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Chris McDaniel: I Beat Thad Cochran by 25,000 Votes
breitbart.com ^ | 8/4/14 | Matthew Boyle

Posted on 08/04/2014 2:41:52 PM PDT by cotton1706

Six weeks after the primary runoff election, Mississippi State Sen. Chris McDaniel is launching his formal legal challenge of the election results, saying the evidence is so conclusive that he will be calling for courts to recognize him as the true victor of the race rather than calling for a new election.

“Chris McDaniel clearly, clearly won the Republican vote in the runoff,” McDaniel attorney Mitch Tyner said at a Monday press conference. “I say that very assuredly because that’s what the mathematics show. It’s not what I’m arguing. After the election, we did some post-election polling. We determined that of the Democrats that did cross over, 71 percent of them admitted they will not support the Republican in the general election. When you take those polling numbers and you go in and do the mathematical regressions, you can see that Chris McDaniel clearly won the runoff by 25,000 votes.”

“The short answer is we’re not asking for a new election,” Tyner continued. “We’re simply asking that the Republican Party recognize the person who won the runoff election.”

The campaign of incumbent Sen. Thad Cochran (R-MS), who was certified by the Mississippi Republican Party as having won the runoff by 7,667 votes on July 7, fired back, saying McDaniel had “made repeated and baseless allegations of fraud and misconduct” since the election.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: chrismcdaniel; cochran; elections; mcdaniel; ms; randpaul; thadcochran; votefraud; voterfraud
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1 posted on 08/04/2014 2:41:53 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

What?!?


2 posted on 08/04/2014 2:44:12 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: cotton1706

What does Rang Paul have to say now?


3 posted on 08/04/2014 2:44:53 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: cotton1706

repeated and baseless allegations of fraud and misconduct

Oh yeah? Prove it!
See you in court.


4 posted on 08/04/2014 2:47:47 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: cotton1706

Only Haley’s vote counts.


5 posted on 08/04/2014 2:48:26 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: cotton1706

I am no fan of Cochran and disappointed he won the runoff. However, the theory by which McDaniel’s attorney is claiming a victory is absurd.

Find 6,000 bad votes and protest. If you can’t, just walk away and wait for next election.


6 posted on 08/04/2014 2:50:57 PM PDT by WildWeasel
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To: cotton1706

That’s some fancy lawyering. Beats counting the votes I guess.


7 posted on 08/04/2014 2:51:00 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: cotton1706

Conservatives should vote for the Democrat in the General when the GOPe candidate won with Democrat votes in the Primary.

Fraudsters should lose.


8 posted on 08/04/2014 2:51:15 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The GOP-e scum enlisted Democrats to steal the Republican primary. The GOP-e can go to Hell.)
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To: cotton1706

I must say, this is a strange approach to winning due to fraud.

I find it hard to believe that statistics and not outright identification of sham votes/voters will suffice.

Hopefully, the description provided is too abbreviated.


9 posted on 08/04/2014 2:51:17 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: cotton1706

I’m 100% behind McDaniel, but I sure hope they’re not serious about that plan to declare him the winner based upon regression analysis of polling numbers!

That’s nuts.

Put a different way: if that concept bears fruit, get ready for the ‘rats to hire Nate Silver to do their own “regression analyses” in every damn race in the country in 2014.

I’m pretty sure it’s just legal bluster. Sure hope so. Hope McDaniel prevails and gets a new election and wins that one by a landslide.


10 posted on 08/04/2014 2:51:20 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: cotton1706

From the linked article....

....The evidence, presented to the public in the form of affidavits that will be used in McDaniel’s forthcoming official challenge of election results, is hundreds of pages long and encompasses nearly every one of Mississippi’s 82 counties.

At the press conference, McDaniel announced he will be using such evidence to file a formal challenge of the runoff results with the state GOP executive committee. Ten days after he files the challenge with that body—which, given its extensive ties to the GOP establishment in the state, is expected to rule against the Tea Party-backed McDaniel or just simply ignore the challenge—McDaniel can take the challenge into state court.

“It’s been an interesting six weeks since the 24th. We’ve been very, very busy. We’ve covered the state as well as we could with hundreds of volunteers, but justice has no time table, and yet here we stand. They asked us to put up or shut up—well, here we are. Here we are with the evidence,” McDaniel said.


11 posted on 08/04/2014 2:52:59 PM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: cotton1706

I can hear hard-drives crashing from my front porch!


12 posted on 08/04/2014 2:53:28 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: demshateGod
I'm for more people voting, yuk, yuk,yuk.


13 posted on 08/04/2014 2:55:27 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: Jane Long

Affidavits of what? More people swearing they voted for him than the number of votes he got in the official election numbers?


14 posted on 08/04/2014 2:57:00 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: cotton1706

What, if anything, has been decided in Federal Court regarding the McDaniel campaign’s application that was heard two weeks ago?


15 posted on 08/04/2014 2:58:31 PM PDT by Kennard
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To: cotton1706

The Constitution needs to be amended to make the MAXIMUM age for a US Congressman or Senator 65 years old. That will get rid of the often seen legislator who probably doesn’t have the mental capability to scratch their asses; from voting on legislation that affects US ALL.

By that time, their staff and lobbyists tell them how to vote anyway, and they probably do well to not piss themselves, or remember what state or district they’re from.

I suppose term limits would fix most of this.


16 posted on 08/04/2014 3:01:18 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: WildWeasel

the problem is the state law allowing Democrats to vote for either side in the primary

but then insisting that they must vote for the party in the general that they voted for in the primary.


17 posted on 08/04/2014 3:01:44 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: cotton1706

But Thad had the “Walking Dead” vote...


18 posted on 08/04/2014 3:01:58 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Wolfie
My guess is that he has people attesting to inappropriate practices, such as not exchanging the voting books with the Democrats to stop inappropriate crossover voting (by those who had voted Democrat in the same primary on the original day) and persons who were encouraged (paid) to vote.

If you have enough of these over enough precincts, the argument may have a chance when it gets to court.

19 posted on 08/04/2014 3:02:00 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Nervous Tick
I’m 100% behind McDaniel, but I sure hope they’re not serious about that plan to declare him the winner based upon regression analysis of polling numbers!

That’s nuts.

I agree. This is getting very close to Al Gore's exit polling rational in FL. Very close, indeed. We DO NOT want that nonsense dragged out in every close election from now to eternity.

20 posted on 08/04/2014 3:02:30 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: cotton1706

YES! McDaniel sound very confident!


21 posted on 08/04/2014 3:03:02 PM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: cotton1706

Figures lie,
Liars figure.

Polls, even statistically valid ones will never be accepted for election results.


22 posted on 08/04/2014 3:03:26 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: cotton1706

He’s asking for honor from the GOPe but the GOPe has no honor.


23 posted on 08/04/2014 3:08:25 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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24 posted on 08/04/2014 3:09:41 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: cotton1706

You can’t win an election by polls. They need actual vote counts not projections based on polls.


25 posted on 08/04/2014 3:11:49 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: WildWeasel

>> Find 6,000 bad votes and protest. If you can’t, just walk away and wait for next election <<

Could be a better strategy, and could set McDaniel up to be the favorite in a couple of years — when Roger Wicker is up for re-election. Maybe Mitch Tyner is taking McDaniel for a ride and simply milking the process for maximum legal fees?


26 posted on 08/04/2014 3:13:10 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: ConservativeMind

It’s hard for them to prove it with votes because the courts won’t let them see the books.


27 posted on 08/04/2014 3:13:15 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: cotton1706

You can only disallow votes that are illegal. Apparently, crossovers in Mississippi are legal.


28 posted on 08/04/2014 3:14:13 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Kennard

http://electionlawblog.org/?p=63977


29 posted on 08/04/2014 3:15:59 PM PDT by Kennard
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To: cotton1706

If Cochran is the candidate, vote for the Democrat!


30 posted on 08/04/2014 3:19:08 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Kenny

I’m wondering what the legal angle is here?


31 posted on 08/04/2014 3:19:36 PM PDT by rainee (Her)
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To: Wolfie
More people swearing they voted for him than the number of votes he got in the official election numbers?

No, it's people swearing that they voted in the Republican primary but will never support a Republican candidate in the general election. By Mississippi law a voter can vote in the primary of one party only, and must intend to support the party nominations if they vote in the primary election. It looks like McDaniel is trying to get those votes thrown out.

32 posted on 08/04/2014 3:23:05 PM PDT by ken in texas
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To: WildWeasel; Bryan24

Find 6,000 bad votes and protest. If you can’t, just walk away and wait for next election.
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snip

Mississippi voters don’t register by party, but state law makes so-called crossover
voting — casting a ballot in one party’s primary and another party’s runoff in
the same cycle — a misdemeanor. Tyner said the campaign had found 3,500 instances of
crossover votes, along with the 9,500 “irregular votes” and 2,275 “improperly cast”
absentee ballots. It was not immediately clear what made the votes irregular, or
how the absentee ballots may have been improperly cast.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3188923/posts?


33 posted on 08/04/2014 3:23:10 PM PDT by deport
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To: plain talk

The news media calls elections all the time based on projected numbers. Projection data per se is not unreliable and could be used to sway the court/grand jury to issue a recount.


34 posted on 08/04/2014 3:23:15 PM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, was not there!)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Yes, let’s keep Harry Reid as Majority Leader!


35 posted on 08/04/2014 3:24:16 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert (She accomplished nothing: should have stayed at home and baked cookies)
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To: Uncle Miltie

No. Write in or vote libertarian, perhaps. Or skip that office. But no votes for Dhims.


36 posted on 08/04/2014 3:26:48 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Absurd. Vote third party or skip it.


37 posted on 08/04/2014 3:27:24 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Kenny
They will be allowed to see redacted books, in my understanding. The trouble with that is the amount of time and the fraudulent work possible around redacting.
38 posted on 08/04/2014 3:28:42 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: SgtHooper

I am just responding to the article. They are not asking for a recount. They are asking to be declared winner based on polls. Good luck with that.


39 posted on 08/04/2014 3:30:21 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: ConservativeMind
They will be allowed to see redacted books, in my understanding.

Really? I must have misunderstood. I thought they couldn't see books period, only ballot boxes.

40 posted on 08/04/2014 3:33:54 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: WildWeasel

Agreed. Winning the GOP vote should win you the nomination. But that is not the law in Mississippi. Unfortunately. McDaniel is finished.


41 posted on 08/04/2014 3:36:21 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (Remember Mississippi)
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To: DLfromthedesert

Yes, let’s keep Mitch McConnell as Democrat with an (R) behind his name.

Democrats have the virtue of being honestly leftist.


42 posted on 08/04/2014 3:37:44 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The GOP-e scum enlisted Democrats to steal the Republican primary. The GOP-e can go to Hell.)
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To: cotton1706

I’m not a lawyer, but the move to put this in front of the state GOP Executive Committee is interesting. It forces the Mississippi GOP to either run McDaniel out of town and tell him to go pound sand or to admit what he has is valid. If it’s the former, he goes to court. If it becomes and actual trial, it doesn’t seem like they can withhold the registries because that’s part of the discovery - is it not? If there is a law binding in the state that Democrats cannot vote in both their primaries and in Republican primaries, then the registries would be evidence to prove the case either way, so it seems they would have to allow it only because there is a law in in the state barring crossover voting. If the GOP Executive Committee sides with McDaniel in that, yes, illegal crossover voting happened, then they admit their certified winner is a certified loser.

I wonder what face saving, no statement the Mississippi GOP Executive Committee will give when McDaniel’s case appears in front of them? :)


43 posted on 08/04/2014 3:38:56 PM PDT by antonico
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To: InterceptPoint

I hope he takes Thad down with him then.


44 posted on 08/04/2014 3:39:30 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: deport

Well, then, it looks like he has the beginnings of a case.


45 posted on 08/04/2014 3:40:04 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Uncle Chip
He’s asking for honor from the GOPe but the GOPe has no honor.

I think he is putting them on notice, fix this or you loose the seat as many of his supporters will not vote for someone who needs a medical evaluation as to if he is truly mentally fit to hold the seat.

46 posted on 08/04/2014 3:56:06 PM PDT by taildragger (Not my Circus, Not my Monkey ( Boy does that apply to DC...))
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To: InterceptPoint

I don’t agree that he is finished. Their law requries that a person voting in the Republican primary vote for that prson in the general - with their sworn affadavits - they have the leverage they need to go to court and win. Such pessimism on this forum - all from those who apparently don’t understand the election laws in MS. I’m wondering if the GOP wants this black mark on their candidate going into the general - meaning Cochran of course. They risk losing that seat to the DEM. Its decision time for the GOPe.


47 posted on 08/04/2014 3:59:55 PM PDT by Catsrus (A)
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To: fortheDeclaration
If Cochran is the candidate, vote for the Democrat!

Dyed-in-the-wools would have strokes before doing that. Not enough impudent conservative votes available.
48 posted on 08/04/2014 4:04:57 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: fortheDeclaration

My Senator was involved in this incident of election fraud. I won’t vote dem but I won’t vote back-stabber either.


49 posted on 08/04/2014 4:06:21 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Catsrus
Sorry about that. I withdraw my McDaniel is finished comment. Your post is worth repeating in full and bolded:

I don’t agree that he is finished. Their law requries that a person voting in the Republican primary vote for that prson in the general - with their sworn affadavits - they have the leverage they need to go to court and win. Such pessimism on this forum - all from those who apparently don’t understand the election laws in MS. I’m wondering if the GOP wants this black mark on their candidate going into the general - meaning Cochran of course. They risk losing that seat to the DEM. Its decision time for the GOPe.

50 posted on 08/04/2014 4:08:06 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (Remember Mississippi)
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