Posted on 08/04/2014 5:38:37 AM PDT by Kaslin
Documentation File on the 2014 Impeachment of B. Hussein Obama, aka Barry Soetoro a former Foreign Student from Indonesia, and still a legal Citizen of the Sovereign Nation of Indonesia.
The question is one of the severity of the challenges faced and the skill and perseverance with which the President deals with them. Lincoln faced by far the greatest challenge of any president in our history. Even Washington faced no such challenge as President.
That Lincoln dealt with this challenge as successfully and skillfully as he did makes him IMO the most effective President of all, though as noted in my previous post people disagree strongly on the morality and ethics of his methods.
This disagreement, BTW, is a reinforcement for my original contention that a President's ideology and ethics are even more important than his competence.
Even though I like him, I disagree with Herman Cain on this. How we selected this president is NOT as he said. We elected Obama on election day, not during the campaign season. Hypocritical catholics, who claim to be pro life, gave over 50% of their vote to Obama who is pro abortion. Blacks voted predominantly for him because he was one of them. White liberals voted for him because it was ‘time to elect a black president’ regardless of his qualifications. Black Panthers intimidated voters to vote for him. Illegal aliens voted for him. People being fed at the teat of government voted for him. Unions voted for him in overwhelming numbers. Retirees voted for him in New York and again in Florida. Dead people voted for him. AND with all of the sleaze and law breaking, I don’t think that one person is behind bars as a result. Quite the contrary, some are now heading major departments of the Obama government. We have become a lawless banana republic. That is how Mr Obama was elected.
May or may not be true, but in any case is utterly irrelevant. We don't judge our own citizens in any way based on whether another nation extends its citizenship to them. Nor should we.
Whether BHO is a citizen of Indonesia is not relevant to whether he is a citizen, or a natural-born citizen, of the USA.
One way to not select a President is to put your own sanctimonious self righteous beliefs against the good of the country.
When there are two candidates nominated the vote must be for one of the two’
To cop out by rationalizing a vote for a miniscule third party or to abstain is to make your self irrelevant to the process
Back to the smoke filled rooms! We got some good leaders that way.
Should be noted that Thomas Jefferson was a naturalized citizen of France when he was elected and served two terms as President.
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Bravo!
Herman shouldn’t have quit.
A great guy, he would have done better than Romney.
Never quit, Never give up.
First, they should be required to submit a document that answers a finite list of core questions about their political philosophy and what they would do if elected (I've listed a few below - but there are probably better ones). These would be posted online and in public buildings for everyone to read.
1. Why are you qualified and why do you want to be President of the USA?
2. What, in your opinion, is the role of the President in the USA, the most important functions of the President, and the Constitutional limitations of Presidential power? Give at least two recent examples of what you consider Presidential actions beyond the proper scope of Presidential powers.
3. How will you preserve the personal freedoms of US citizens, and what do you believe are the limits to these personal freedoms?
4. What are the biggest economic issues facing the US, and how will you deal with them?
4. What are the most important foreign policy issues facing the US, and the biggest external threats to US security and prosperity? How will you deal with these?
5. What are the most important internal policy issues facing the US, and how will you deal with these?
6. etc. etc.
Second, they should be required to sit in a room without any outside contact, and write a summary (limited to 15 pages), detailing specifically what they will do as President. This would then be typed and posted for the general public, as above.
This would hold them to something, and force them to take a stand that they could not easily run from.
Even a bungler like obama could have fumbled his way through an average 19th-century presidency. Admittedly, Lincoln’s was anything but average! And obama would have made a collosal mess of
It, if he managed to survive an entire term without being impeached (and disregarding the patent absurdity of a black man being elected president in 1859).
But given the relatively miniscule size and scope of the federal government in the mid-19th century, a solid cabinet and a handful of puppet masters could have carried even an empty suit like obama for four years.
Of course, that also means we have to eliminate the slavery tempest that was brewing, along with all the stresses and political complexities it spawned.
Lincoln, despite his lack of executive experience, rose to the rigors of the office because he was intelligent, perceptive, diplomatic, and principled. Obama is none of those things.
I would add questions about the candidate’s specific leadership experience and whether any of it included dealing with foreign countries.
I am really tired of amateurs .
Don’t disagree, for the most part. But I think you underestimate the challenges faced by politicians in the 1800s. While the machinery they operated through was a great deal less complex, it was also a great deal less powerful, and the staff and other resources they had nonexistent by modern standards.
A 19th century president, with the unique exception of Lincoln, was MUCH less powerful than a modern president.
In essence, what you are saying is that running a 500 employee company is a great deal less difficult than being CEO of Microsoft. While this is certainly true on some levels, it is very much not the case on others. The challenges faced are more often different than they are easier or harder.
It is interesting that Mr. Cain makes no effort to propose a more efficient or effective system.
I also think our present system is idiotic, and I don’t have a proposal that would work, much less one with something resembling a chance for being put into practice.
I do think that conservatives should be doing a “pre-primary” now. Figure out who we want to support and stick with him/her, instead of providing the idiotic picture of us flitting from candidate to candidate for months in search of the perfect conservative that last election provided.
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Do I think he would have made a good president? Yes I do and actually all our candidates would have made a good president with the exception of R.P.
By doing so you are the one who elected him. And by the way, I am Catholic and I have never voted for a demonrat and never will.
So stop tossing all Catholics in the same pot.
My point with the Catholic vote is that various exit polls (52-45, 51,48, etc) indicate that the majority of Catholics voted for Obama. I am not faulting you for being a Catholic as that is my faith too. I do, however, fault all of those who proclaim to be Catholic and still voted for this baby-killer. I will NOT lighten up on those Catholics because they are hypocrites.
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