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Thomas Ravenel: Lindsey Graham Needs to Give Us a Price Tag, Body Count, for His Vision in Iraq
independentpoliticalreport.com ^ | 8/11/14 | Jed Ziggler

Posted on 08/12/2014 12:26:02 PM PDT by cotton1706

Lowcountry businessman and independent U.S. Senate candidate Thomas Ravenel today issued the following statement challenging Lindsey Graham to stop “warmongering and fearmongering” and provide taxpayers with the specific costs associated with his vision for Iraq.

During an appearance on “Fox News Sunday,” Graham said U.S. president Barack Obama needed to “go on the offensive” against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS).

“First of all, I’m confused by Senator Graham’s statements,” Ravenel said. “Didn’t his buddy John McCain recently pose with ISIS fighters that our government supported in Syria? How exactly does he square that? Why would we support ISIS in one country yet bomb it in another?”

Ravenel also said Graham’s “if we don’t go there, they will come here” argument was nothing but “recycled McCain rhetoric.”

“John McCain spouted the same nonsense in 2008,” Ravenel said. “Nobody bought it then, and nobody’s buying it now. Here’s my challenge to Lindsey Graham: Stop fearmongering using other people’s sound bites – and other people’s blood and treasure – and give us some hard numbers. Tell us exactly how much is it going to cost to mold Iraq into the country you want it to be? We know trillions of dollars and thousands of lives have already been lost there in the name of ‘nation-building’ – yet the situation is worse than it’s ever been. So tell us Senator: How many more trillions of dollars is it going to take? How many more dead heroes? How many more lost limbs? How many more shattered families? How many more PTSD victims?”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections
“It’s telling that Linsdey Graham had time to appear on yet another insider talk show in Washington, D.C. – yet he still refuses to answer to the people by participating in the citizen-led town hall debates I’ve proposed,” Ravenel said. “Every candidate in this race needs to stand before the people and hear their views and answer their questions – especially Lindsey Graham.”

Whatever happens in SC in November, I'm enjoying SOMEBODY hitting Graham hard.

1 posted on 08/12/2014 12:26:02 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

This Ravenel character sounds like someone from Code Pink. His pronouncements rail against drones, Gitmo, and how we are perceived by the maniacs in the ME. Anyone outside the fever swamps of the anti-war hard left or the Ron Paulites should not consider voting for this guy.


2 posted on 08/12/2014 12:33:21 PM PDT by gusty
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To: cotton1706

“Ravenel also said Graham’s “if we don’t go there, they will come here” argument was nothing but “recycled McCain rhetoric.”

Problem is ISIS has stated that we are a target. It may take awhile but the bullseye is still on our country. I agree in not arming anyone in Syria. We should have armed the Kurds and a couple of others. Now people are dying by the thousands at the hands of ISIS.


3 posted on 08/12/2014 12:34:43 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Parley Baer

Her is more garbage from this Ravenel’s own website.

“American leaders need to break from the interventionist policies of the past, focusing on specific

policies detrimental to how the U.S. in perceived by the Islamic community, including the continued manipulation of Middle-Eastern affairs, an unrestrained use of Predator Drones,and the ethical dilemmas surrounding Guantanamo Bay, while nurturing potentially positive relationships in the region.”

Sounds like this guy mike like wearing Birkenstocks.


4 posted on 08/12/2014 12:38:00 PM PDT by gusty
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To: gusty

Here is more garbage from this Ravenel’s own website.

“American leaders need to break from the interventionist policies of the past, focusing on specific

policies detrimental to how the U.S. is perceived by the Islamic community, including the continued manipulation of Middle-Eastern affairs, an unrestrained use of Predator Drones,and the ethical dilemmas surrounding Guantanamo Bay, while nurturing potentially positive relationships in the region.”

Sounds like this guy might like wearing Birkenstocks.

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5 posted on 08/12/2014 12:40:41 PM PDT by gusty
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To: cotton1706

what ravenel meant was, “I want to know lindsey graham’s price for an 8-ball”.


6 posted on 08/12/2014 12:54:46 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: gusty

for those that aren’t aware of the microscopic details of SC politics, this guy plead guilty to cocaine charges not that long ago.


7 posted on 08/12/2014 12:57:32 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: cotton1706

Oddly, these Dems don’t feel the need to give us a “body count” for their pro-terrorist policies.


8 posted on 08/12/2014 1:01:47 PM PDT by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: JohnBrowdie
We console ourselves with the knowledge that SC has a stellar US House delegation (except for Clyburn and Sanford). We have Tim Scott, and DeMint does what he can at Heritage. I cannot abide Graham. I was hopeful when this Ravenel popped up on the radar and was ready to tolerate his "eccentricities." But he he is a spoiled brat trading on his daddy's name.

People here have such reverence for names. (Seems to be the same everywhere in this mobocracy.) Otherwise this Ravenel bufoon would never have received any attention.

9 posted on 08/12/2014 1:16:52 PM PDT by Bill W was a conservative (Profile, detain, interrogate, deport.)
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To: cotton1706

Ravenel is afraid Lindsay will cut off some of his Coke supply coming out of Afghanistan!


10 posted on 08/12/2014 1:20:12 PM PDT by El Zoro
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To: Bill W was a conservative

the guy is going to get obliterated. he’s an embarrassment. but the outlanders in the “anybody but [fill in the blank]” crowd frequently get ahead of themselves, and start trying to hype whack jobs.


11 posted on 08/12/2014 1:47:25 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: cotton1706

“...issued the following statement challenging Lindsey Graham to stop “warmongering and fearmongering”.”

He really didn’t need to go beyond that. Properly portraying Graham as what he is, an advocate for a totalitarian police state, is good enough.

“No, senator Graham, America would NOT be better off as a prison, its people always menaced at gunpoint by secret police, spies, and soldiers. If you cannot control your paranoid neurotic impulses, then you should not be in the US senate. Stop freaking out, senator.”


12 posted on 08/12/2014 2:37:20 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: JohnBrowdie

“or those that aren’t aware of the microscopic details of SC politics, this guy plead guilty to cocaine charges not that long ago.”

And the faggot commie Granholm is engaged in treason.


13 posted on 08/12/2014 5:09:37 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave

. . . I assume you aren’t talking about the former governor of michigan. although people frequently wondered if she was a genuine socialist, I don’t recall anyone ever accusing her of being gay.


14 posted on 08/12/2014 6:08:13 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: cotton1706

Whatever happens in SC in November, I’m enjoying SOMEBODY hitting Graham hard.
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HELL YEAH!!! But, my question is this: What news outlet carried these remarks by Ravenel? Stuff like this is great to read on Free Republic, but, does the general public have access to this or is it just on a blog? Did he call a news conference and offer this challenge to Graham through the media or on Facebook? Actually, his comments, with a little tweaking would make a great 60 second Ad.


15 posted on 08/12/2014 6:50:49 PM PDT by Din Maker (I've always been crazy, but, that's the only thing that has kept) me from going insane.)
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To: JohnBrowdie

I meant Graham, not Granholm.

Oops!

And yes, Granholm, former governor of Michigan, is a thieving commie. The bitch owes me $370,000.

Have a great day.


16 posted on 08/12/2014 6:51:59 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: gusty; All

Anyone outside the fever swamps of the anti-war hard left or the Ron Paulites should not consider voting for this guy.
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Oh really?? Well, to be quite honest, being from a long line of military men in my family, and having served myself, I used to be somewhat of a war monger myself. But, I’m a little tired of American boys and girls being killed and maimed in those shit-hole Islamic nations. Nothing is going to change their thinking, culture or way of life. We lost 55,000 American lives in Vietnam and then pulled out and the Communist took over South Vietnam and the entire country is now Communist. So, whassup with that?


17 posted on 08/12/2014 6:56:37 PM PDT by Din Maker (I've always been crazy, but, that's the only thing that has kept) me from going insane.)
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To: Din Maker
HELL YEAH!!! But, my question is this: What news outlet carried these remarks by Ravenel? Stuff like this is great to read on Free Republic, but, does the general public have access to this or is it just on a blog? Did he call a news conference and offer this challenge to Graham through the media or on Facebook? Actually, his comments, with a little tweaking would make a great 60 second Ad.


I believe high times and penitentiary digest both cover his campaign. perhaps even, elementary school playground drug dealer monthly

18 posted on 08/12/2014 7:04:56 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: JohnBrowdie; All
DAMN!!! There sure are a lot of Lindsey Graham supporters on this website. No wonder we can't get rid of the RINOs when so many FReepers are freakin' in love with Pat Roberts, Thad Cochran, Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham. If all of you who are attackin Ravenel aren't voting for Graham, who the hell are you voting for; Hutto, the Democrat?
19 posted on 08/12/2014 7:06:47 PM PDT by Din Maker (I've always been crazy, but, that's the only thing that has kept) me from going insane.)
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To: cotton1706

Has this Ravenel moron ever heard of ISIS? Graham at least has a brain. I’d vote for the poofta over Ravenel.


20 posted on 08/12/2014 7:09:33 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Din Maker
you have no clue what you're talking about. again. I'm beginning to wonder if you ever know what the hell you're talking about.
21 posted on 08/12/2014 7:10:38 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: JohnBrowdie; All

this guy plead guilty to cocaine charges not that long ago.
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And that is not nearly as bad as the High Crimes and Misdemeanors perpetrated by Lindsey Graham and Barack Obama. Ravenel paid his debt to society and is clean and sober. It would be interesting to put your life under a microscope, John, and see what skeletons are in your closet. Since you hate Ravenel, I guess you’re supporting Graham; or, maybe the Democrat. “...He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone.....” Jesus Christ / John 8:7


22 posted on 08/12/2014 7:16:01 PM PDT by Din Maker (I've always been crazy, but, that's the only thing that has kept) me from going insane.)
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To: Din Maker
this guy plead guilty to cocaine charges not that long ago. _____________________________________________________________ And that is not nearly as bad as the High Crimes and Misdemeanors perpetrated by Lindsey Graham and Barack Obama. Ravenel paid his debt to society and is clean and sober. It would be interesting to put your life under a microscope, John, and see what skeletons are in your closet. Since you hate Ravenel, I guess you’re supporting Graham; or, maybe the Democrat. “...He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone.....” Jesus Christ / John 8:7


are you drunk? srsly.

23 posted on 08/12/2014 7:18:47 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: El Zoro

Ravenel is afraid Lindsay will cut off some of his Coke supply coming out of Afghanistan!
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If you wouldn’t make a statement like that, people wouldn’t know just how ignorant you really are. He’s not on Coke. He’s clean and sober and paid his debt to society. Tell us about your past El ZERO.


24 posted on 08/12/2014 7:21:31 PM PDT by Din Maker (I've always been crazy, but, that's the only thing that has kept) me from going insane.)
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To: gusty; All

TO ALL YOU LINDSEY GRAHAM LOVERS AND SUPPORTERS ON HERE:

Please answer two questions:

#1. Since you hate Ravenel, who are you supporting in this Race? Surely not the Libertarian; his views are close to Ravenel’s. Hutto, the Democrat? Or, Lindsey Graham?

#2. Would you rather have someone who did cocaine for a short time, and is now clean, or a sissy, Democrat loving, faggot who pretends to be a Conservative?


25 posted on 08/12/2014 7:29:27 PM PDT by Din Maker (I've always been crazy, but, that's the only thing that has kept) me from going insane.)
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To: Din Maker

Never tried any illegal drugs and for a man to do illegal drugs while in elected office he should never be able to run again. I will put my real reputation up against you and Thomas anytime.


26 posted on 08/12/2014 7:29:50 PM PDT by El Zoro
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To: jwalsh07

I’d vote for the poofta over Ravenel.
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“poofta” ? Is that another word for faggot?


27 posted on 08/12/2014 7:31:47 PM PDT by Din Maker (I've always been crazy, but, that's the only thing that has kept) me from going insane.)
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To: JohnBrowdie

HEY JOHN BROWDIE..... Instead of your lame attempts at attacking me, WHY DON’T YOU ANSWER MY FREAKIN’ QUESTIONS? Because you don’t know how to have an intelligent conversation. All you can do is run down people. You are one pathetic p.o.s.


28 posted on 08/12/2014 7:34:30 PM PDT by Din Maker (I've always been crazy, but, that's the only thing that has kept) me from going insane.)
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To: El Zoro

Never tried any illegal drugs
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Is that the only crime in America? How many DUIs? Public Intoxications? Domestic Violence Charges? Extortion and Mail Fraud? Breaking and Entering? Hot checks..............


29 posted on 08/12/2014 7:39:08 PM PDT by Din Maker (I've always been crazy, but, that's the only thing that has kept) me from going insane.)
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To: Din Maker
HEY JOHN BROWDIE..... Instead of your lame attempts at attacking me, WHY DON’T YOU ANSWER MY FREAKIN’ QUESTIONS? Because you don’t know how to have an intelligent conversation. All you can do is run down people. You are one pathetic p.o.s.


you didn't ask a question. at least you didn't in your last rant. honestly, you're just embarrassing yourself. you should stop -- either stop drinking or stop posting. doing both isn't going very well for you tonight.

30 posted on 08/12/2014 7:41:48 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Din Maker

Sounds like you are very familiar with most of the crimes. Do I detect guilt. As I have said I will compare records with you and Thomas with a little wager on the side anytime.


31 posted on 08/13/2014 5:47:29 AM PDT by El Zoro
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To: El Zoro

Sounds like you are very familiar with most of the crimes. Do I detect guilt.
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Hell no; no guilt here El ZERO. I’m a Criminal Justice Major of many years.


32 posted on 08/14/2014 5:26:56 PM PDT by Din Maker (I've always been crazy, but, that's the only thing that has kept) me from going insane.)
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To: Din Maker

How long you been in school? I retired from policing twenty years ago smart a$$!


33 posted on 08/14/2014 7:16:19 PM PDT by El Zoro
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To: El Zoro

How long you been in school? I retired from policing twenty years ago smart a$$!
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Am I supposed to be impressed? I graduated from UT Arlington in 1978. This is my first year to be retired from teaching.


34 posted on 08/15/2014 4:20:06 AM PDT by Din Maker (I've always been crazy, but, that's the only thing that has kept) me from going insane.)
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To: Din Maker
I do not care about your impressions one way or the other.You are a teacher without real experiences apparently. Do as I say,Liberal know it all!
35 posted on 08/15/2014 7:12:30 AM PDT by El Zoro
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