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Death of James Brady, Reagan press secretary, ruled a homicide
foxnews.com ^ | 8/8/14 | ap

Posted on 08/08/2014 5:09:09 PM PDT by ColdOne

A medical examiner has ruled the recent death of former White House press secretary James Brady, who was wounded in the 1981 assassination attempt on President Ronald Reagan, a homicide, raising the possibility John Hinckley Jr. could be charged with murder.

Members of the Metropolitan Police Department’s Homicide Branch, the United States Attorney’s Office, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation are reviewing the case, according to a police press release issued Friday.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: brady; hinckley; jamesbrady
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1 posted on 08/08/2014 5:09:09 PM PDT by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

Huh. So then if I die when I hit 73, does that mean the VC who shot me finally got a confirmed kill?


2 posted on 08/08/2014 5:11:53 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: ColdOne

Politics rears its ugly head.


3 posted on 08/08/2014 5:11:56 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American.ad Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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To: ColdOne

This changing things. No more weekend passes eh Johnny boy?!


4 posted on 08/08/2014 5:12:34 PM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles (To be a Liberal is to be anti-American, by definition.)
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To: ColdOne

ridculous


5 posted on 08/08/2014 5:15:35 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: ColdOne

This one has his wife written all over it (again).


6 posted on 08/08/2014 5:17:35 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: ColdOne

i don’t care, fox is now running satire.


7 posted on 08/08/2014 5:23:42 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ColdOne

IIRC, a victim must die within a year and a day in order for the death to be ruled a murder.


8 posted on 08/08/2014 5:29:57 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: P-Marlowe

Depends on the state.


9 posted on 08/08/2014 5:31:42 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Chainmail

Only if the reason you died was related to the bullet.


10 posted on 08/08/2014 5:32:08 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: ColdOne
Interesting. Why are they focusing on James Brady, as if I have to ask, Pres. Reagan has already died and and he took a bullet from Hinckley. Intent was certainly demonstrated.

In California there is sort of a statute of limitation if the death is not immediate.

“194. To make the killing either murder or manslaughter, it is not requisite that the party die within three years and a day after the stroke received or the cause of death administered. If death occurs beyond the time of three years and a day, there shall be a rebuttable presumption that the killing was not criminal. The prosecution shall bear the burden of overcoming this presumption. In the computation of time, the whole of the day on which the act was done shall be reckoned the first.”

This is at the state level though. Apparently the federal level is variable if you are Sarah Brady and you lose your stage prop.

11 posted on 08/08/2014 5:33:01 PM PDT by Polynikes (What would Walt Kowalski do. In the meantime "GET OFF MY LAWN")
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To: Chainmail

LOL! That’s great!


12 posted on 08/08/2014 5:45:15 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (America is not a refugee camp! It is my home!!!)
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To: Chainmail

Only if they can ID the shooter


13 posted on 08/08/2014 5:48:20 PM PDT by squirt (POLITICIANS & DIAPERS NEED TO BE CHANGED, FOR THE SAME REASON)
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To: Spktyr

I sort of doubt that James Brady died any earlier than he normally would have - he was overweight all those years ago. I think they’re reaching for their own agenda.

Chances are, I most likely will die earlier than most thanks to that VC bullet - tends to to throw off blood clots periodically. I count each new day as a gift.


14 posted on 08/08/2014 5:48:27 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: ColdOne

Until I hear more, I’m going to assume the media overreacted to a technical term in the autopsy. I’ll bet this goes away.


15 posted on 08/08/2014 5:52:32 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Peace On Earth! Purity of Essence! McCain/Ripper 2016)
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To: Polynikes
I think it will be hard to prove a proximate cause for the death.

73 is not exactly young.

And I'll wager that his death was natural, not related to the bullet in any way.

O/T a bit, but:

There have been convictions for murder when a person isn't even physically harmed.

As in a violent robbery and the shopkeeper has a fatal heart attack, due to the stress.

16 posted on 08/08/2014 5:52:58 PM PDT by boop (I just wanted a President. But I got a rock.)
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To: ColdOne

So, Harcourt Fenton Mud croacted, eh.


17 posted on 08/08/2014 5:53:13 PM PDT by technically right
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To: Chainmail

If he died from an infected pressure ulcer, or a deep vein thrombosis leading to a pulmonary embolism, or pneumonia because of limited lung expansion, you might make the case that the crippling injury he suffered was the cause of his death.


18 posted on 08/08/2014 5:55:20 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: ColdOne

I’m fine with this.

Don’t try to assassinate or kill someone, and you’ll never have to worry about it.

James Brady suffered greatly before he died. The shooter deserves to suffer now.


19 posted on 08/08/2014 5:56:09 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens ~ J.R.R. Tolkien)
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To: ColdOne

Mrs. Brady will turn this into a cash cow....now that she doesn’t have him to exploit.


20 posted on 08/08/2014 5:58:17 PM PDT by Daffynition ("We Are Not Descended From Fearful Men")
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To: ColdOne

Thanks, heard on the radio today.


21 posted on 08/08/2014 6:03:09 PM PDT by wita
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Two percent a day keeps the 404 away.
Don't let FR fade away!

22 posted on 08/08/2014 6:04:25 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: ColdOne
So 33 years later the gunshot wound is the proximate cause of death?

I call BS. This is obviously agenda driven.

23 posted on 08/08/2014 6:13:57 PM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: ColdOne

Maybe he bled to death waiting for the police to respond.


24 posted on 08/08/2014 6:16:00 PM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: mountainbunny

I’m fine with the murder charge for a decades-old act, too, if you can tie the injury to the cause of death. What I’m confused about is how they expect to convict when he was already found not guilty by reason of insanity. Would that decision not stand, and would this not be retrying him for the same act, with merely a higher charge?


25 posted on 08/08/2014 6:18:30 PM PDT by Defiant (4 main US grps: conservatives, useless idiots (aka RINOs), marxists and useful idiots (aka liberals))
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To: P-Marlowe
IIRC, a victim must die within a year and a day in order for the death to be ruled a murder.

That was the rule at common law, but many states have changed it by statute.

26 posted on 08/08/2014 6:20:05 PM PDT by JackOfVA
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To: Senator_Blutarski

“Maybe he bled to death waiting for the police to respond.”

I find it interesting that he was able to stay alive all of these years. But now that Obamacare is in place.....


27 posted on 08/08/2014 6:26:57 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: ColdOne

Just because someone is judged insane doesn’t mean a homicide didn’t take place. I don’t the facts of what the ME found. Since Hinckly was found insane I doubt there will be a retrial.


28 posted on 08/08/2014 6:27:48 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: wita

...and now I’m more confused than ever. Guess there is no substitute for reading the article.


29 posted on 08/08/2014 6:27:51 PM PDT by wita
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To: ColdOne

Interesting... Was he being treated at the VA, or was it obamacare that was the cause of death?


30 posted on 08/08/2014 6:31:56 PM PDT by j_guru
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To: ColdOne
After 30 years I sincerely doubt that I would vote,as a juror,to convict Hinkley of murder in any of its degrees.Attempted murder,sure,but no physician,no group of physicians,could convince me beyond a reasonable doubt of *murder*.
31 posted on 08/08/2014 6:52:58 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (We're The First Generation Not Forced To Fight To Defend Our Freedom.And It Shows!)
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To: Daffynition
Mrs. Brady will turn this into a cash cow....now that she doesn’t have him to exploit.

That never occurred to me but I'll bet the clothes on my back that you're right.I despise that woman more than just about any person alive today.

32 posted on 08/08/2014 6:57:19 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (We're The First Generation Not Forced To Fight To Defend Our Freedom.And It Shows!)
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To: Chainmail

LOL. Only a Marine. ;-)


33 posted on 08/08/2014 7:01:06 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Defiant
I’m fine with the murder charge for a decades-old act, too, if you can tie the injury to the cause of death. What I’m confused about is how they expect to convict when he was already found not guilty by reason of insanity. Would that decision not stand, and would this not be retrying him for the same act, with merely a higher charge?

I guess we don't really know if they expect to bring charges.

Even if they can't bring charges, though, if he died as a result of the shooting, it should say "homicide" on his death certificate.

The truth is the truth, no matter what.

Maybe Mr. Brady's children could sue the shooter? My understanding is that the shooter's family has (or had) quite a bit of money.

I was a kid when President Reagan was shot. One of the most upsetting, saddest days of my life. I know precisely where I was when I heard it and remember feeling shocked out of my skin. I have less than no sympathy for the shooter, whose name I choose to not even write.

He tried to kill an elected president. There are few acts more un-American than what he did. He should not be out going to movies and spending weekends on vacation.

34 posted on 08/08/2014 7:05:35 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens ~ J.R.R. Tolkien)
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To: JackOfVA; Spktyr
That was the rule at common law, but many states have changed it by statute.

The shooting was in DC, so federal law would apply. Unless there was a specific statue changing the rule, the common law rule would still apply. Regardless, I don't think that there is a 21 years and a day rule in any state.

FWIW, California changed it to 3 years and a day.

35 posted on 08/08/2014 7:12:02 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: mountainbunny
He tried to kill an elected president. There are few acts more un-American than what he did.

Nothing personal, but that attitude is un-American!

The POTUS should not be any more important than the guy who works the midnight shift @ 7-11. We used to understand that in America. I was always proud that Hinckley got a fair trial, even if I didn't like the outcome.

Nowadays, they shoot trespassers on sight near our rulers.

36 posted on 08/08/2014 7:13:18 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Peace On Earth! Purity of Essence! McCain/Ripper 2016)
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To: ColdOne

I’m all for keeping Hinckley locked up. But this has the stink of James’ skiffy wife. She can’t quit politicking even when her husband has been dead for a day. She’s every bit the pig that Billary is.


37 posted on 08/08/2014 7:21:21 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Visualize whirled peas.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Unless you’re a good lib with all kinds of connections. They were all jacked-up about trying GW Bush for war crimes until it was pointed out that he didn’t deviate from the plan that the UN voted ‘for’ unanimously.


38 posted on 08/08/2014 7:23:54 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Visualize whirled peas.)
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To: mountainbunny
He should not be out going to movies and spending weekends on vacation

And Jodie Foster movies are right out!

39 posted on 08/08/2014 7:37:26 PM PDT by Defiant (4 main US grps: conservatives, useless idiots (aka RINOs), marxists and useful idiots (aka liberals))
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To: Chainmail

As I recall, Dan Rather reported Brady died on the day of the shooting.


40 posted on 08/08/2014 7:52:25 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: Gay State Conservative

She is dead too.


41 posted on 08/08/2014 8:02:11 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Ignore my comment. My mother dropped me on my head and I was thinking of some other person.


42 posted on 08/08/2014 8:05:08 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: ColdOne

Isn’t 33 years pretty obviously ex post facto?


43 posted on 08/08/2014 8:16:59 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: ColdOne

Progressives want to use the corpse for gun control.


44 posted on 08/08/2014 8:26:12 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: ColdOne

Another ‘stat’ for his wife.


45 posted on 08/08/2014 8:31:09 PM PDT by xone
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To: Forgotten Amendments

Personally, the office holder may not be more important than any other individual, but the office is more that one man.

Taking away the representative that a majority of Americans voted for is un-American in the extreme.

This is why people get so bent out of shape when President Obama disrespects the office. It isn’t about him.


46 posted on 08/08/2014 8:33:36 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens ~ J.R.R. Tolkien)
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To: ColdOne

It’s clear, then, that America’s mothers are all guilty of homicide, since they gave birth to children in a world in which death is inevitable.


47 posted on 08/08/2014 8:33:41 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Chainmail

“Huh. So then if I die when I hit 73, does that mean the VC who shot me finally got a confirmed kill?”

Depends.

Was the shooter a Democrat? An Obama contributor?


48 posted on 08/08/2014 8:37:13 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and for what Muslims do.)
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To: ColdOne

Complete nonsense.


49 posted on 08/08/2014 8:38:42 PM PDT by Cyman (We have to pass it to see what's in it= definition of stool sample)
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To: ColdOne

Very interesting that we can put a local slant on it here in Cincy. Remember the “bored teens” case who beat the man to within an inch of his life. He died less than a year after the beating but the ME/DA came out and said the man “died of natural causes” and no further charges will be sought against the bored teens. Mind you they served some house arrest, and had to write a book report. I believe at least one has been arrested again since the beating.

http://topconservativenews.com/2014/05/six-teenage-thugs-who-killed-pat-mahoney-in-cincinnati-racially-motivated-hate-crime-will-do-no-jail-time/


50 posted on 08/08/2014 8:47:58 PM PDT by Finatic (Sometimes I think it would be nice to just get it on and get it over with. Once and for all.)
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