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An Atheist Group Got The Navy To Remove Donated Bibles From All Lodges, Hotels
The Daily Caller ^ | 8/12/2014 | Tristyn Bloom

Posted on 08/12/2014 3:48:34 PM PDT by markomalley

Military chaplains are calling for donated Bibles to be allowed in Navy lodges after an atheist group successfully lobbied to have them removed.

The atheist nonprofit Freedom from Religion Foundation sent a letter to the Navy complaining about the Bibles back in March. The Bibles had been donated by various Christian charities, including the famous Gideons International, who have distributed nearly 2 million Bibles to hotels, motels, hospitals, schools and prisons since its founding in 1908. This shocking discovery was brought to their attention by two FFRF member servicemen who noted that “nearly every Navy lodging room” they’d stayed in over the course of their careers contained a Bible.

“Providing bibles to guests in Navy-run hotels amounts to a government endorsement of that religious text,” the letter explains. “Including bibles sends the message to non-Christian and non-religious guests that they should read the bible… Such a practice alienates non-Christian guests whose religious beliefs are inconsistent with the message being promoted by the bibles, including the 20% of the U.S. population that is nonreligious.”

The Navy responded a few months later, ordering the Navy Lodge General Manager to “remove religious material currently in the guest rooms.”

“By removing bibles from Navy-run lodges, the Navy has taken a step to ensure that it is not sending the impermissible message that Christians are favored over guests with other religious beliefs or over those guests with no religion,” said FFRF Staff Attorney Sam Grover at the time.

Now a chaplain advocacy group is speaking out.

“A Bible in a hotel room is no more illegal than a chaplain in the military,” said former chaplain Col. Ron Crews, currently Executive Director of the Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty. “There is nothing wrong with allowing the Gideons to place Bibles in Navy lodges, which it has done for decades at no cost to the Navy. Our service men and women are often away from home, sometimes for long periods of time. It’s perfectly constitutional and legal to allow the Gideons to provide, at their own expense, this source of comfort for service men and women of faith.”

According to a 2012 Military Times poll, 76 percent of American servicemen and women identify as some kind of Christian.

“It’s tiresome to see senior military leaders needlessly cave in to activist groups offended by anything Christian,” continued Crews. “We sincerely hope that the Navy will reverse its decision as the Air Force did in 2012 after the public spoke loudly and clearly against this sort of censorship.” (RELATED: Federal Court Tells Atheist Group ‘The Ground Zero Cross Stays)

Prior to 2012, the Air Force lodging checklist included the question “Is a Bible provided?” After pressure from the Military Association of Atheists and Freethinkers, the question was removed, but the Bibles themselves were not.

The Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force and Coast Guard all have lodging and hotel programs providing discounted accommodations to active duty, reserve and retired servicemen and women and their families throughout the world.

FFRF also encourages civilians to request “Bible-free rooms” when staying at privately-owned hotels and motels. “We shouldn’t have to pay high prices to be proselytized in the privacy of our own hotel or motel room,” according to FFRF Co-President Dan Barker. “We shouldn’t have to open our bedside table to find in it a so-called ‘holy book’ which glorifies violence and discrimination against nonbelievers, women, gays and children.”


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1 posted on 08/12/2014 3:48:35 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Sick, unhappy troublemakers.


2 posted on 08/12/2014 3:50:48 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens. KILL THE BILL!)
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To: markomalley

“Tolerance” on display.


3 posted on 08/12/2014 3:53:29 PM PDT by Fungi (Read this post only if you are willing to accept the following: John:8:32.)
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To: markomalley

I have been in hotels where the bedside table book was the teachings of Buddha, and in hotels where the book was the Quran, and I was not offended. Only the gospel is an offense, because the gospel goes on offense against the devil. I wonder, however, if there are any people who decide to learn about the Bible just to see what all the fuss is about; God works His will by any heavenly means necessary.


4 posted on 08/12/2014 3:53:53 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I hope those miserable freaks enjoy this life, ‘cuz they sure as Hell aren’t gonna like the hereafter.


5 posted on 08/12/2014 3:53:55 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: markomalley

Maybe they should try reading one.


6 posted on 08/12/2014 3:55:51 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: TexasRepublic

Like your tagline—right on.


7 posted on 08/12/2014 3:59:27 PM PDT by Fungi (Read this post only if you are willing to accept the following: John:8:32.)
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To: TexasRepublic

And the hereafter is for eternity......not like a few years here.


8 posted on 08/12/2014 4:01:18 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens. KILL THE BILL!)
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To: TexasRepublic

x2


9 posted on 08/12/2014 4:01:18 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: stephenjohnbanker

If you looked like her you would be in bad mood all the time too.


10 posted on 08/12/2014 4:04:32 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I’m tired of these people. It’s time to get militant and in the face of these dingleberries.


11 posted on 08/12/2014 4:04:52 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: markomalley

“Equality”

gay pride marches in, Christians out.


12 posted on 08/12/2014 4:05:02 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: jsanders2001

: )


13 posted on 08/12/2014 4:05:23 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens. KILL THE BILL!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Time to get in their faces.


14 posted on 08/12/2014 4:05:54 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens. KILL THE BILL!)
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To: Ronin

We have to stand up to them


15 posted on 08/12/2014 4:07:44 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens. KILL THE BILL!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
We have to stand up to them

I agree but they have arranged the law so that no matter if they win or lose in court the taxpayers pay and if they win the awards are mind boggling. Same with most of the lefty groups. There is no downside to their lawsuits.

16 posted on 08/12/2014 4:15:13 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: TexasRepublic

“I hope those miserable freaks enjoy this life, ‘cuz they sure as Hell aren’t gonna like the hereafter.”

Dittos from a fellow Texan!


17 posted on 08/12/2014 4:16:16 PM PDT by longhorn too
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To: markomalley
“We shouldn’t have to pay high prices to be proselytized in the privacy of our own hotel or motel room,” according to FFRF Co-President Dan Barker.

Dan -- can I call you Dan? If you don't open The Book, you won't be proselytized. Couldn't you just overlook it like the sample body lotion you don't use? Do you also lay awake at night and plot how to get rid of the decaffeinated coffee packs you never use in your hotel room? That one gets me, forcing decaff on people who don't want decaff.

18 posted on 08/12/2014 4:16:26 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: chajin

>>Only the gospel is an offense

Yes it is. Because it is truth and it convicts. The FFRF calls themselves “freethinkers”. I agree. They follow the first freethinker in God’s creation, Satan.

They’re falling for the same line he used to convince the angels to follow him in rebellion: “We are independent of God.” The FFRF will share in Satan’s reward.


19 posted on 08/12/2014 4:20:40 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyranni)
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To: markomalley

This country wasn’t founded on the idea that all religions are equal or that they should be treated as such. Christianity was and should be favored and given preeminence. Obviously that position is now reserved for Atheists and soon to be all those hostile to the Christian belief system; they have no plans to relinquish their position shy of a bullet.


20 posted on 08/12/2014 4:22:02 PM PDT by Sheapdog (Chew the meat, spit out the bones - FUBO - Come and get me)
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