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Residents of Israelís North: We Hear the Sounds of Tunnels Being Dug Under Our Feet
Algemeiner ^ | 8-1-14

Posted on 08/03/2014 5:37:04 AM PDT by SJackson

Fighting between the IDF and Hamas in Gaza and along the Gaza Strip border is also affecting Israel’s northern front, with regional council heads and residents in communities expressing fear that Lebanon based terror group Hezbollah is copying a Hamas tactic and digging terror tunnels in the North.

According to Israeli news website Walla!, Kiryat Shmona Mayor Nissim Malka sent a letter on Wednesday to Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon asking him to examine the issue as soon as the violence in the south subsides.

Malka wrote that residents “have complained of hearing noises coming from under the ground. I have heard these complaints several times, but yesterday, when I came back from a tour of the Gaza border communities, I understood.”

Malka wrote that “if this is what they did in the South, I am certain [Hezbollah leader Hassan] Nasrallah is not sitting idly and giving out candy.”

It must be noted, as defense officials indeed have, that the situation on Israel’s southern Gaza border is significantly different from its northern border with Hezbollah.

The ground in the Gaza Strip and around it is a type of sandy earth that can be dug through with relative ease, and the security zone beyond the border fence is narrow. The earth in Israel’s north is much rockier and harder to break through, and the demilitarized border zone is much deeper. Nevertheless, Hezbollah operatives sometimes come right up to the fence, as they did in a 2006 attack to capture two IDF soldiers which was Israel’s casus belli for launching the Second Lebanon War.

What is similar to the situation in Gaza is the proximity of some communities to the border fence: some of the smaller communities are only a few dozen meters away from the border.

Head of the Mevo’ot Hermon Regional Council Benny Ben Muvhar echoed Malka. “There is fear of terror tunnels being dug from Lebanon into Israel. Many residents in communities near the fence claim they hear digging sounds right under their feet in their bedrooms.”

Ben Muvhar emphasized that residents have not been psychologically affected by the talk of tunnels in the current war since they started complaining of hearing sounds as long as three years ago. “I think that after the IDF completes its mission in the South its next goal should be to come here and ascertain whether the fear voiced by the residents is justified.”

The IDF found the opening of a tunnel and weapons caches during the 2006 war, just several hundred meters from one of the communities. However it was not a tunnel leading into Israel and the military has of yet not found a single terror tunnel leading from Lebanon into Israel’s territory.


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1 posted on 08/03/2014 5:37:04 AM PDT by SJackson
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2 posted on 08/03/2014 5:37:47 AM PDT by SJackson (incompetent and feckless..the story of the Obama presidency. No hand on the f***ing tiller, Hillary)
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I was actually quite surprised that the Israeli’s didn’t know of these tunnels. Or maybe they knew about some, but not most. Crush all the tunnels!


3 posted on 08/03/2014 5:40:39 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: SJackson
The earth in Israel’s north is much rockier and harder to break through...

Which might be why the efforts of those who are breaking through it can be heard on the surface.

4 posted on 08/03/2014 5:41:58 AM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: SJackson

Use sound equipment to locate tunnels. Drill into them. Fill with a gaseous fuel-air mix. Detonate the jihadists back to hell whence they came. Repeat as often as needed.


5 posted on 08/03/2014 5:46:34 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SJackson

It would BE GREAT to relocate some of those terrorists to the Northeast. They badly need more tunnels between New York City and New Jersey, and these guys seem to get a LOT MORE done, a LOT FASTER, than the unions boys up there.


6 posted on 08/03/2014 5:49:03 AM PDT by BobL
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To: SJackson

“We Hear the Sounds of Tunnels Being Dug Under Our Feet”


Sounds like Heinlein’s Starship Troopers and their fight with the Bugs.


7 posted on 08/03/2014 5:49:27 AM PDT by OwenKellogg (Fundamental transformation leads to ... you don't want to go there, buddy.)
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To: SJackson

Israel TOTALLY missed the boat on the Gaza tunnels. They were being WARNED for years that it was going on. The had options, like putting up sensors and find them on the Israel side as they were being built.

...now they find it’s much harder to find tunnels AFTER they are built and many soldiers have lost their lives because of it. It was MAJOR SCREW-UP for them, but hopefully they’ll come out of it intact. Now, hopefully, they take their northern border a bit more seriously.


8 posted on 08/03/2014 5:51:27 AM PDT by BobL
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To: SJackson

When Hamas is responsible for this, why is there no international outrage? Why aren’t the media and heads of countries demanding answers as to why there are tunnels? Why is everyone turning a blind eye to the evil of Hamas and worse yet trying to blame Israel for it? Is Hamas the Muslim form of Ebola?


9 posted on 08/03/2014 5:51:32 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Steely Tom

“Which might be why the efforts of those who are breaking through it can be heard on the surface. “

My first thought too. Ground DOES NOT just tremble 24/7 in quiet seismic zones - it sure WOULD BE NICE if the government there starts to LISTEN to the people that live there.


10 posted on 08/03/2014 5:52:58 AM PDT by BobL
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11 posted on 08/03/2014 5:53:23 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: SJackson

A couple of guys can drill a 70 meter water well in a weekend. That and a couple of pounds of C4 should be a pretty easy solution when one can hear of feel the tunnel being dug.


12 posted on 08/03/2014 5:54:56 AM PDT by anton
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To: SJackson

Set up a network of seismographs. Identify tunnel. Drill hole.
Deposit explosives. Repeat as needed...


13 posted on 08/03/2014 6:00:49 AM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: SJackson

I think many deeply buried sensors at the borders could pick up tunnel noises and triangulate them. Submarines have very sensitive sound detectors. You monitor these sensors and pick up tunneling sounds better at night


14 posted on 08/03/2014 6:05:55 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Travis McGee
Use sound equipment to locate tunnels. Drill into them. Fill with a gaseous fuel-air mix. Detonate the jihadists back to hell whence they came. Repeat as often as needed. ************************************************

Something like this ..... but on a human-size 'rat' scale:

The Rodenator System is the easy and effective way to get rid of burrowing rodents instantly!

15 posted on 08/03/2014 6:06:00 AM PDT by Qiviut ( One of the most delightful things about a garden is the anticipation it provides. (W.E. Johns)
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To: lee martell

Well, I’m sure Israel has more than enough lazy politicians who ignore complaints from its citizens. No society is perfect.


16 posted on 08/03/2014 6:09:28 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: anton

If nothing else, Bubba would drill down into the tunnel. Then run a garden hose down and attach it to an old p/u truck. Problem solved. For that particular tunnel.


17 posted on 08/03/2014 6:10:48 AM PDT by donozark (The voices inside my head may not be real, but they have some good ideas!)
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To: BobL

Correct! The best time to find and destroy tunnels is while they are being excavated and give up more noises and vibrations. Israel should have a policy of destroying all houses and buildings that are used as tunneling sites and tunnel entrance sites. Suspected sites should have many aerial photos taken to detect the carting off of dirt produced by excavation


18 posted on 08/03/2014 6:11:32 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: SJackson

This is all the legacy of the traitor Yitzhak Rabin. NONE of this would be happening had he not brought Yasser Arafat back from the dead and turn him from a rogue terrorist into a statesman. May Rabin’s name and memory be erased.


19 posted on 08/03/2014 6:14:04 AM PDT by montag813
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To: SJackson
I'm trying to convince the Israelis to adopt my pooch as their mascot. He hates tunnel diggers.


20 posted on 08/03/2014 6:14:36 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Qiviut

I like it!


21 posted on 08/03/2014 6:17:14 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Qiviut

My father has one of these for prairie dogs on his ranch. Oh yea.. The concussion from the explosion does the trick!


22 posted on 08/03/2014 6:18:12 AM PDT by Man from Oz
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To: Travis McGee

A good place to store mustard gas......


23 posted on 08/03/2014 6:19:41 AM PDT by southland ( I have faith in the creator Republicans freed the slaves. psalms 37:4)
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To: lee martell

I’m also surprised that Israel hasn’t come up with some kind of tunnel detection system. Something that would listen for digging underground. Bet they will now.


24 posted on 08/03/2014 6:22:41 AM PDT by McGruff (Seems like some are more interested in protecting Ukraine's border than ours)
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To: Travis McGee
Fill with a gaseous fuel-air mix.

Methane would work quite nicely, undetectable unless you're looking for it and without signature. That thought pleases me.

25 posted on 08/03/2014 6:23:24 AM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: Blue Highway
When Hamas is responsible for this, why is there no international outrage? Why aren’t the media and heads of countries demanding answers as to why there are tunnels? Why is everyone turning a blind eye to the evil of Hamas and worse yet trying to blame Israel for it? Is Hamas the Muslim form of Ebola?

Seriously asking this? Because Jews are HATED worldwide, and always have been. The U.S. is among a mere handful of Israel's allies. The world hates Israel so much, that it actually considers it just to create a 23rd Arab state by vivisecting the ONLY Jewish state. This is why Rabin and Peres' treachery was SO devastating. THEY made it possible for the phony "PAlestinian" narrative to gain credence.

26 posted on 08/03/2014 6:24:37 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Man from Oz

We need one here .... groundhogs under the barns!


27 posted on 08/03/2014 6:26:46 AM PDT by Qiviut ( One of the most delightful things about a garden is the anticipation it provides. (W.E. Johns)
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To: cripplecreek

Must have caught that mole on the surface after flushing it
out with a water hose because that dog is way to clean to
have just dug it out. Or was he so filthy you had to clean
him up for the pic?


28 posted on 08/03/2014 6:29:00 AM PDT by Slambat
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To: McGruff

Something that would listen for digging underground.

They did, the
Residents of Israel’s North

HeHe, just kidding.


29 posted on 08/03/2014 6:31:46 AM PDT by Slambat
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To: Slambat

They should be able to focus in on the tunnels, drill a hole and drop some rotting pig meat down there. Problem solved.


30 posted on 08/03/2014 6:42:15 AM PDT by McGruff (Seems like some are more interested in protecting Ukraine's border than ours)
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To: montag813

“Because Jews are HATED worldwide, and always have been.”

Why? I ask all the time but I never get a good answer.
I have my theories from the little I know from history and
my own personal experiences with them but nothing on the
level of hatred to the point of wiping them out. I know to
be very wary when doing business with them and like muslims
they always want to wheel and deal after the work is done
and it’s time to get paid, no matter what was negotiated
beforehand. That’s it. That’s all I Have. Otherwise, to me,
they are no different than say mormans.


31 posted on 08/03/2014 6:42:35 AM PDT by Slambat
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To: McGruff

“They should be able to focus in on the tunnels, drill a hole and drop some rotting pig meat down there. Problem solved”

Drill a small hole where they are and cave the tunnel in
behind them. Drop a mike down the small hole an broadcast the
death throws of the starving minors over the palestinian
airways.


32 posted on 08/03/2014 6:49:33 AM PDT by Slambat
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To: Travis McGee
Use sound equipment to locate tunnels.

I think the tunnels are too deep for ground penetrating radar, but it seems that some sort of sound/seismic technique, inspired by developments in oil prospecting, might be possible.

33 posted on 08/03/2014 6:50:25 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: lee martell

“I was actually quite surprised that the Israeli’s didn’t know of these tunnels. Or maybe they knew about some, but not most. Crush all the tunnels!”

Or, they know about them and by denying knowledge of them can gather intelligence and use it as a basis for taking out Hamas.


34 posted on 08/03/2014 7:01:00 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (GM is dead and Al Queada is alive.)
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To: Travis McGee

Use a mixture of oxygen and acetylene and you would have the Jewish version of a potato gun.


35 posted on 08/03/2014 7:13:45 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Blue Highway
"When Hamas is responsible for this, why is there no international outrage? Why aren’t the media and heads of countries demanding answers as to why there are tunnels? Why is everyone turning a blind eye to the evil of Hamas and worse yet trying to blame Israel for it? Is Hamas the Muslim form of Ebola?"

Your tax dollars paid for them...Obama just sent $47 million more.

36 posted on 08/03/2014 7:17:27 AM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: Slambat

Nope. He dug it out but he’s an efficient hunter. After about 2 minutes of stalking he zeroed in and dug it out in under 10 seconds. He only leaves a hole about 2 inches in diameter.

They used to place bets on how many rats a Jack Russell could kill in a set period of time.


37 posted on 08/03/2014 7:21:47 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Slambat

“they?” “them?” Are you f’ing kidding me? ALL Jews do X? BS - ANY sufficiently large group has good and bad people! Are some worth of be careful about, or do some cheat on business deals? Absolutely...and the same thing applies to Christians, Moslems, Hindus and everyone else on the planet. Similarly, some in each of the groups that I mentioned are quitehhonest and decent and would never engage in unethical dealings.

You want to know why some people hate Jews? It is prejudice, which is another word for wilful ignorance. For example #1, take a look in the mirror.


38 posted on 08/03/2014 7:27:07 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Qiviut
The Rodenator System is the easy and effective way to get rid of burrowing rodents instantly!

That looks like a lot of fun...I want one...bet a larger version would work on the tunnels from Mexico to here too!

39 posted on 08/03/2014 7:32:11 AM PDT by eldoradude (How many republicrats/demoblicans does it take to change a light bulb?)
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To: eldoradude

.... bet a larger version would work on the tunnels from Mexico to here too!

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I had not even thought of that .... I like it!


40 posted on 08/03/2014 7:34:04 AM PDT by Qiviut ( One of the most delightful things about a garden is the anticipation it provides. (W.E. Johns)
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To: Travis McGee

Nitrogen. Fuel air needs a good mix and can be smelled. Flood it with nitrogen faster than they can purge it and they all die in the tunnels. Retrieve the bodies and give them to Mossad for identification and intelligence gatherings.


41 posted on 08/03/2014 7:44:44 AM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: Blue Highway

Because they’re Jews and inbred islamists aren’t.


42 posted on 08/03/2014 8:01:10 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Blue Highway
Is Hamas the Muslim form of Ebola?

Yes.

43 posted on 08/03/2014 8:26:41 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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To: SJackson

It makes me wonder why would Hamas and Hezborah even dare try to attack Israel KNOWING how strong the IDF is?


44 posted on 08/03/2014 8:36:50 AM PDT by Biggirl (¬ďGo, do not be afraid, and serve¬Ē-Pope Francis)
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To: SJackson

Nancy Pelosi will probably defend Hamas says the tunnels are for peaceful reasons. Probably Hamas just wants to recreate the caves of France; and paint artwork on the walls. Yeah that’s the ticket!


45 posted on 08/03/2014 8:40:50 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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To: Travis McGee

Have to be a little careful about detonating concrete lined tamped underground structures.

The tactic is the original mine warfare from WWI.


46 posted on 08/03/2014 8:48:46 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Slambat

CF: George Gilder, “The Israel Test”.


47 posted on 08/03/2014 8:51:30 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: donozark; anton

One possibility explained in great detail:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzabmVIU6EQ


48 posted on 08/03/2014 9:08:17 AM PDT by 1066AD
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To: lee martell

The orcs are trying to get in.


49 posted on 08/03/2014 10:16:42 AM PDT by ZULU (Go REDSKINS!!! Impeach Obama in 2015 !!!)
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To: Kozak

Doesn’t Israel ever need to do some underground nuclear testing, like we did in Nevada? How about a few tests along the border?


50 posted on 08/03/2014 10:44:17 AM PDT by Defiant (4 main US grps: conservatives, useless idiots (aka RINOs), marxists and useful idiots (aka liberals))
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