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AMERICANS SPEEDING ACROSS BRITTANY; BIG GAINS MADE IN DAY; NAZI ROUT SPREADS (8/3/44)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 8/3/44 | E.C. Daniel, W.H. Lawrence, George Horne, Raymond Daniell, Hanson W. Baldwin

Posted on 08/03/2014 4:34:34 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: history; milhist; realtime; worldwarii
Free Republic University, Department of History presents World War II Plus 70 Years: Seminar and Discussion Forum
First session: September 1, 2009. Last date to add: September 2, 2015.
Reading assignment: New York Times articles and the occasional radio broadcast delivered daily to students on the 70th anniversary of original publication date. (Previously posted articles can be found by searching on keyword “realtime” Or view Homer’s posting history .)
To add this class to or drop it from your schedule notify Admissions and Records (Attn: Homer_J_Simpson) by freepmail. Those on the Realtime +/- 70 Years ping list are automatically enrolled. Course description, prerequisites and tuition information is available at the bottom of Homer’s profile. Also visit our general discussion thread.
1 posted on 08/03/2014 4:34:34 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Selections from West Point Atlas for the Second World War
Northwestern France, 1944 – The Breakout: Operations, 1-13 August 1944
The Marianas Islands: Guam 1944 – Invasion of Guam, 21 July-8 August 1944
Eastern Europe, 1941: Operation Bagration – Operations, 22 June-19 August, 1944
The Western Pacific, New Guinea, and the Philippine Islands: Allied Advances to the Palaus and Morotai, 30 July-17 September 1944 and Air Attacks on the Philippines, 7-22 September 1944
Northern Italy 1944: Allied Advance to Gothic Line, 5 June-25 August and Gains 29 August-31 December
China, 1941: Operation Ichigo, April-December 1944 and Situation 31 December
China-Burma, 1941: Third Burma Campaign – Slim’s Offensive, June 1944-March 1945
2 posted on 08/03/2014 4:35:12 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
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The Nimitz Graybook

3 posted on 08/03/2014 4:36:27 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Continued from July 27.

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Winston S. Churchill, Triumph and Tragedy

4 posted on 08/03/2014 4:37:57 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; 2banana; henkster; meandog; ...
British Enter Vire (Daniel) – 2-3
After the Smoke of Battle Cleared in St. Lo (page 1 photo) – 3
McNair Killed by American Bomb that Fell Short in St. Lo Attack – 3-4
Big Planes Attack 3 Times in France – 4
Canada Says Nazis Shot 19 Prisoners – 4
War News Summarized – 5
Germans Admit Rommel was Wounded; Has Concussion but Will Live, Berlin Says – 5
Russians Resisted (Lawrence) -5-6
New Airfield Won in Guam Invasion (Horne) – 7
Japanese Gaining East of Hengyang – 7
Aitape Japanese Hammered in Trap – 7-8
Shimada is Ousted in Tokyo Shake-Up – 8
Our Gains Listed (Daniell) – 8
The Texts of the Day’s Communiques on the Fighting in Various War Zones – 10-12
Front-Line Bombing (Baldwin) – 12
5 posted on 08/03/2014 4:39:44 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1944/aug44/03aug44.htm#

Allies capture Myitkyina
Thursday, August 3, 1944 www.onwar.com

In Burma... A joint Sino-American force captures Myitkyina, in the northeast. Most of the Japanese garrison has successfully withdrawn.

In the Mariana Islands... On Guam, the US 77th Division (part of US 3rd Amphibious Corps) advances on the east side of the island after the Japanese fall back. The Japanese defensive positions on Mount Santa Rosa are shelled by American warships.

On the Western Front... Elements of the US 8th Corps (Middleton), part of US 3rd Army, engage German defenders in Rennes while other elements by-pass the city. To the left, advancing forces of US 1st Army capture Mortain.

On the Eastern Front... Soviet 1st Ukrainian Front seizes crossings over the Vistula River, south of Sandomierz, over 110 miles south of Warsaw.


6 posted on 08/03/2014 4:41:00 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://www.etherit.co.uk/month/thismonth/03.htm

August 3rd, 1944 (THURSDAY)

UNITED KINGDOM: “We must make it a pleasure and a profit to be at school. Now we will develop the child’s real bent.” Thus R A Butler, the Minister of Education, hailed his far reaching Education Act when it received the royal assent today. England and Wales will after the war have a national system of free secondary education for all children up to 15 and part-time tuition for pupils leaving school before 18, with teaching according to aptitude.

The US Eighth Air Force in England flies 2 missions.

- Mission 512: 672 bombers and 352 fighters, in 3 forces, are dispatched to hit rail and other targets in the French/German border area and oil dumps and bridges southeast of Paris; 6 bombers and 6 fighters are lost.

(1) Of 345 B-17s, 106 hit the Merkwille Oil Refinery, 68 hit Strasbourg marshalling yard, 62 hit Saarbrucken marshalling yard, 54 hit Mulhouse marshalling yard, 16 hit the Croix de Metz Airfield at Toul, 11 hit a railroad near Saarbrucken and 6 hit targets of opportunity; 6 B-17s are lost. Escort is provided by 175 P-51 Mustangs; 6 P-51s are lost. (2) Of 155 B-17s, 38 hit Troyes Bridge and 36 hit the La Roche Bridge at Joigny; escort is provided by 96 P-51s. (3) Of 172 B-24s, 27 hit Conches Airfield, 12 hit Melun marshalling yard, 11 hit Etampes Mondesir Airfield and 3 hit targets of opportunity; escort is provided by 47 P-47 Thunderbolts.

- Mission 513: 482 bombers and 178 fighters, in 3 forces, are dispatched to oil installations and dumps in the Brussels, Paris and Lille areas and CROSSBOW (V-weapon) sites in the Pas de Calais; 2 bombers are lost. (1) 112 B-17s and 117 B-24s hit V-weapon sites in the Pas de Calais; 1 B-24 is lost; escort is provided by 43 P-51s. (2) Of 76 B-24s, 62 hit Brussels/Vivorde, 10 hit Ghent/Terneuzen and 1 hits a target of opportunity; escort is provided by 33 P-47s. (3) Of 159 B-24s, 49 hit Harnes, 28 hit Courchelettes, 22 hit Pas de Calais V-weapons sites, 10 hit Lille/Marquette, 10 hit Lille/Sequedin and 8 hit Ghent marshalling yard; 1 B-24 is lost; escort is provided by 90 P-51s.

- 133 P-38s and P-47s fly fighter-bomber missions against rail traffic in the Metz-Strasbourg-Saarbrucken area; 1 P-47 is lost.

Corvettes HMCS St Thomas, Napanee and Woodstock departed Londonderry with convoy ONF-247.

ENGLISH CHANNEL: German mini-submarines attack invasion shipping, sinking the British destroyer HMS Quorn.

FRANCE: US 1st Army troops capture Mortain.

Destroyer HMS Quorn is torpedoed in Seine Bay, either by a Niger or Marder human torpedo which caused her to break into two amidships, and both ends to sink rapidly although partly above water. There are 130 casualties. (Alex Gordon)(108)

The US Ninth Air Force dispatches 180+ A-20 Havocs and B-26 Marauders to bomb rail bridges, overpasses, and junctions at Mantes-la-Jolie, Chartres, La Chenaie and Merey, fuel dump at Maintenon, and alternate rail targets in northern France; fighters escort IX Bomber Command bombers and a few C-47 Skytrains, provide cover for ground forces, and fly armed reconnaissance over wide areas of northern and western France The US Fifteenth Air Force in Italy sends 600+ bombers to hit targets in Germany; B-17s and B-24s hit industry in the Friedrichshafen area, including chemical works, fabric works, and 2 aircraft factories; B-24s also bomb communications targets in the Brenner Pass area, attacking Avisio viaduct and bridges at Ora and San Michele all’Adige; fighters fly about 300 sorties in support; the bombers and fighters claim 18 enemy aircraft shot down; 11 US airplanes are destroyed.

Paris: General Dietrich von Choltitz takes up his appointment as military governor of Paris.

GERMANY: U-1065 launched.
U-2516 laid down.
U-2325 commissioned.

POLAND: Soviet forces cross the Vistula at Baranow. Crossings over the Vistula River are seized by Konev south of Sandomierz which is 110 miles south of Warsaw.

U.S.S.R.: Baltic Fleet, Ladoga Lake and Chudskoe Lake Flotillas: MS “N127” (ex-BP “N32”) - mined close to Mantsinsari Is. (?) on Ladoga Lake . (Sergey Anisimov)(69)

ITALY: The USAAF’s Fifteenth Air Force based in Italy dispatches 600+ bombers to attack targets in Germany; B-17s and B-24s hit industry in the Friedrichshafen area, including chemical works, fabric works, and 2 aircraft factories; B-24s also bomb communications targets in the Brenner Pass area, attacking Avisio viaduct and bridges at Ora and San Michele all’Adige; fighters fly about 300 sorties in support; the bombers and fighters claim 18 enemy aircraft shot down; 11 USAAF airplanes are destroyed.

BURMA: Most of the Japanese garrison slips away from pursuing Chinese and US troops as Myitkyina falls in the Burma Theatre. This railhead and Japanese base on the Upper Irrawaddy has fallen after a ten-week siege.

Yet for General “Vinegar Joe” Stilwell it has been a sour ten weeks. In the first failed assault two Chinese battalions got lost and started fighting each other, and the US forward commander, Brigadier Frank Merrill, had a heart attack. His men, “Merrill’s Marauders”, were in such bad shape that some cut away their trouser seats - their numbers were so low that they could not afford their dysentery to divert them from the battle. When the “Marauders” had to stop fighting, Stilwell refused help from the British 36th Division and, speaking of the need “to keep an American flavor”, brought in a battalion of US engineers from the Burma Road: untrained in combat, they were slaughtered almost to a man.

On 1 August, the day that Stilwell was promoted to four-star general, the 4,500 Japanese escaped the encircling forces, who entered the town only to find a suicidal rearguard of 187 wounded.

NEW GUINEA: US forces push towards the Torricelli mountains.

CAROLINE ISLANDS: US Far East Air Force (FEAF) B-24s bomb Yap Island and islands in the Woleai Atoll group.

COMMONWEALTH OF THE PHILIPPINES: A U.S. submarine sinks a Japanese auxiliary netlayer in the Molucca Sea.

GUAM: US ships blast concentrations of Japanese troops on Mount Santa Rosa.

AUSTRALIA: Frigate HMAS Barwon launched.

TERRITORY OF ALASKA: ALEUTIAN ISLANDS: US President Franklin D Roosevelt arrives at Adak Island in the heavy cruiser USS Baltimore (CA-68).

CANADA: Frigate HMCS Monnow commissioned.

U.S.A.: Destroyer USS Alfred A Cunningham launched.
Destroyer USS Vogelsgang laid down.

Submarine USS Spot commissioned.

Submarine USS Springer launched.


7 posted on 08/03/2014 4:42:35 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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On 1 August, the day that Stilwell was promoted to four-star general, the 4,500 Japanese escaped the encircling forces, who entered the town only to find a suicidal rearguard of 187 wounded.

Jeez.

8 posted on 08/03/2014 4:47:25 AM PDT by Tax-chick (No power in the 'verse can stop me.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

NYT editors felt the 8/1/44 p5 news was so important that they would reprint it today on p5.


9 posted on 08/03/2014 5:03:48 AM PDT by fso301
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To: r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; 2banana; henkster; meandog; ...
I invented a new way to screw up a post. I was having difficulties uploading to photobucket for about two weeks this month ahd it took several tries to get them all. For August 3 I grabbed images for pages 5, 9 and 10 from August 1 on one of the tries and didn't catch the error until now. I will post the correct pages here and delete the wrong ones on photobucket, which will leave blanks it the post above.

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10 posted on 08/03/2014 5:22:19 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Oh. The 8/1 pages 5, 9 and 10 are still there because they are pulled from the 8/1 album, which is still intact.

Sigh.

11 posted on 08/03/2014 5:26:55 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Ahhh....technology....


12 posted on 08/03/2014 6:02:51 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarc tag?)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

This looks like the perfect thread to ask a question I was going to research today.

My mother recently passed away and me and my sisters have been sorting through her items. She saved so much stuff...lol

Anyway, yesterday we found historic newspapers she had saved. Her collection starts with December 8, 1941 with the bombing of Pearl Harbor as covered by the Birmingham News and covers major events over the years since (Normandy invasion, D-Day, JFK, Clinton, Reagan, George Wallace, Elvis, Y2K, 9/11, etc....just to name a few).

Luckily my sisters had no interest in these so I get to keep them! What is the best way to preserve these?

I plan to take some time today reading them. Looking forward to it. Most of them are Birmingham News, Montgomery Advertiser, with some Atlanta Constitution, and other southern newspapers.

Thanks in advance for any advice!


13 posted on 08/03/2014 6:52:27 AM PDT by BamaBelle
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

The bastard Germans WERE beat, they knew it, it SHOULD have been over by June 30. But they kept killing anyway.


14 posted on 08/03/2014 7:33:54 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; Clive; exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; ...
To all- please ping me to Canadian topics.

Canada Ping!

15 posted on 08/03/2014 8:17:08 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Will steal your comments & post them on Twitter)
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Today's big map. By the way, the logo in the top left corner "Chef WFSt" stands for "Chef des Wehrmachtführungsstabes im Oberkommando der Wehrmacht," or Chief of the Operations Staff of the Armed Forces High Command. That position was held by Gen. Alfred Jodl. These are his maps, and presumably they were used in Hitler's daily briefings.

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16 posted on 08/03/2014 11:10:07 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarc tag?)
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Here is the Panzer Group West sector. The eastern part around Caen is still holding, but the British are crumpling back Panzer Group West's left wing:

03 AUG 44 5pz photo 03AUG445pz_zps05b1324a.jpg

17 posted on 08/03/2014 11:12:17 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarc tag?)
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Here is the 7th Army sector. LXXXIV Corps has re-appeared on the map, but it's not clear what units it controls. XXXXVII looks like it's carrying the brunt of the fighting. If I were the Germans, I would not like the way 7th Army looks like it's being herded into a pocket.

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18 posted on 08/03/2014 11:15:26 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarc tag?)
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The situation south of 7th Army toward Rennes. Forget Brittany; it sure looks like the Americans are doing an "end run" around the wide open left wing of 7th Army. And that planned deployment of a relatively immobile 700 series coastal defense division isn't going to stop it.

03 AUG 44 Rennes photo 03AUG44rennes_zps7b97ccab.jpg

19 posted on 08/03/2014 11:18:08 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarc tag?)
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A “concussion”? Yah,you can't say that those Nazis didn't have a sense of humor.
20 posted on 08/03/2014 12:03:22 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (We're The First Generation Not Forced To Fight To Defend Our Freedom.And It Shows!)
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...the logo in the top left corner "Chef WFSt" stands for "Chef des Wehrmachtführungsstabes im Oberkommando der Wehrmacht," or Chief of the Operations Staff of the Armed Forces High Command. That position was held by Gen. Alfred Jodl.

Looking like "Chef Jodl" is cooking up some defeat!

21 posted on 08/03/2014 12:43:05 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

NAZI robot tanks? seriously?

That guy from Dallas improved the timing accuracy of grenades... did he get royalties?

lol


22 posted on 08/03/2014 1:00:16 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

friendly fire killed a General... ouch


23 posted on 08/03/2014 1:34:20 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: BamaBelle

preserving history is important, even if there is no real $$$ in a lot of it.


24 posted on 08/03/2014 1:37:05 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: BamaBelle

Re: Preserving newspapers: How about calling the Archive Department at Auburn’s Library and ask how they do it?


25 posted on 08/03/2014 4:40:00 PM PDT by Ecliptic (.)
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"..only Spartan women give birth to real men"




Thank God for the real men who founded this country,
and for the real men who continue to sustain it

Please join the 300 by donating $100

26 posted on 08/03/2014 4:42:48 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

We know this is a labor of love my friend.

And I for one have appreciated it lo these many years. To watch WWII unfold from pre-war to what will soon be the end day by day and to put myself into the chair of the average American reading pretty much the main source of news (radio being the USA Today of the period).

I felt the fear of the impending storm, the uncertainty of a possible loss to 2 enemies hell bent to destroy or enslave us (I suspended the foreknowledge I have and applied where we are with islam today).

The gift you gave given can probably never be repaid. Not just to us but to historians.

Thank you and don’t let an occasional glitch throw you.

You may never know just how huge and important this series has been.


27 posted on 08/03/2014 6:09:28 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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To: Ecliptic

Thank you for the response. After I posted this, I did a bit of research on the net. I just need to buy some acid free paper and acid free boxes to store them in which I found I can buy on Amazon. I did learn that you should never fold papers (as these were) to store them as it aids in the breakdown in the acid in the paper.

What fun to read all of these bits of history!

Sorry for interrupting the thread...


28 posted on 08/03/2014 6:35:57 PM PDT by BamaBelle
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To: trisham

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Tqkn7LCwuI


29 posted on 08/03/2014 6:55:07 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: freedumb2003

Thank you for the encouraging words. They almost make it worth it putting up with the glitch. Just the same, I am now on guard against a repetition of that particular failure mode.


30 posted on 08/03/2014 7:36:50 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: henkster

The Germans have a pocket in their future? Hmmm.


31 posted on 08/04/2014 10:32:04 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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Howlin' Mad Smith was kicked upstairs after his relief of the Army 77th Division's commander on Saipan, which started decades of enmity between the Army and Marines.

Looks like he's trying to make nice today with a message praising the 77th on Guam.

32 posted on 08/04/2014 10:35:15 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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What struck me about the maps in posts 16 and 18 is just how small an area the remnants of 7th Army have been herded, and how large an area the Americans are now roaming.

I’d like to find the transcripts of Hitler’s daily conferences. When Jodl puts this map in front of Hitler, he has to know that catastrophe is inevitable. What do you tell the guy, who can order you killed, when he talks about winning this battle?

This is the closest thing I’ve been able to find:

http://www.amazon.com/Hitler-His-Generals-Conferences-1942-1945/dp/1929631286

It’s only the transcripts from a few selected dates, and from what I skimmed, the picked Hitler’s crazier rants and not the nuts and bolts discussions.

No wonder some of the German generals started drinking heavily.


33 posted on 08/04/2014 11:22:18 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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After the bomb plot and what is about to happen to Rommel, I doubt any general will take on Hitler. He would equate defeatism with disloyalty and possible involvement with the plotters.

What he just did in allowing his army to be cut off in Estonia and Northern Latvia is sheer madness with the Red Army at the gates of Eastern Prussia and Warsaw.

The old guard of the German General Staff must be seething, watching Germany's destruction at the hands of a fool. Might as well drink all the liquor before the end.

34 posted on 08/04/2014 12:15:11 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: GeronL; Homer_J_Simpson

“NAZI robot tanks? seriously?”

Based on the description the ‘Robot Tanks’ were most likely these:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borgward_IV

The Germans had several other models of remote control tank bombs but only these were about that size and had a radio aerial.


35 posted on 08/04/2014 12:53:00 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: TalonDJ

very interesting


36 posted on 08/04/2014 1:36:39 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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