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New Study Sees Atlantic Warming Behind a Host of Recent Climate Shifts
New York Times ^ | August 3, 2014 | By ANDREW C. REVKIN

Posted on 08/03/2014 12:48:03 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Using climate models and observations, a fascinating study in this week’s issue of Nature Climate Change points to a marked recent warming of the Atlantic Ocean as a powerful shaper of a host of notable changes in climate and ocean patterns in the last couple of decades — including Pacific wind, sea level and ocean patterns, the decade-plus hiatus in global warming and even California’s deepening drought

Here’s the University of New South Wales news release:

Atlantic warming turbocharges Pacific trade winds.

Record breaking trade winds may have led to hiatus in global surface average temperatures.

New research has found rapid warming of the Atlantic Ocean, likely caused by global warming, has turbocharged Pacific Equatorial trade winds. Currently the winds are at a level never before seen on observed records, which extend back to the 1860s.

The increase in these winds has caused eastern tropical Pacific cooling, amplified the Californian drought, accelerated sea level rise three times faster than the global average in the Western Pacific and has slowed the rise of global average surface temperatures since 2001.

(Excerpt) Read more at dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: climategate; hoax; marxism; socialism
So, global warming caused the recent global cooling. These people will say anything for taxpayer grant money.
1 posted on 08/03/2014 12:48:03 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

We’re all gonna die!!


2 posted on 08/03/2014 12:50:10 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

3 posted on 08/03/2014 12:51:55 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The New York Slime is quite adept at recycling pure unadulterated bull. Just perhaps the only thing they do well, apart form shilling for the RATS.
4 posted on 08/03/2014 12:52:23 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"Using climate models......."

And, stop right there.

5 posted on 08/03/2014 12:52:26 PM PDT by cincinnati65
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Good, it was always too cold for swimming (except September) and now I can swim more comfortably.


6 posted on 08/03/2014 12:53:28 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: RightGeek

Was it not a horse? Horses leave a bigger wake of bulls***.


7 posted on 08/03/2014 12:54:19 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Climate Change” is a simple IQ test. Ask someone how concerned they are about this. If they register any concern at all, they are a dumbass.


8 posted on 08/03/2014 12:55:17 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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9 posted on 08/03/2014 12:55:38 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Here’s the University of New South Wales “

In what Atlantic bordered country?


10 posted on 08/03/2014 12:59:01 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

New study shows we are having one frightfully cold winter after another in Minnesota these days.


11 posted on 08/03/2014 1:02:53 PM PDT by stevem
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I’m not even sure, but have hurricanes gotten more mild in the Atlantic, on average?


12 posted on 08/03/2014 1:06:56 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“accelerated sea level rise three times faster than the global average in the Western Pacific”

WTF?


13 posted on 08/03/2014 1:12:14 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Since these experts come up with a new theory about global warming every week and they admit they can’t do anything about it, let’s find something more productive with the money we are throwing down this rat hole. Cancel all AGW grants and let Algore and Tom Steyer finance this bunk.


14 posted on 08/03/2014 1:16:03 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
This author again shows his ignorance. The “climate change/global warming” models all say small changes in the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere will create catastrophic and irreversible global warming and every other conceivable kind of weather event.

The the NYT and the author and have been arguing that this is true for the last quarter of a century.

Now the author thinks he has made a huge discovery. He says change in sea surface temperature will cause long term climate change.

Meteorologists and climatologists have known sea surface temperature affects weather for decades. It is part of every predictive model.

Sea surface temperature does not cause long term climate change.

The article is confused and at times almost incoherent. The study that it cites just says that this winter will probably be colder than normal in the eastern United States.

15 posted on 08/03/2014 1:25:26 PM PDT by detective
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Coolest Summer On Record In The US


16 posted on 08/03/2014 1:30:17 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Andrew Revkin is a true believer, he will not be dismayed by the continued evidence thrown at his feet.

Using climate models and observations,

Some guy who wants a wad of government funding for his climate research built a model. He tweaked the model and his set of observations until he got the result that he wanted and voila, proof that global cooling is caused by global warming. One study, one model, one set of data put together by a team with a political agenda is not science and Andrew Revkin is neither a scientist or a journalist.

The oceans are one of the least understood elements of Earth's climate systems, and are by far the most important. We are still using hydrological data collected by the Royal Navy during the age of sail because that's the best that we've got. Atmospheric scientists like Stephen Schneider started the whole global warming cult after they dumped global cooling, the lack of good ocean research has never caught up.

17 posted on 08/03/2014 1:31:05 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Andrew Revkin is a true believer, he will not be dismayed by the continued evidence thrown at his feet.

Using climate models and observations,

Some guy who wants a wad of government funding for his climate research built a model. He tweaked the model and his set of observations until he got the result that he wanted and voila, proof that global cooling is caused by global warming. One study, one model, one set of data put together by a team with a political agenda is not science and Andrew Revkin is neither a scientist or a journalist.

The oceans are one of the least understood elements of Earth's climate systems, and are by far the most important. We are still using hydrological data collected by the Royal Navy during the age of sail because that's the best that we've got. Atmospheric scientists like Stephen Schneider started the whole global warming cult after they dumped global cooling, the lack of good ocean research has never caught up.

18 posted on 08/03/2014 1:31:26 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
...rapid warming of the Atlantic Ocean, likely caused by global warming, has turbocharged Pacific Equatorial trade winds. Currently the winds are at a level never before seen on observed records, which extend back to the 1860s.

Warming Atlantic causes stronger Trades in the Pacific. Okay."

19 posted on 08/03/2014 1:42:16 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: beethovenfan

OK!! Everybody pay attention!

Lesson for today:

1. The sun is 1,300,000 times as big as the earth.

2. The sun is a ball of fire that controls the climates of all its planets.

3. The earth is one of the sun’s planets.

4. The earth is a speck in comparison to the size of the sun.

5. Inhabitants of the earth are less than specks.

Study Question: How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?


20 posted on 08/03/2014 1:59:20 PM PDT by abclily
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To: abclily

Summer is here and the Atlanitic is warning?

Oh the Huge Manatee!!!!


21 posted on 08/03/2014 2:02:00 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (GM is dead and Al Queada is alive.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Layman’s translation of the article: We still don’t have a f*cking clue.


22 posted on 08/03/2014 2:26:16 PM PDT by technically right
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

U.S. Monthly Drought Outlook (map)
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/expert_assessment/mdo_summary.html


23 posted on 08/03/2014 2:29:25 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Doomnation is upon us!


24 posted on 08/03/2014 2:31:17 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I just made up a new word!


25 posted on 08/03/2014 2:31:56 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I want credit.


26 posted on 08/03/2014 2:32:57 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Climate change is very real. For example, the average climate of the northern hemisphere is so cold as to cause the ground to be buried under a thousand feet of ice. The cycle of glacier on/glacier off takes place every several hundred thousand years and can be clearly seen in many ways. Even as the science is settled that glaciation has taken place, the causes are still undergoing vigorous debate.

With respect to the idea that humans are causing harmful changes to the climate at this very moment, I am waiting for some peer-reviewed papers that proposes what the optimum climate is for our biosphere. The first question that would naturally flow would be where is our current climate and trend in relation to this finding.

That nobody seems interested in this vital comparison indicates that climate is primarily being studied for other purposes. Since all the urgent demands that flow from today’s climate science coincidentally converge on policy solutions that involve statism, bigger government, higher taxes, less personal liberty, the bigger picture tells me all that I need to know about “climate science”.


27 posted on 08/03/2014 3:24:03 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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New research has found rapid warming of the Atlantic Ocean, likely caused by global warming ....

>Likely caused: You must buy this supposition as established fact for the rest of the events in the article to have anything to do with global warming. The BIG lie.

28 posted on 08/03/2014 4:18:40 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"New Study Sees Atlantic Warming Behind a Host of Recent reports of small children pooping in their diapers."

Only a massive redistribution of wealth can save us.

29 posted on 08/03/2014 5:44:41 PM PDT by Desron13
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The AMO is as high as it has even been.


30 posted on 08/03/2014 5:51:34 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Actual question... since all the seas are connected, how does the sea level rise in one part of the ocean and not in another?


31 posted on 08/03/2014 5:55:04 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

GW is a lie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyUDGfCNC-k


32 posted on 08/03/2014 6:05:52 PM PDT by Vision (Living in beauty)
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To: Desron13

Well played!


33 posted on 08/03/2014 6:06:01 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If the Atlantic is warming, shouldn’t we be seeing more tropical storms than usual?


34 posted on 08/03/2014 7:28:28 PM PDT by Gumdrop (~)
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To: MediaMole

It must be those “turbocharged Pacific trade winds” piling up the water on that side of the Pacific.


35 posted on 08/03/2014 8:37:53 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: familyop

http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-97.93,35.39,400


36 posted on 08/03/2014 9:24:17 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
And the Day After Tomorrow book and movie were based on scientific claims that global warming would cool the Atlantic and that would cause cooling over the north eastern US. These so called scientists are all over the place. The global warming was supposed to melt Greenland Ice which would stop the Gulf Stream and cool the North Atlantic.

Now they are claiming that global warming has heated the Atlantic and that has cooled the Pacific via faster equatorial trade winds.

Hey bozo's, what if the stronger trade winds were actually a result of global cooling ? With stronger trade winds we get weaker and less El Nino's. And that has been the case the past 10 years. The stronger trade winds are now going to also cool the Atlantic and shift the AMO.

37 posted on 08/03/2014 9:48:52 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: justa-hairyape

How does one ocean get “warming”?


38 posted on 08/03/2014 9:49:29 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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How does one ocean get “warming”?

There are cycles in nature that work at different wavelengths that can vary quite a bit and they can be out of phase with each other occasionally. The PDO and AMO are decadal and their oscillations work over periods of decades or years. El Nino and La Nina work over periods of months or weeks. The PDO has been in cold phase for awhile, while the AMO has been in warm phase. Bastardi is predicting a shift to cool phase for the AMO soon. And obviously one of the ways to cool surface water is for a faster wind to flow over the water.

Other then that, they estimate their are a million undersea volcanic eruption points. Who knows what periods volcanic activity cycles can operate on and if they can be slightly out of phase globally. But in a nut shell, apes are clueless. Always have been, always will be.

39 posted on 08/03/2014 10:06:56 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Gumdrop
If the Atlantic is warming, shouldn’t we be seeing more tropical storms than usual?

Alert ! This person just exercised Free Thought. Send this individual to a reeducation camp immediately. This person needs to attend 10 hours of Al Gore Global Warming seminars each day. Followed by a 10 minute, releasing your shockra session. After two months of this reeducation, you will never ever again raise such intelligent questions in public.

Yes. You are correct. A warmer Atlantic should have produced stronger hurricanes and more US mainland hits with cat 4's and 5's. But something changed right after Katrina. The Earth has been cooling since then. The Atlantic will turn into cooling mode real soon now.

40 posted on 08/03/2014 10:17:07 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: B4Ranch

cool, thanks


41 posted on 08/03/2014 10:23:52 PM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Apparently these are not Atlantic Kangaroos.

Source from
Kangaroos caught in the snow

42 posted on 08/03/2014 11:28:49 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: jpsb

http://hint.fm/wind/

http://weatherspark.com/#!dashboard;a=TX/Dallas


43 posted on 08/04/2014 8:01:31 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: B4Ranch
"http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-97.93,35.39,400"

Very nice! Bookmarked. Thank you.


44 posted on 08/04/2014 4:54:09 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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