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Kennedys pushing Warren to run against Hillary in 2016
NY Post ^ | August 3, 2014 | Edward Klein

Posted on 08/03/2014 3:39:12 AM PDT by Zakeet

In an echo of 2008 — when Ted and Caroline Kennedy backed upstart Barack Obama over Hillary Rodham Clinton — members of the Kennedy clan have been quietly wooing Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren and encouraging her to throw her hat in the ring, sources tell me.

The question of whom to back in the 2016 presidential race has split the Kennedys down the middle. Robert Kennedy’s widow, Ethel, and their eldest son, former US Rep. Joe Kennedy II, favor Warren — the darling of the party’s left-wing base who now sits in Ted Kennedy’s old seat — while Bobby Jr. and Max Kennedy remain loyal to Hillary Clinton.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: 2016election; carolinekennedy; elizabethwarren; hillary; hyannisport; kennedy; massachusetts; tedkennedy; warren
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The poor old broad just can't get a break these days!

1 posted on 08/03/2014 3:39:12 AM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

Warren is such an amature. Hill’s Dem spin machine could have her come out as an Indian princess in no time.


2 posted on 08/03/2014 3:42:55 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: Zakeet
The Kennedys are irrelevant.
3 posted on 08/03/2014 3:44:53 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Zakeet

God help us all if that communist Is elected.


4 posted on 08/03/2014 3:51:04 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: fatnotlazy
"The Kennedys are irrelevant."

Are they ever. . . . .
The bootlegging family finally got their just rewards. . .

5 posted on 08/03/2014 3:51:39 AM PDT by DeaconRed (I see why they want our guns. Thank you founding fathers for the second amendment.)
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To: Zakeet
members of the Kennedy clan have been quietly wooing Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren and encouraging her to throw her hat in the ring...


6 posted on 08/03/2014 3:53:51 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: Vermont Lt
"God help us all if that communist Is elected."

Don't know which one you are talking about. Klintoon or Liz
They both suck.
I pray to GOD that we can come up with someone we can all get behind. and take our country back from the low life LIBS who have just about totally destroyed it.
If that statement makes me racist, then call me BULL.

7 posted on 08/03/2014 3:56:21 AM PDT by DeaconRed (I see why they want our guns. Thank you founding fathers for the second amendment.)
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To: Zakeet

Funny picture.

Funny story.

I do remember how The Swimmer, Ted, backed the Clown over Hitlery...it came as a shock to the Demon Rat establishment. (Actually the old lady Hairy Reed did the same thing.)

Ted K. was probably the ONLY Demon Rat who could successfully stand up to the Hitlery juggernaut—any other ‘rat would have been pummeled by the sycophant media in service of She Who Must Not Be Named.

Very funny to see this happen again to HRC, though I must say it may not work this time since Ted isn’t really the one doing the pushing...other Kennedys are not as immune to criticism.


8 posted on 08/03/2014 4:03:13 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Zakeet

Funny picture.

Funny story.

I do remember how The Swimmer, Ted, backed the Clown over Hitlery...it came as a shock to the Demon Rat establishment. (Actually the old lady Hairy Reed did the same thing.)

Ted K. was probably the ONLY Demon Rat who could successfully stand up to the Hitlery juggernaut—any other ‘rat would have been pummeled by the sycophant media in service of She Who Must Not Be Named.

Very funny to see this happen again to HRC, though I must say it may not work this time since Ted isn’t really the one doing the pushing...other Kennedys are not as immune to criticism.


9 posted on 08/03/2014 4:03:14 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Flick Lives

That heap not funny joke ... you no more make-um that ha-ha!

10 posted on 08/03/2014 4:11:39 AM PDT by Zakeet (If voting made any difference, they wouldn't let us do it - Mark Twain)
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To: Vermont Lt

They are both probably communists. You get any flavor you want, so long as it’s Marx-Berri.


11 posted on 08/03/2014 4:34:40 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: SoFloFreeper

I don’t know that too many Dems want Hillary; the wealthy liberal whites might, but the dark masses they’ve stirred up with racial rhetoric might not want a honky as their pied piper. Blacks and browns want their “piece of the pie”...


12 posted on 08/03/2014 4:35:21 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Zakeet; Hillarys Gate Cult; DeaconRed
Conservatives belittle Elizabeth Warren as a dangerous candidate at their peril.

The woman has many advantages over Hillary.

First she has all the qualifications that Hillary has, she is female. The rest, like being a Senator or Secretary of State simply do not matter.

Second, she is far more attractive than Hillary.

Third, she has a message and Hillary has none. Warren's message is that we need more statism to shape our economy. She even cites the Ronald Reagan years as an example of misplaced economics claiming that trickle down failed and that the wealth "trickles up." She failed to cite in the video I saw a single statistic to back up this deranged claim which is at 180° variation from the truth. But that does not matter, she is enthusiastic and persuasive in tone and it is perception alone that matters. She stays on message. She relates her radical redistributionist nostrums with kitchen table needs which especially appeal to women.

Fourth, she will have the enthusiastic support of the media while Hillary would have only begrudging support.

Fifth, she is fresh, hardly the tired old bitch that Hillary is. Make no mistake, Warren is an out and out redistributionist and far more dangerous both as a candidate and in office than Hillary but she knows how to put a benign face on her treacherous, redistributionist radicalism that Hillary can never manage.

Sixth, Warren will get the women's vote without losing so much of the men's vote that Hillary forfeits.


13 posted on 08/03/2014 4:35:46 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
Exactly right. People dismissed Zero, too.

It's hard for us to wrap our minds around the fact that liberals aren't looking for a president, but for a secular messiah. They have an unmet need to worship something or someone.

The irony is that these people are more dogmatic, in the worst sense, than almost any Christian. They are irrational. They shout down contradictory ideas. And when one messiah fails, they simply move on to the next one.

14 posted on 08/03/2014 4:41:11 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: nathanbedford

After Obama got elected, its wise to consider any Democratic candidate dangerious. No matter how stupid they are or how far left they swing. The Rats have a powerful machine that can make anything happen either by hook or by crook.


15 posted on 08/03/2014 4:43:53 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Zakeet

Hillary is firmly in the pocket of the financial sector. Warren wouldn’t stand a chance.


16 posted on 08/03/2014 4:47:17 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
when one messiah fails, they simply move on to the next one.

Bingo!

Socialism will really work this time because at last we have the right messiah


17 posted on 08/03/2014 4:47:29 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Zakeet

Is Broomhilda now a victim of a Vast Leftwing Conspiracy?


18 posted on 08/03/2014 4:53:26 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: lee martell

Hillary is an unprincipled, ambitious, unscrupulous Yale lawyer.

Fauxahauntus otoh is at Harvard.


19 posted on 08/03/2014 4:57:16 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I’ve heard about Harvard. Isn’t that the school that planned to host a Satanic Black Mass earlier this year, and would have, had not the group pulled out on it’s own? Yes, yes! that’s Harvard for you.


20 posted on 08/03/2014 5:05:59 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: Yorlik803

This is the awful truth of our times. Due to media influence and a preponderance of distracted Dumbed Downs, the Dems can pull almost any rabbit out of any hat they want to. The only way to stop it is if our candidate, whoever she or he will be, wins by 15 to 20 points. It has to be a victory knocked clear out of the park, over the heads of all the cheaters and corpse counters. If this happens, expect on air behavior by the media that defies belief in it’s vile, childish viciousness. Expect ‘debates’ composed of 97% emotion and 3% skewed logic. Heads and careers will explode.


21 posted on 08/03/2014 5:15:04 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: lee martell

Actually, it wasn’t “Harvard”, it was a small group of students who intended to host the group at a chapel at Harvard. (Harvard was originally opened as a “separatist”, i.e. Puritan, seminary, still some vestiges, such as chapels, remain.) To their credit, the local media and Harvard community shamed them out of it. Included in the critics was the president of Harvard, Dr. Faust. (I interviewed her son as a candidate at our company. He was truly an outstanding young man. Unfortunately, he didn’t accept our offer.)


22 posted on 08/03/2014 5:19:38 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Zakeet

One crime family vs. another...


23 posted on 08/03/2014 5:36:16 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Thanks for telling us of your experience. The phrase “Six Degrees of Separation” has never been as true as nowadays. Who would have guessed that I’d be communicating directly with someone who knows Dr. Faust and her son? I never knew she had a son.


24 posted on 08/03/2014 5:37:44 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: lee martell

I don’t “know” Dr. Faust, I just met her son once, but he impressed me. The apple does not fall far from the tree. (He did not go to college in Massachusetts, or the Ivy League, btw.)


25 posted on 08/03/2014 5:50:06 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: fatnotlazy

I like to call them a terrorist organization. If they aren’t destroying the country through politics, then they are destroying the lives of individual citizens.


26 posted on 08/03/2014 6:06:40 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: nathanbedford

BINGO!


27 posted on 08/03/2014 6:18:43 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: Zakeet

Hillary seems to have made lots of enemies among natural allies. Pretty hard to believe, isn’t it?


28 posted on 08/03/2014 6:29:53 AM PDT by stevem
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To: nathanbedford

I agree with your assessment. Hillary is a total fabrication of the media. Marrying Bill was her only success, if you want to call that a success, in life. She has failed at every task she has been given by the powers that be. Her only qualifications are lying and deceit.


29 posted on 08/03/2014 6:30:19 AM PDT by sport
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To: Zakeet

Do the Kennnedy’s still matter?


30 posted on 08/03/2014 7:08:18 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: fatnotlazy

Are they still alive, thought they would have offed each other by now.


31 posted on 08/03/2014 7:46:35 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: nathanbedford

Excellent post.


32 posted on 08/03/2014 7:47:49 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: Wolfie
Warren wouldn’t stand a chance.

I said the same thing about a guy from Kenya named Baraq Hussein.

Remember in primaries and caucuses it's the "activists" that comprise much of the vote. And the hard left Dems love Lizzie.

33 posted on 08/03/2014 7:50:27 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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34 posted on 08/03/2014 7:53:46 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Zakeet

All the Freepers who joke about ‘’Fauxcahontas’’ are probably the same ones who said America would never elect a Muslim named Barack Hussein Obama as president in a post 9-11 world.


35 posted on 08/03/2014 8:12:25 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (Psalm 14:1 ~ The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.”)
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To: Zakeet

I have a $5 and a pitcher of Margarita bet with my best friend that Hillary does not even run. She just can’t believe that Hillary won’t run. I told her the party will back somebody else. At first I thought Cuomo but I guess he’s toast now so Warren or Julian Castro.


36 posted on 08/03/2014 8:33:40 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: nathanbedford

“Sixth, Warren will get the women’s vote without losing so much of the men’s vote that Hillary forfeits.”

During this demographic transition period, before the Democrat core minority constituencies become the majority of voters, white females provide the swing vote in most constituencies. In 2008 enough wanted to participate in a historic moment to put Obama in office. In 2012, the Democrats successfully ran the “war on women” campaign to pull enough wavering white females to their side.

Whether it is Elizabeth Warren or Hillary, the Democrats will once again be beating the “historic moment” (first female president) and “war on women” drums. They will be appealing to emotions and not logic. Obviously they will not be able to run on the successes of 8 years of progressive policies. They also cannot run against Obama because African Americans are a core constituencies and they count on a 90%+ Democrat vote from African American voters.

To date we see no evidence the Republican Party can come up with an effective response to either the “war on women” or “historical moment” themes. The call to “break the glass ceiling” and the “its our turn now” chorus will be very appealing to white female voters who are not strong conservatives.

The GOP seems intent on nominating another older white male politician - Romney, Jeb Bush, Chris Christie all of whom will look like more of the same. None of them are capable of countering the emotional campaign that will be directed at the the independent white female voter. Any of these nominees will be slammed daily in the media for being out of touch and anti female. They will be constantly on the defensive, attempting to project “middle ground” positions on issues such as government financed abortions and birth control, gay marriage, government mandated gender pay equity, amnesty for illegals, and most likely the new issue of government subsidized day care. If the GOP nominee doesn’t endorse the progressive position on these issues he will be pilloried for being anti female and anti children. If he adopts the progressive point of view in order to sway female votes, he will risk too many conservatives staying home to win the election.

While I detest racial and gender politics, the only effective antidote to a Democrat ticket led by Warren or Hillary in 2016 may be the Republicans running a female, preferably a Hispanic or other minority female. With a minority female at the head of the ticket, the anti-female and white privilege themes are neutralized in the presidential race, unless a white male GOP VP candidate were to make a stupid remark. At this point in time the Republicans are doing nothing to put a credible female candidate for the top of the ticket in front of the voters so it appears the establishment is intent on running either Romney or Jeb.

We must not forget the Senate will also be in play in 2016 and the Republicans will be defending more seats in states where the vote could go either way. With a female at the top of the Democrat ticket, expect many vulnerable male GOP senators to be facing female Democrat opponents in 2016. We will likely see the same thing in House races the Democrats perceive as potentially in play. If the GOP wins the House again in 2014, and reelects the colorless and ineffective Boehner as Speaker, expect the electorate to be tired of what the press will continue to portray as GOP obstructionism by 2016. It is conceivable the Dems could win the White House, Senate, and House in 2016 by playing the gender hand effectively.

Expect the 2016 election to be all about the “year of the woman”. It is the only winning strategy for the Democrats and the GOP strategists seem unable to conceive they could be heading for an electoral disaster on the scale of 2008.


37 posted on 08/03/2014 8:50:39 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: All
Kennedys pushing Elizabeth Warren to run in 2016...

Or, as she's better known on FR, "Fauxcahontas" and "Lieawatha."

38 posted on 08/03/2014 9:13:21 AM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: All
I guess Mass/etts Democrat Gov Deval Patrick won't be
cheerleading for Warren.
The hot political buzz is 2016 prez
wannabe NY gov Andy Cuomo is considering Gov Deval as his
VP running mate.

Deval is busily upping his name recognition,
hoping to score political points with Gov Andy.

Here, vice-president hopeful Deval applauds at the installation
of the state's new police chief--- wearing her spiffy Commandant
Herman Goerring uniform (not photoshopped).

This is Gov Deval's personal bodyguard, ready
to enforce Cuomo's late-term abortion mandate.

39 posted on 08/03/2014 9:20:21 AM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: Liz
Holy Cow!

She looks as if she about to burst out "Die fahne hoch..." In Wagnerian volume. Noticed she's lacking any medal or ribbons but that gold whistle and silver chain adds a nice touch.

40 posted on 08/03/2014 9:53:43 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Covenantor
"She looks as if she about to burst out "Die fahne hoch..." In Wagnerian volume."

Nothing like a rousing chorus of "Der Horst Wessel Leid" in the morning ...

41 posted on 08/03/2014 9:58:31 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Pachelbel --- The original one-hit wonder.)
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To: Zakeet

Well, Elizabeth Warren is WAY more qualified than Sarah Palin was. /s


42 posted on 08/03/2014 10:04:14 AM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: BlueLancer

Ooh ooh ...she’s got to be wearing spit shined calf high boots. High kicking it the way they used to do. My trigger finger tickles.


43 posted on 08/03/2014 10:17:56 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Covenantor
How do you say versimilitude in Cherman?

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44 posted on 08/03/2014 10:24:15 AM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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45 posted on 08/03/2014 10:25:07 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Soul of the South
Yours is a very good post and I endorse every word of it. I seek only to extend it by noting that the factors played upon by the Democrats will be amplified by the media. We have seen that happen last cycle, by way of example, with "legitimate rape" which was magnified by the media to the extent that it wrecked a winning Senate campaign in what should have been a safe seat.

I fear that we are going into this election cycle and in 2016 as a divided political entity-I hesitate to call us a party-in which the moneyed establishment part of the party is intimidated by the media and so they offer statements up which the media exploits to prove that the conservative side of the party is too radical for prime time. The media consistently drives wedges into the Republican Party leaving it splintered and ineffectual and those wedges so often have to do with race or gender.


46 posted on 08/03/2014 10:42:03 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Liz

Gott Im Himmel!

He looks more feminine than her.

And I am quite sure I don’t want to see her “baton”.


47 posted on 08/03/2014 11:10:27 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Covenantor

Her baton........ROTFLOL....goot von.


48 posted on 08/03/2014 11:16:50 AM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: nathanbedford

I agree with your points, particularly with respect to the media which is the propaganda arm for the progressive movement and its political organization, the Democrat Party.

A free press presenting competitive points of view to the public is essential for a free republic. Unfortunately the corporate press of today is something the founding fathers could not have envisioned. The broadcast media companies, and their pipelines to the public (the big cable companies) are firmly aligned with the Democrat party and the progressive vision of a socialist state. Most markets today have effectively only one newspaper and the newspapers are owned by media conglomerates who also are allied with big government and the progressive agenda.

Conservatives rely on alternative media (the internet and talk radio primarily) to reach the public but these vehicles lack the reach of the mainstream media. In addition it is only a matter of time before progressives use the power of the state to regulate speech on the internet and on talk radio. Fox News, the only balanced mass media network is owned by the aging Rupert Murdoch and will almost certainly fold in line with the other mass media outlets once he fades from the scene and his media empire is dissolved or professional managers take over.

To restore a vibrant free press, one or more of the major networks (NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN) needs to become an outlet for the conservative point of view. It would be extremely helpful to the cause of liberty if a conservative or libertarian billionaire purchased one of the major networks in the same way Warren Buffett purchased Media General and Jeff Bezos purchased the Washington Post. In the days of the founders even small towns had competing newspapers and pamphleteers. Today significant economies of scale are required to support a news organization and editorial staff capable of disseminating messages nationally. Unless a wealthy patriot steps up to buy a major network, I fear it is only a matter of time until the federal government snuffs out free speech on the internet and talk radio. Once all media outlets support only the progressive point of view, the state will be supreme and capable of carrying out all kinds of abuses without the people knowing.


49 posted on 08/03/2014 6:36:32 PM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Soul of the South
it is only a matter of time before progressives use the power of the state to regulate speech on the internet and on talk radio

I fear you are absolutely right about this. The left is relentless and their time horizon is as elastic as is necessary to accomplish their aims, witness their century long commitment to enact Obamacare. Their endurance would rival that of the Chinese. Their recent attempts to strangle free speech on the Internet is only the preliminary skirmish in a war which they are prepared to wage until we are exhausted. Most well-intentioned Americans are not even aware of what is coming.

If we are convinced that a top down approach to political sanity probably cannot work because the media dominates the process, we might feel one more layer of the onion and ask what influences the media? You properly point out the financial control progressives exert over the media. I had not been aware of Warren Buffett's purchase of Media General but that is very frightening. I had been aware of his participation in the Washington Post and its affiliated companies beginning with his relationship with Katharine Graham but I had not known that it had matured into ownership across the board.

Is there another layer below financial control of the media? I think there is the matter of intellectual conceit. If Harvard and Yale dominate American law, Columbia and a few other institutions dominate American media. The influence is subtle and I think best described as "intellectual conceit" which lays down a menu of political correctness which locks the media in place. We are all familiar with how the New York Times defines what is newsworthy for the day and we see how the electronic media conforms to that dictate. For a reporter or an editor in a lesser publication or in a regional television newsroom to deviate from the established order is to betray oneself as a Philistine.

We see this phenomenon at work in our eleemosynary institutions such as our great foundations like Ford, Rockefeller, Pew and others originally established by their benefactors with conservative values animating the gift but over time the professionals insinuate themselves onto the boards and guide the institutions to the left. This is also a matter of intellectual conceit.

We know this is at play in academia. The college campus has become one of the most fascistic pieces of geography in America. The intellectual conceit at work there is not covert but very much in your face. Gown seems to have a need to say, "fuck you" to town.

In many of these institutions, especially the college campuses, we see progressives somehow funding themselves with our money. College tuition costs have gone through the roof as academicians have learned how to farm the government. Our foundations flourish in a tax-free environment. So in peeling off layers of the onion, we see that we have multiple institutions, many not mentioned here such as unions, especially teachers unions, hospitals etc. funded with public monies in some manner or other which makes these institutions immune to the frictions of capitalism and, worse, insulates them from the popular will.

All of this comes together in Washington. We Americans somehow sense that this Leviathan is out of control and the visible evidence of it appears to be the shenanigans in Washington. So we blame Washington or we blame the politicians there when they are only the symptom of a progressive infiltration of our entire culture.

How then do we reform our politics if we cannot reform Washington? We know the top down approach will not work because it has not worked. The system is defended by the media, our own institutions and our own tax dollars. I do not think for a moment that even rank progressives who dominate the Senate are unaware of the looming threat represented by our $17 trillion debt and our $120 million or more set of unfunded liabilities. I cannot believe they do not care because they make a religion of "caring."

I think they are in a psychic cage and can do no other.

The only approach for which I see even a glimmer of hope is the Article V movement and that hope, as feeble as it is, exists only because it attempts reform from outside Washington.


50 posted on 08/03/2014 7:41:54 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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