Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

US sending arms to Kurds in Iraq
AP ^ | 8/11/2014 | LOLITA C. BALDOR and MATTHEW LEE

Posted on 08/11/2014 2:26:22 AM PDT by markomalley

The Obama administration has begun directly providing weapons to Kurdish forces who have started to make gains against Islamic militants in northern Iraq, senior U.S. officials said Monday.

Previously, the U.S. had insisted on only selling arms to the Iraqi government in Baghdad, but the Kurdish peshmerga fighters had been losing ground to Islamic State militants in recent weeks.

The officials wouldn't say which U.S. agency is providing the arms or what weapons are being sent, but one official said it isn't the Pentagon. The CIA has historically done similar quiet arming operations.

The move to directly aid the Kurds underscores the level of U.S. concern about the Islamic State militants' gains in the north, and reflects the persistent administration view that the Iraqis must take the necessary steps to solve their own security problems.

(Excerpt) Read more at hosted.ap.org ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; is; isis; kurdistan; kurds; rop; yazidi; yazidis
And in other news, this gives Sultan President Erdogan of Turkey all the excuse he needs to withdraw Turkey from NATO and to kick any remaining US forces out of the country.

(Don't get me wrong, arming the Kurds is necessary, but there will be a price...and feckless Obama will be shocked at the Turks' reaction to this)

1 posted on 08/11/2014 2:26:22 AM PDT by markomalley
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: markomalley

Flintlock or matchlock?


2 posted on 08/11/2014 2:32:26 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: markomalley

Though late, this is probably the first actual acceptable thing this administration has ever done. About fecking time!


3 posted on 08/11/2014 2:56:01 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If it doesn't include border security, it isn't "reform." It's called "amnesty.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

I thought kurds were kind of the local good guys, why would Obama arm them unless it is just a way to get Turkey into the conflaguration


4 posted on 08/11/2014 3:49:44 AM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%i)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: dsrtsage

“.........The CIA has historically done similar quiet arming operations.”.........

Wasn’t there something about arms going through Lybia that were to be redirected to Syria not too long ago?


5 posted on 08/11/2014 4:09:15 AM PDT by DaveA37
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

Did You Know?

The Current FReepathon Pays For The Current Quarter's Expenses?

Now That You Do, Donate And Keep FR Running


6 posted on 08/11/2014 5:14:22 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dsrtsage

“I thought kurds were kind of the local good guys, why would Obama arm them unless it is just a way to get Turkey into the conflaguration”

Actually, Turkey and the Kurds in Northern Iraq have come to terms with each other and have allied for the moment against ISIL’s attempted push into Kurdish territory. The reason for this alliance is, of course, oil. The Kurds have it, the Turks want it. And there is a pipeline plan (or maybe it already exists, can’t remember) down into Turkey from the Kurdish territory for shipment of oil to and through Turkey.

So, the Kurds and Turkey are momentarily allied and Turkey has come to terms with the idea that there may be a Kurdish state formed, as long as they can do mutually beneficial business together.


7 posted on 08/11/2014 6:13:44 AM PDT by flaglady47 (The useful idiots always go first)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: ScottinVA

I guess mac daddy read in the news paper of the trouble in Iraq while there was a pause in his vacation/golfing schedule.


8 posted on 08/11/2014 6:16:45 AM PDT by chiefqc
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: ScottinVA

Whoa there. We need to know the specifics before jumping on this bandwagon. For example, US may be dropping in weapons, but the ammo arrives 4 weeks thereafter. You know, stupid stuff like that.


9 posted on 08/11/2014 8:10:25 AM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, was not there!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: markomalley

The Kurds may be the ones, along with Iran, to finally come out and quash ISIS. But it will be for their own purposes and to gain territory.


10 posted on 08/11/2014 10:26:31 AM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Thunder90
The Kurds may be the ones, along with Iran, to finally come out and quash ISIS. But it will be for their own purposes and to gain territory.

The Kurds are willing to fight to hold and gain territory against these animals. If that results in their getting a sovereign state, so be it. The Iraqi "army," though it outnumbered ISIS by a factor of 20+, turned and ran like rabbits when ISIS engaged them in Mosul. The central government in Baghdad can go piss on itself.

11 posted on 08/11/2014 11:57:27 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If it doesn't include border security, it isn't "reform." It's called "amnesty.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: flaglady47; ScottinVA; 2ndDivisionVet; dsrtsage; no-to-illegals; SunkenCiv; All

My understanding is that the pipeline for Kurdish oil through Turkey is already in use. Also a Kurdish Turk ran (was allowed?) against Erdowan in the election. Apparently we are arming the Kurds as well as Bagdad. Regarding the Yazidi/Christian problem, when we bombed ISIS that opened a small corridor which enabled some to walk 12 miles to Kurdish Syria area where they were transported to a bridge to walk back into Kurdish Iraq. One man had to leave his elderly parents and wife and 3 day old baby behind. Some supplies were dropped between refugees and ISIS and not recoverable. Hope helpers get dropped to help the helpless dying of thirst and starvation. This link has over 60 photos showing refuge church in Irbil, as well as people struggling toward rescue. Check out the link that shows detailed map of mountain, Yazidi villages, and ISIS positions. Also over 200 comments.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/exodus-from-the-mountain-yazidis-flood-into-iraq-following-us-airstrikes/2014/08/10/f8349f2a-04da-4d60-98ef-85fe66c82002_story.html


12 posted on 08/11/2014 3:10:28 PM PDT by gleeaikin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

jennifer whats her name (i forget the last) the pentagon correspondent for fox just reported it was auto rifles and ammo the cia were funneling to the kurds also reported the us were conducting 60 recon missions daily

Mike


13 posted on 08/11/2014 3:16:52 PM PDT by MikeinMotley
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: markomalley

Turkey leaving NATO is a good thing. Kicking NATO forces out of Turkey? Mixed bag. Useful piece of real estate on one hand, difficult to keep secure in Islamicized country, on the other. I’m sure Greece and Cyprus would be happy to host the displaced forces, perhaps if Cyprus regains full control of Larnaca into the bargain.


14 posted on 08/11/2014 3:27:14 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Eleutheria5

Turkey’s gone anyway. I don’t want NATO to be on the hook when the Israelis attack Turkey’s next flotilla.


15 posted on 08/11/2014 3:28:37 PM PDT by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator

There’s that, too.


16 posted on 08/11/2014 3:30:45 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Eleutheria5

It will be interesting to see if Turkey aligns with Russia, what it will mean for Cyprus.


17 posted on 08/11/2014 3:32:08 PM PDT by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator

That would be an historical first. Turkey and Russia are old enemies, and the slavic Balkans, kin to Russia, would definitely have some problems with an alliance with their one-time oppressor. If it happened, it would definitely bring Cyprus firmly into western orbit, strengthen their ties with Israel and Greece, due to chronic dysfunctionality of EU, US and UN. Who else would protect them from the Russian bear and the Turkish jive.


18 posted on 08/11/2014 3:42:48 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: ScottinVA

Don’t get too excited, they are only sending ammo and guns. The Kurds will still not have the weaponry needed to stop ISIS.

The media only reports what makes Obama look good without the detail needed to judge his actions.


19 posted on 08/11/2014 3:48:03 PM PDT by dforest
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: dforest

I’m pretty sure the Kurds will make the determination as to the sufficiency.


20 posted on 08/11/2014 5:29:07 PM PDT by ScottinVA (If it doesn't include border security, it isn't "reform." It's called "amnesty.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: ScottinVA

Well true, but what are they to do if the weaponry sent is not sufficient?

Obama and his media tend to be dishonest about what Obama is really doing. What he says and what he does are two different things. :)


21 posted on 08/11/2014 5:36:34 PM PDT by dforest
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: markomalley

On one hand I totally agree the Iraqi’s need to stew in their own creating, they did kick us out based on what Iran wanted. On the other hand the Kurds actually are one of the sane people in the Middle East. We should abandon Iraq and let Iran handle the Sunni’s(if they can which so far they haven’t done squat) and focus on letting the Kurds establish their own state(Turks be damned).


22 posted on 08/11/2014 8:37:46 PM PDT by Almondjoy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: gleeaikin

Iraq general: 70% of Yazidis on Mount Sinjar are dead
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3191696/posts


23 posted on 08/11/2014 11:47:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Flintlock or matchlock?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

2000 MA Deuces, and 10,000 extra barrels! The Pesh Merga weapon of choice, along with 20,000 ton of 50 cal tracer,armor piercing and depleted uranium rounds./S

That should do it for 2 weeks or so.


24 posted on 08/13/2014 3:19:32 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: SgtHooper
"For example, US may be dropping in weapons, but the ammo arrives 4 weeks thereafter."

Great point. Does anyone think that the DoD is MORE efficient after 5 years of Obama?

25 posted on 08/14/2014 7:43:28 AM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson