become more of a pressing issue if they continue to expand, with Japan being the latest nation to look at a serious financial strike against Moscow.

Russia isn’t entirely isolated yet, and some of the traditional bad actors on the world stage will continue to support them in spirit, even if they can’t offer much in the way of substance. (Think Iran, Syria, North Korea and others.) But if the economic crunch is growing to the point where they really feel the pinch and a quick victory in Ukraine is no longer assured, I get the sense that Putin won’t risk a black eye on a gambit that might fail.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Russia
KEYWORDS: obama; putin; russia; ukraine
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To: Rashputin

Thanks, Ivan.


21 posted on 08/02/2014 11:12:28 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Rashputin; Tailgunner Joe; SandwicheGuy; dforest; tcrlaf; Greetings_Puny_Humans; FreeReign; ...

Uh-oh, you’re about to be labeled a “Putinista, loudmouth Putin lover, little KGB man, pro-Russia defender, and a Putin jock-sniffer & butt boy.”


23 posted on 08/02/2014 11:15:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
I think they already have...

Yup

24 posted on 08/02/2014 11:16:27 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He should be able to handle it on his own. No need to call in a posse.


25 posted on 08/02/2014 11:17:04 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah, just don’t reply in kind, I see.


26 posted on 08/02/2014 11:17:30 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why are you pinging me to threads that I am not on, take me off this ping list you created.


27 posted on 08/02/2014 11:17:47 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: 1rudeboy

Go back and look at who I pinged.


28 posted on 08/02/2014 11:17:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I got it. You want to start a flamewar because you are feeling particularly insignificant today.


29 posted on 08/02/2014 11:18:53 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: ansel12

That’s probably the funniest thing I’ve read here this year. You stalk me all over this site but you are in a huff about this? Too funny!!


30 posted on 08/02/2014 11:18:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have never stalked you and that is absurd, but you are actually stalking me, you are pinging me to arguments and threads that I am not even on to continue some sort of past argument or thread discussion, in other words, carrying your arguments and grudges from thread to thread, and striving to recreate them and restart them.


31 posted on 08/02/2014 11:29:56 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

Which is EXACTLY what you’ve been doing lately. Don’t play innocent.


32 posted on 08/02/2014 11:31:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That is a bald faced lie, I don’t try to drag you to other threads with a ping list.

This is your new stalking game, mixed with a lot of personal anger and grudges that you seem to be carrying around.


33 posted on 08/02/2014 11:35:57 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; SunkenCiv; Tailgunner Joe

Time to ressurect films like this;

Audience: All Air Force Personnel. Synopsis: Exposes the worldwide operation of the Sino-Soviet espionage system and shows how Communist agents used any means to obtain vital information from military personnel. Reconstructs three actual cases to demonstrate various facets of espionage techniques. Explains how agents of different nationalities probe for vulnerable areas, such as loneliness, indebtedness, fast money, sex and the sporting life. Portrays the agent as he subtly approaches, ensnares and involves his victim until it is too late for the victim to retreat. Purpose: Information on communist espionage methods.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTz1DhHcJNo


34 posted on 08/02/2014 11:37:30 PM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This guy Gubarev in Donetsk doesn't sound like he's expecting any help from Russia since he's asking the OSCE for peacekeepers to get between them and the Ukraine Army. What do you think?
35 posted on 08/03/2014 1:46:54 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3188342/posts


36 posted on 08/03/2014 1:47:34 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It would be suicide, there would be tremendous uproar internationally. Putin would have to be suicidal to try this, think of the economic costs-what is he going to do take territory in eastern Ukraine? Overrun Kiev? If this happened Putin’s regime will collapse in months.


37 posted on 08/03/2014 3:43:42 AM PDT by Golden throne
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To: Golden throne

Putin has set the ball rolling with his insane propaganda like infants being crucified and mothers dragged behind tanks and many of the Russians believe those insane stories. Now he might not know how to stop it without looking stupid.


38 posted on 08/03/2014 3:48:23 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Russia is already sending troops, and ammunition, and heavy equipment and BUKs into Ukraine.


39 posted on 08/03/2014 4:23:54 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: aardwolf46

You wish, Vlad —


40 posted on 08/03/2014 4:26:52 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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