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Pat Buchanan and Ron Paul: Apologists for Vladimir Putin
Pajamas Media ^ | 08/06/2014 | Kim Zigfeld

Posted on 08/06/2014 12:40:19 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

As Vladimir Putin’s tanks begin to roll forth from Russia like Sauron’s legions from Mordor, a pair of American villains is working hard to undermine our resolve against the greatest threat from Europe to American values and power, and indeed to world peace, since Adolf Hitler.

Evgeny Feldman, a photographer for the maverick Russian newspaper Novaya Gazeta, recently visited a book store in Moscow and tweeted [1] a photograph from amongst its shelves. Among volumes on one topical shelf such as The Crimes of the U.S.A. and The Third World War and Forward to Victory, in which authors offered bloodthirsty attacks on America and her values and called for its obliteration, one tome stood out. Emblazoned on its cover was the Russian title Прокончит с ФРС by an author identified as Рон Пол.

This was a Russian translation of 2009′s End the Fed [2] by former Texas congressman and presidential primary contender Ron Paul, latched onto by Russian nationalists as an admission by an American that America is a fundamentally evil country leading the world down a path that leads to global ruin.

Days earlier another former U.S. presidential primary contestant, Pat Buchanan of the disgraced Nixon administration, published an opinion column in which he asked, seemingly on behalf of the Russian Kremlin: “How Would We Feel If Putin Told Us What To Do? [3]” Sounding just like Neville Chamberlain, Buchanan viciously attacked Senator Bob Corker of Tennessee, ranking Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, for proposing legislation standing up to Russian aggression in Ukraine and Georgia, and urged the U.S. to simply ignore Putin’s bloodthirsty [4] reign of terror there.

Paul and Buchanan are two individuals who have been decisively repudiated — humiliated, really — at the polls by the people of the United States. More than two-thirds [5] of the American population currently views Russia as an enemy, precisely as Mitt Romney said during the last presidential campaign, and major magazine covers [6] bluntly and dramatically reflect the nation’s horror at Putin’s aggression. Indeed, signs of it are everywhere [7].

Yet the likes of Paul and Buchanan continue to beat the drum of appeasement and indeed collaboration with Putin’s evil, neo-Soviet regime. Time magazine called [8] End the Fed a “curious mix of the sensible and the delusional” and said that it teaches nothing about economics but much about what goes on inside Paul’s skull. The same can be said of Buchanan. Both men mix tiny bits of truth with great tidal waves of delusion to come up with policies that obliterate American values and world leadership and leave the field to despotic tyrants like Putin in the belief that nothing can touch Fortress America, which should simply watch the world burn.

Siding with Corker, Republican Senator Roger Wicker of Mississippi shows by his deeds that he knows Buchanan and Paul don’t represent sensible American policy. He recently fired off a letter [9] to Attorney General Eric Holder demanding that he investigate Putin lackey Mikhail Lesin, who has been feverishly buying up U.S. real estate [10] with funds looted via all manner of corruption. Lesin could be viewed as Putin’s Goebbles, deeply tied to the Kremliln’s English-language propaganda apparatus and struggling furiously to divide the U.S. from its allies and blunt American resolve on Ukraine and Georgia.

Over on the House side, Speaker John Boehner presciently warned the world [11] all about the dangers of Russian aggression before the last presidential election, but unfortunately the voters did not heed his advice and the Obama “reset” continued to fuel the fires of Russian aggression.

Indeed, it seems not even Vladimir Putin is as tough on the U.S.A. as Paul and Buchanan are. Putin recently let American traitor Edward Snowden’s Russian visa expire without renewal [12], a clear signal that Snowden is starting to be viewed as more trouble than he’s worth. And Putin is slowly dithering in his support for the maniacal pro-Russian forces in Ukraine who shot down a Malaysian airliner killing hundreds of innocent people. He’s provided these goons with guns and many Russian soldiers to lead them, but he’s ignored their pleas for Russian invasion and watched the elected government in Kiev launch a firm effort to seize control.

From Norway [13] to Japan [14], the entire world is united in horror at Russian aggression in Ukraine. Even the milquetoast Barack Obama has appointed a new tough-as-nails ambassador to Russia, John Tefft [15], who has proved his mettle by having the Kremlin pitch a hissy fit [16] before he’s even arrived in country. Putin has proved to be the greatest gift to NATO ever, reinvigorating and unifying the creaking alliance, which has now gotten to the brink of providing military support for Kiev to stave of Russian invasion.

But Buchanan and Paul simply do not care about facts or reality. Like the Russians themselves, Buchanan and Paul prefer to dwell in the world of illusions that was openly celebrated by the Russians during the opening ceremonies to this year’s Olympic Games, which Russia hosted. Instead of increasing American power and influence, and instead of standing up for American values, Paul and Buchanan urge the country to retreat like a tortoise into its shell.

More than 80% of Russians [17] (Russian-language link), for instance, believe because of the non-stop tsunami of lies on Russian state TV that it was the Ukrainian army, not the rebel forces, who shot down the Malaysian airliner. Vulgar, brazen displays of wanton Russian aggression on social media [18] confirmed how far out of touch with reality the Russians really are. The delusional attitudes of the people of Russia are eerily similar to those of Paul and Buchanan and even more disturbingly reminiscent of those of the people of the USSR.

Buchanan crazily argues in regard to U.S. demands that Putin release his grip on Ukraine and Georgia that while “a small, weak country might accept this dictation from a superpower” mighty Russia will never do so but will “tell the Americans just what to do with their ultimatum” and “laugh it off.” After it stops laughing, Buchanan says, Russia will then invade Ukraine and seize Kiev to block it from accepting military support from NATO of the kind Russia provided to Crimea.

Nobody can claim that Russia is small in terms of territory, and it certainly has nuclear weapons. But Russia has zero economic growth, it doesn’t rank in the top 125 nations of the world for life expectancy, and it exports virtually nothing except crude fossil fuels. Russia’s military history is littered with spectacular losses and victories so costly that they are better thought of as defeats. It has no significant allies, and the only real threat it poses is one of terrorism, like that posed by North Korea and Syria. Since when does America back down from terrorist bullies?

Buchanan’s text reads disturbingly as if he were threatening his own country on Putin’s behalf. He ends his diatribe by stating: “The American Imperium is folding up.” This is exactly the type of language Putin himself uses. The text is totally devoid of any hint or suggestion as to how the U.S. can combat Russian aggression in Ukraine in an alternative manner to what Corker suggests, meaning that what Buchanan wants is simply to deliver Ukraine and Georgia, and whatever other parts of the former USSR he wants, to Putin on a silver platter. The fact that Ukraine borders three NATO countries the U.S. is obligated to defend means nothing to Buchanan since he clearly believes those allies should be sold down the river as well.



TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: demagogue; eu; globalistagenda; imf; malaysia; mh17; nwovsrussia; patbuchanan; pitchforkpat; putin; randsconcerntrolls; ronpaul; russia; soros; thekemlinwantsyou; voteputin2016
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1 posted on 08/06/2014 12:40:19 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Sorry, ISIS and militant Islam is a far greater threat.


2 posted on 08/06/2014 12:41:52 PM PDT by dforest
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To: SeekAndFind

Sure, let’s fight EVERYBODY’S wars.

Let’s just fight and fight and fight.

Let’s not save or create anything —let’s just make Earth our expensive X-box.

We’ll be BlackwaterLand with a new anthem.


3 posted on 08/06/2014 12:42:32 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: SeekAndFind
Way to whack the hornet's nest! Here, let me help:

Ron Paul to Obama: Let’s just leave Ukraine alone!

4 posted on 08/06/2014 12:43:02 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m split on Putin. On the one hand the cold warrior in me wants to wipe his face in some peace through strength. On the other I enjoy him whiping his arse with Dear Leader’s face. It’s more the latter for sake of clarity but at least there is some benefit to this.


5 posted on 08/06/2014 12:43:42 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: FlipWilson

That’s wiping not whiping. Damn you tiny iPhone key pad.


6 posted on 08/06/2014 12:45:03 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: FlipWilson
Apart from making you feel good, there's no benefit. It's why people watch Oprah.
7 posted on 08/06/2014 12:45:38 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: dforest

You read the article and composed your reply in 70 seconds? Impressive.


8 posted on 08/06/2014 12:46:24 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Looks like you came in real close to me. Not as impressive as I was.


9 posted on 08/06/2014 12:47:19 PM PDT by dforest
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To: SeekAndFind
Once you get past the writer's adjectives describing Buchanan's comments they don't seem so illogical.

No, I'm not a Putin apologist. I'm just going by this article.

10 posted on 08/06/2014 12:47:50 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: dforest

Difference being, I read the entire column first.


11 posted on 08/06/2014 12:49:27 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: SeekAndFind
Well, at least, "From Norway [13] to Japan [14], the entire world is united in horror at Russian aggression in Ukraine. Even the milquetoast Barack Obama . . ." the whole world and milquetoast Barry can be horrified by something.

Obviously piles of the heads of Christians doesn't do it be apparently Vlad being so openly anti-Impaler sure does.

12 posted on 08/06/2014 12:49:48 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Yet the likes of Paul and Buchanan continue to beat the drum of appeasement and indeed collaboration with Putin’s evil, neo-Soviet regime.

There is a type of peace that is disgraceful. It is the type of peace where one person or group threatens another with the initiation of force and the other offers no resistance, but simply obeys. This is the peace of slaves and cowards. It is the type of peace urged on free people by corrupt intellectuals.

13 posted on 08/06/2014 12:49:50 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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they just don't know where to look."

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14 posted on 08/06/2014 12:50:28 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: SeekAndFind

C’mon Hitler? lets wait until Putin captures the low countries, France and bombs England before the war-mongers want us to draft an army, start rationing, put Rosie the Riveter back in the factories.

Of course Paul and Buchanan are correct. We need our troops along our borders not someone else’s. War-mongers get lost. We have give enough blood and treasure. Any chance of raising taxes for another war?


15 posted on 08/06/2014 12:52:15 PM PDT by ex-snook (God forgives and forgets.)
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To: mjp

As Churchill told Chamberlain after Munich, “You were given the choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor, and you will have war.”


16 posted on 08/06/2014 12:52:27 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 1rudeboy

You have no proof. Your word? well...heh

I have already read the Buchanan and Paul columns and still do not see that Russia is a threat to get hyped over at the moment.

The people I mentioned are already here and far more dangerous to us right now.

That thing in the WH is a real threat too.


17 posted on 08/06/2014 12:53:02 PM PDT by dforest
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18 posted on 08/06/2014 12:53:50 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Yet the likes of Paul and Buchanan continue to beat the drum of appeasement and indeed collaboration with Putin’s evil, neo-Soviet regime.

It's a pretty small drum, though.

I don't agree with Ron and Pat, but some dissidence or counter-think or resistance to those who are banging the bigger drums isn't a horrible thing.

20 posted on 08/06/2014 12:56:52 PM PDT by x
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To: SeekAndFind
http://skibinsky.com/no-russian/

Maybe not so much. Check out this URL.

21 posted on 08/06/2014 1:00:55 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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22 posted on 08/06/2014 1:02:33 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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To: dforest

China takes Taiwan. Reason to get “hyped,” or not? Is China a threat?


23 posted on 08/06/2014 1:03:43 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

So what are you going to do about it? Ask Obama? Apparently our Dear Leader isn’t worried about China.

He has it all taken care of.


24 posted on 08/06/2014 1:05:30 PM PDT by dforest
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To: 1rudeboy
"China takes Taiwan. Reason to get “hyped,” or not? Is China a threat?"

Good Qs. No to first, Yes to second.

25 posted on 08/06/2014 1:07:03 PM PDT by ex-snook (God forgives and forgets.)
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To: ex-snook

China takes Senkaku islands. Reason to get “hyped,” or not? Is China a threat?


26 posted on 08/06/2014 1:11:05 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: SeekAndFind
What a nasty piece of work this is. Example: Pat Buchanan of the disgraced Nixon administration

Yes, and?

This is the kind of hit piece I would expect to see at "New Republic" or "Nation", not "Pajamas Media".

27 posted on 08/06/2014 1:12:01 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: 1rudeboy

China takes Hawaii -Yes


28 posted on 08/06/2014 1:14:03 PM PDT by ex-snook (God forgives and forgets.)
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To: Robwin

I happen to admire Nixon for a bunch of things, but yes, he is a disgrace.


29 posted on 08/06/2014 1:14:26 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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So, after watching someone else gobbling-up territory that one feels no need to get "hyped" over, one will be upset when their territory is gobbled-up? Do you see where I'm going with this?
30 posted on 08/06/2014 1:16:48 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: SeekAndFind

Putin is sacred to some of the posters on FR. They’re not happy with a democracy that allows Ron Paul and Pat Buchanan to get less than 3% of the vote. So democracy becomes wrong and Putin becomes their hero.


31 posted on 08/06/2014 1:19:50 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: ex-snook
Obama,MSM are more concerned with Ukraine's border than our own
32 posted on 08/06/2014 1:21:59 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: dfwgator

War is intrinsically honorable to some people. Those people are dangerous and should be locked up.


33 posted on 08/06/2014 1:23:44 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Romulus

Trust me. In Soviet and present day Russia your hopes will be fulfilled. Anyone opposing Putin will be locked up.


34 posted on 08/06/2014 1:25:26 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: 1rudeboy

You want to go to war before our own territory is involved.


35 posted on 08/06/2014 1:31:03 PM PDT by ex-snook (God forgives and forgets.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Birchite Right is now pacifist for one reason and one reason alone: all our current wars are interpreted as benefiting Israel. The JBS was all for involvement in Central America during the Reagan administration, but Israel is a different story to them; it’s the headquarters of the “new world order.”


36 posted on 08/06/2014 1:35:23 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Throne and Altar! [In Jerusalem!!!])
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The Birchite Right is now pacifist for one reason and one reason alone: all our current wars are interpreted as benefiting Israel.

Actually they've been to protect the House of Saud.

37 posted on 08/06/2014 1:36:06 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 1rudeboy
I happen to admire Nixon for a bunch of things, but yes, he is a disgrace

And Pat's role as one of his speechwriters is relevant to his opinions on Putin exactly how?

38 posted on 08/06/2014 1:43:17 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: SeekAndFind

I think Putin’s fans should move to Russia or to North Korea or to someplace they’d like better than the U.S. We don’t need people who take the side of our enemies.


39 posted on 08/06/2014 1:44:56 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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The Birchite Right is now pacifist for one reason and one reason alone: all our current wars are interpreted as benefiting Israel.

Actually they've been to protect the House of Saud.

Try telling the Birchites that. To them and their camp followers the Israelis rule the world and are implicated in everything from "gay marriage" to the policy of the Federal Reserve (because all those bankers are Jews, don'tcha know).

The JBS wanted to fight every Commie in the world back in the day (well, except for the Arab Commies who were "good" for some reason). They were against burning draft cards. They supported the troops. They had a front group (the Western Goals Foundation) advocating American "interference" in Central America. But now that the Commies are "gone," all that is forgotten. The people who used to support the troops and care for America's interest now call for an end to support for American troops and label anyone who disagrees a "red state fascist." Our current wars are the first wars the Birchite Right has opposed since World War II.

Now . . . what's the one thing in common between World War II and today's wars, hmmm???

40 posted on 08/06/2014 1:45:47 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Throne and Altar! [In Jerusalem!!!])
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To: SeekAndFind
If public doesn't want EU expansion, We do it anyway ( EU President)

EU , Soros agenda

41 posted on 08/06/2014 1:48:12 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t know about Buchanan but Ron Paul has been a non-interventionist for a long time on many different situations. Even if you don’t agree with Paul’s non-interventionism, I don’t see how a case can be made that Paul is a Putin apologist.


42 posted on 08/06/2014 1:59:07 PM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: opentalk

That is exactly what they did too. It is also what Obam is doing as we speak.


43 posted on 08/06/2014 2:00:59 PM PDT by dforest
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No, but he qualifies as an “useful idiot,” in the Russian’s eyes.


44 posted on 08/06/2014 2:26:13 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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The media is on the same page. There was one American with dual Dutch citizenship on the plane.

No media concern for Benghazi American victims, Marine in mexican jail...

45 posted on 08/06/2014 2:44:40 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: SeekAndFind

Comparing Putin and Russia to Sauron and Mordor is a good analogy.

I can understand Buchanan and Paul cautioning us not to rush to fight another war but they miss the fact Russia is already at war and we are Russia’s target.

Their defense of Russia as the victim and Ukraine as the aggressor is delusional. I don’t take either of them to be stupid though so they have no honor in knowingly lying about the facts of just what is going on.

Paul has always said liberty is the most important value but he is outspokenly against anyone else’s liberty such as the Ukrainians. How do they imagine we will remain free and prosperous when the rest of he world is overrun by the Russians and Jihdists?


46 posted on 08/06/2014 3:00:24 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: free_life

“but he is outspokenly against anyone else’s liberty such as the Ukrainians.”

My posting history clearly shows I’m no Paulastinean, but he has said that we shouldn’t be INVOLVED in Ukraine.
He has not spoken out against anyone’s liberty.

This kind of hyperbolic BS is exactly why we are, where we are today.


47 posted on 08/06/2014 3:03:05 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: free_life

If (God forbid), Russia takes (or re-takes as the case may be ) Ukraine, does anyone think they’re going to stop at that?

Moldova, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, etc. are all there for the taking. We’re practically going to go back to the map of the cold war.

BTW, I wonder how Buchanan felt working under Reagan as his communications director, who does not think like him in terms of foreign policy...

I’m certain he couldn’t be the one who helped to draft the historic “Tear Down This Wall” speech.


48 posted on 08/06/2014 3:05:27 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: elhombrelibre
Putin is the best thing to come along in this century.

He's stuck in your craw and you can't spit him out.

49 posted on 08/06/2014 3:06:08 PM PDT by duckln
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To: tcrlaf

RE: My posting history clearly shows I’m no Paulastinean, but he has said that we shouldn’t be INVOLVED in Ukraine.
He has not spoken out against anyone’s liberty.

In other words, he is for anyone’s liberty but we as a country should not even so much as HELP them achieve that liberty.


50 posted on 08/06/2014 3:06:36 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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