Skip to comments.Lake Superior, the Great Lakes and Europe Defy Climate Experts
Posted on 08/03/2014 8:55:36 AM PDT by citizen
A little over one year ago, The New York Times and USA Today were reporting that the Great Lakes hit all time lows in water levels. According to those reports, Lake Huron and Lake Michigan were 29 inches below their average measurements taken since 1918. Scientists warned communities that they could only expect more tragedy with the Great Lakes. With a lack of rain from climate change, they told everyone to expect levels to continue to drop.
In an April 2013 report from the International Joint Commission, a group with members from the United States and Canada that advises on water resources, said their five-year study concluded that water levels in the lakes were likely to drop even farther, in part because of the lack of precipitation in recent years brought on by climate change.
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THE GREAT LAKES WATER LEVELS ARE RISING, AND DRASTICALLY
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Go back a year and you can find a lot of us great lakes area FReepers predicting the lake levels would rise in the next year or so.
Way above average rainfall in the summer of 2013 followed by heavy ice cover that prevented evaporation over the winter followed but lots of rain this summer.
Lake Superior surface water about 5 degrees C below average...
There’s “experts” and there’s those who know what they’re doing. Trouble is, too many listen to the “experts” no matter how many times they’re wrong and despite how wrong they tend to be.
I live not to far from Lake Ontario and it seems the healthiest (in water lever and water quality) it has been in years.
1. Record winter snowfall. Detroit got the equivalent of 7 feet of snow in the winter of 2013-2014, the most since 1885.
2. Record cold. All the lakes except Ontario froze over this winter, with ice on Superior not completely disappearing until mid June. This reduced the amount of evaporation fom the lakes.
3. Cold, wet spring.
4. Col, wet summer.
Put all these together and you have the recipe for rising lake levels. Of course this doesn't fit in with the medias narrative of global warming so just ignore the above facts, shall we?
For the past 20 years the climate has defied the “Climate Experts.”
It must be frustrating to be an expert that is always wrong.
I wonder how the current year surface temps compare to one year ago temps? Probably colder, I am thinking.
Y’all were right on it. Probably the same conditions are applying right now.
Sort of like a Democrat.
What they won’t tell you is that the land around and under the great lakes is still “rebounding” from the weight of the glacial ice sheet that covered the region during the last ice age, roughly 12,000 years ago. Those same glaciers carved out the current great lakes, and then filled them with water.
So, the water level will always change, due to something we call “the weather”, and hope that Canada doesn’t call up Michigan, and tell them that they want their chunk of Ontario back, because that would be a whole lot of gravel to move.
Most climate “experts” vs economic “experts” both are full of hot air, just like Al Gore. In it for whatever money they can fleece from deluded followers.
Well, that is a plus. A cooler climate is probably better for the health of Great Lakes and their users.
Draw your own conclusion.
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Not sure what that last means “that [Canada] wants their chunk of Ontario back” but it sounds interesting. What’s the story there?
These “experts” have an agenda on which their scientific pronouncement are based.
Nutty environmentalists are in luck - the MSM will 'miss' this story...
"We moved our base camp last night and were now positioned literally
within feet of the river. Have been sitting here watching the border
patrol patrolling in their riverboats all night and all morning..."
I think he means the Upper Peninsula of Michigan.
Lake Superior surface temps just a little cooler than 2013, but 10 degrees C, 18 degrees F lower than 2012:
Well, I reckon lower lake temps than last year will get the winter ice season on the lakes off to a chilling start.
The climate experts keep proving they inexpert at understanding the totality of the dynamics, and the variables within the dynamics, of weather or climate.
climate “scientists” have managed to correctly estimate the magnitude of change but not the direction...
I agree, but most of the experts in those fields get their money from the government, so their conclusions end up being whatever the government wants. Al gore, who I think had a D average in his science courses isn't an expert in anything except lying and being a hypocrite.
Ah, thanks for the explanation. Quite a story. I guess there’s more gravel exportation from MI than of wheat, say.
I thought Obama exempted the Great Lakes from Climate Change ?
The Great Lakes will freeze over this winter. No sunspots and no warming of the water.
Yet more proof of the calamity that is global warming. /liberal logic
That's pretty much the consensus of the global cooling/ice age web sites. From a layman's point of view, I happen to agree with them.
The documented correlation between low/no sunspot activity, changes in the earth/sun magnetic fields and more clouds/colder weather seems irrefutable.
Yet more proof of the calamity that is global warming. /liberal logic
Quite right, the logic is flawed but that's how lib/green fanatics roll..
Also, before the Great Lakes water levels were rising, they was falling. These falling levels were also proof positive of.....you guessed it - global warming.
Another disaster caused by global warming? Toledo, OH is under siege by....
The attack of the killer algae in Lake Erie
Quite true. The Great Lakes used to be part of glacial Lake Agassiz and most rivers north of Arkansas drained northward.
Wow this global warming stuff can do anything...
I bet soon we will see stories of how flooding along the Great Lakes is due to Global Warming...
Yep, they got it all covered with global warming & climate change. Anywhere it’s too hot, too cold, too wet, too dry, too windy and probably the absence any weather at all they will blame on carbon as well.
Very interesting. I knew the Great Lakes were carved or otherwise formed by the great glacial activity but I had not heard of the rebounding theory.
Wasn’t there have supposed to have been a great filling (or refilling) of the Mediterranean Sea, the Black Sea and I suppose many other ancient basins?
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There is a quite a bit of rebounding land including in northern Europe. Part of the compensation for the rebounding is sinking further south (e.g. here in the midatlantic and southward). I think in Europe the filling of the Black Sea was after sea levels rose a couple hundred feet with the ending of the ice age. Europe also had the Alps covered in ice so there were/are probably other local isostatic effects.