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Study: You Have 'Near-Zero' Impact on U.S. Policy
Breitbart ^ | August 12, 2014 | Wynton Hall

Posted on 08/13/2014 6:29:13 AM PDT by COUNTrecount

A startling new political science study concludes that corporate interests and mega wealthy individuals control U.S. policy to such a degree that "the preferences of the average American appear to have only a minuscule, near-zero, statistically non-significant impact upon public policy."

The startling study, titled "Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens," is slated to appear in an upcoming issue of Perspectives on Politics and was authored by Princeton University Professor Martin Gilens and Northwestern University Professor Benjamin Page. An early draft can be found here.

Noted American University Historian Allan J. Lichtman, who highlighted the piece in a Tuesday article published in The Hill, calls Gilens and Page's research "shattering" and says their scholarship "should be a loud wake-up call to the vast majority of Americans who are bypassed by their government."

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: constitution; cronycapitalism; elections; foundingfathers; globalelite; government; lichtman; politics

1 posted on 08/13/2014 6:29:13 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: COUNTrecount

Here in Democrat Maryland not only don’t my votes count but my GOP POTUS primary votes don’t either as those are over by the time they reach Maryland, in fact in Maryland the GOP allows independents to vote in their primaries.


2 posted on 08/13/2014 6:33:00 AM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: COUNTrecount

This is no surprise.


3 posted on 08/13/2014 6:33:43 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: COUNTrecount

Surprise, surprise, surprise ...


4 posted on 08/13/2014 6:34:58 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: COUNTrecount

Lesson learned: Don’t be an average citizen.


5 posted on 08/13/2014 6:35:56 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: COUNTrecount

What would be more interesting to see if this result has been the same over time and the US has been and always will be an Oligarchy.


6 posted on 08/13/2014 6:37:16 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: COUNTrecount

The average American voter is disconnected from their government. With virtually no grasp of even basic civics, they vote for the best con man on the ballot, send him or her to D.C., then go back to sleep.


7 posted on 08/13/2014 6:39:41 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: COUNTrecount

We live in a country where popular votes are overturned by courts, bureaucracies and executive powers all the time. We have lived in an oligarchy run by leftist for a long time.

the difference between the US and USSR? Not so much anymore.


8 posted on 08/13/2014 6:40:10 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: COUNTrecount

Near zero?!?!?!

Nonsense, I have a 1 in 300,000,000 impact.


9 posted on 08/13/2014 6:40:52 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: COUNTrecount

Startling? No

The RNC ought to read this. Conservatives know this. They know the disconnect between this and what the founders set forth. A lot didn’t vote for Romney I’d guess those who didn’t vote McCain didn’t vote Romney and the number grew.

The RNC can figure that out and extrapolate from their. It might affect the primary this time. Maybe not

Maybe the RNC is so intent in being the minority they’ll run a Romney again. But it will be very obvious Whatever that’s worth

But this is not at all startling. It’s not even news


10 posted on 08/13/2014 6:41:34 AM PDT by stanne
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To: COUNTrecount

When the EPA can condemn the coal mining states to economic disaster, no matter how it hurts thousands of Americans, and this president and his attorney general can refuse to obey laws they don’t like (DOMA), it seems that the Leftist agenda is being forced down the throat of Americans. Polls show that Americans know that Big Government, not Big Business, is the biggest danger to the nation.


11 posted on 08/13/2014 6:43:38 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Right Brother

Civics class. Ok.

We blame the government school the way BO blames others

Actually parents are the primary teachers. If that’s not the case it’s only so because the people ceded that responsibility. But the truth is parents owe to their children and to our country a basic education in civics


12 posted on 08/13/2014 6:45:37 AM PDT by stanne
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To: COUNTrecount
This article is impossible.

As Eric "Lamp" Holder sez, "voting is our most basic Right".

13 posted on 08/13/2014 6:47:09 AM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: txrefugee

I agree up to blaming big government as the biggest threat, big government is big business now. They are one and the same and it is getting worse by the day. The amalgamation between the Banksters/subsidized industrialists/media/elected central government is too cozy to overlook IMO.


14 posted on 08/13/2014 6:49:23 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: COUNTrecount
When the Founding Fathers wrote "We The People", did they mean to include the common man or did they mean "We", the elite, educated, landed gentry? America, and the world for that matter, has always been ruled by the elite and always will be. Public opinion be damned. The wisdom of the Founding Fathers was to include some check and balances on the elite through the Constitution, what little good that does us now.
15 posted on 08/13/2014 6:49:52 AM PDT by buckalfa (Long time caller --- first time listener.)
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To: glorgau

Your ideas are not 1 in 300,000,000 in theory. Your rights and freedoms are protected by the logically assembled constitution. It is those that are not represented by a usurping oligarchy. They’ve hijacked a lot. Mark Levin pointed out yesterday how the immigration system was unconstitutionally molested in 1962 by the USSC and a supermajority dem congress both houses


16 posted on 08/13/2014 6:51:14 AM PDT by stanne
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To: buckalfa

No.

You think the founding fathers were cynical and corrupt?

I think you’d better check with a constitutional scholar on that


17 posted on 08/13/2014 6:54:51 AM PDT by stanne
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18 posted on 08/13/2014 7:01:52 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Right Brother

We get the government we deserve.


19 posted on 08/13/2014 7:01:58 AM PDT by kabar
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To: COUNTrecount

Well of course. Been saying that for decades. While conservatives can easily ID left corporatist enemies, the fact that they refuse to ID the ones on the Right is what is going to sink us.

The Koch Bros are NOT our friends. They are NOT Patriots.

There are others. Those people do not know Left from Right. They only know expediency.


20 posted on 08/13/2014 7:17:57 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: stanne
"You think the founding fathers were cynical and corrupt?"

I want to believe that the Founders were altruistic and divinely inspired in their writings. Yet it is hard to deny that the separation from England was in part motivated by the desire to at least maintain economic and political power among the colonial elite of their time. That is human nature.

21 posted on 08/13/2014 7:24:00 AM PDT by buckalfa (Long time caller --- first time listener.)
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To: COUNTrecount
"Noted American University Historian Allan J. Lichtman, who highlighted the piece in a Tuesday article published in The Hill, calls Gilens and Page's research "shattering" and says their scholarship "should be a loud wake-up call to the vast majority of Americans who are bypassed by their government."

So what's his solution? What's his agenda? Probably something that would increase the power of the Left.
22 posted on 08/13/2014 7:33:30 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: COUNTrecount
"A startling new political science study concludes that corporate interests and mega wealthy individuals control U.S. policy to such a degree that "the preferences of the average American appear to have only a minuscule, near-zero, statistically non-significant impact upon public policy."

Who is his "average American"?
23 posted on 08/13/2014 7:36:18 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: buckalfa

Well as I said your question is for a constitutional expert. For people to interpret the intent of the founders by inserting an uninformed opinion is what gets people misinterpreting the whole thing and that’s where trouble starts

It’s human nature to want ones opinion to be respected too, doesn’t make the opinion correct

I never argue a case with an uninformed opinion either mine or tge other guys

I see that on ‘The Five’ and I suppose it happens commonly

Andrea was spouting something on mental illness yesterday and everyone nodded

It was her opinion. She was not quoting a doctor shed spoken with nor a patient. Her opinion

She is a journalist. She has what life experience? She interviewed no one What does she know? But she has an opinion

I turned off the TV. Waste of time

See a constitutional lawyer

I have nothing to add any more than you do
It is an opinion


24 posted on 08/13/2014 7:39:06 AM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

I think it’s too late to save this republic. The stupid disease is too entrenched in the illiterate electorate.

It died when they changed who could vote. (originally only property owners)


25 posted on 08/13/2014 8:35:32 AM PDT by bicyclerepair (Barry is but a symptom of the disease that killed this republic. TERM LIMITS ... TERM LIMITS)
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To: bicyclerepair

Whatever


26 posted on 08/13/2014 8:41:00 AM PDT by stanne
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To: COUNTrecount

Drastic changes were made to my city, Los Angeles. Most of those changes involved just a handful of people, the police chief, the City Council, union leaders and judges. I live in the San Fernando Valley, a part of Los Angeles with about 3 million people. The fact that Americans moved out of the San Fernando Valley attests to the fact that we didn’t want to live in a third world city and didn’t agree with our elected officials or the courts. What can you do about the courts?
The states of Mississippi, Arkansas, Utah, Kansas, Nevada, New Mexico, Nebraska, West Virginia, Idaho, Hawaii, Main, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Montana, Delaware, South Dakota, Alaska, North Dakota, D.C., Vermont, and Wyoming all have less than 3 million people.
Los Angeles County has 9,818,605 people, making it the country’s largest county. That makes Los Angeles County more populace than 42 states, so what happens here should be a forewarning.
The importation of foreigners throughout America is Obama’s intent on destroying America’s sovereignty. I expect he will be seen as the “Johnny Appleseed” of a One World Order.
Below, I picked out 5 schools at random in the 4 corners of the SFV and one in the center.
Chatsworth Park Elementary School in the NW corner of the San Fernando Valley (SFV)
http://www.greatschools.org/california/chatsworth/1994-Chatsworth-Park-Elementary-School/?tab=demographics
37% Hispanic
31% White
10% Black
20% Asian
44% Free Lunch

Sylmar Elementary School in the NE of the SFV
http://www.greatschools.org/california/sylmar/2413-Sylmar-Elementary-School/?tab=demographics
94% Hispanic
1% White
2% Black
2% Asian
93% Free Lunch
Reseda Elementary School in the middle of the SFV
http://www.greatschools.org/california/reseda/2342-Reseda-Elementary-School/?tab=demographics
85% Hispanic
1% White
2% Black
11% Asian
91% Free Lunch

Capistrano Avenue Elementary School in the SW corner of the SFV
http://www.greatschools.org/california/west-hills/1975-Capistrano-Avenue-Elementary-School/?tab=demographics
60% Hispanic
19% White
4% Black
15% Asian
5% Free Lunch

Arminta Street Elementary School in the SE corner of the SFV
http://www.greatschools.org/california/north-hollywood/1910-Arminta-Street-Elementary-School/?tab=demographics
92% Hispanic
4% White
1% Black
3% Asian
2% Free Lunch

Haddon Avenue Elementary School used to be a Black community in the SFV
http://www.greatschools.org/california/pacoima/2123-Haddon-Avenue-Elementary-School/?tab=demographics
99% Hispanic
0% White
0% Black
0% Asian
100% Free Lunch

Marvin Elementary School in Los Angeles
http://www.greatschools.org/california/los-angeles/2229-Marvin-Elementary-School/?tab=demographics
86% Hispanic
1% White
12% Black
0% Asian
21% Free Lunch

In 1940 in L.A. there were 86.3% White and 7.1% Hispanic
In 1970 in L.A. there were 61.1% White and 17.1% Hispanic
In 2010 in L.A. there were 37.3% White and 39.9% Hispanic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles#Demographics
http://www.wnd.com/2014/07/new-obama-rule-could-force-cities-to-house-illegals/

In 1977, The California Supreme Court ordered the Los Angeles School District to come up with a plan to desegregate their schools. The school district came up with forced bussing and parents moved out of the Los Angeles School District.
It was called “White Flight”. Homes became hard to sell, apartments were hard to rent and schools started closing. Illegal aliens replaced Americans in Los Angeles. Teachers and all government employees answering to the gods of the unions turned against Americans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desegregation_busing_in_the_United_States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_flight
Special Order 40 is a police mandate implemented in 1979 by the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD), its Police Chief Daryl Gates and the Los Angeles City Council preventing LAPD officers from questioning people for the sole purpose of determining their immigration status. The mandate was passed in an effort to encourage residents who are in the country illegally to report crimes without intimidation. The order states:
Officers shall not initiate police action with the objective of discovering the alien status of a person.
Officers shall not arrest nor book persons for violation of title 8, section 1325 of the United States Immigration code (Illegal Entry).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Order_40
Los Angeles became a sanctuary city.
In 1992 Cardinal Roger Mahony said 771 lives in Los Angeles County were lost last year due to gang violence and brought terror to families.
http://articles.latimes.com/1992-09-18/local/me-635_1_auxiliary-bishop
Back in 1994, Californians had had enough and voted for proposition 187, it passed 58.93% to 41.07%.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_187_%281994%29
Proposition 187 included the following key elements:
1. All law enforcement agents who suspect that a person who has been arrested is in violation of immigration laws must investigate the detainee’s immigration status, and if they find evidence of illegality they must report it to the attorney general of California, and to the federal Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS). They must also notify the detainee of his or her apparent status as an alien.
2. Local governments are prohibited from preventing or limiting the fulfillment of this requirement.
3. If government agents suspect anyone applying for benefits of being illegal immigrants, the agents must report their suspicions in writing to the appropriate enforcement authorities.
4. A person shall not receive any public social services until he or she has been verified as a United States citizen or as a lawfully admitted alien.
5. A person shall not receive any health care services from a publicly funded health care facility until he or she meets the requirements above.
6. A public elementary or secondary school shall not admit or permit the attendance of any child until he or she meets the requirements above.
7. By 1996, each school district shall verify the legal status of each child enrolled within the district and the legal status of each parent or guardian of each child.
8. A child who is in violation of the requirements above shall not continue to attend the school 90 days from the date of notice to the attorney general and INS.
9. The attorney general must keep records on all such cases and make them available to any other government entity that wishes to inspect them.
10. The manufacture, distribution, sale, or use of false citizenship or residency documents is a state felony punishable by imprisonment or fine.
Judge Mariana Pfaelzer overturned the majority of the law. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariana_Pfaelzer
In a landmark decision, U.S. District Court Judge Denise Cote has found that Westchester County falsely claimed that it was meeting its obligation to affirmatively further fair housing (“AFFH”). The ruling – rejecting the County’s motion for summary judgment – instead granted partial summary judgment to the Anti-Discrimination Center (“ADC”).
http://www.antibiaslaw.com/westchester-false-claims-case/federal-judge-westchester-made-false-claims-us-over-6year-period
Judge Denise Cote rules that the federal government’s zoning laws supersede local zoning laws forcing housing for the poor in all neighborhoods. This judgment means that you can no longer expect to move up to a better neighborhood with better and safer schools. Expect high density apartments to move into your neighborhood along a transportation corridor.
Isn’t that what Obama’s decision to import illegal alien children is all about, to implant the seed to an open society, free of borders, place these kids throughout the United States to places that refused to be sanctuary cities?
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/08/Arizona-to-Ban-Residents-from-Voting-in-Statewide-Elections-if-Lacking-Proof-of-Citizenship
On October 8, 2013 Breitbart had this column. Arizona required proof of citizenship, but the United States Supreme Court stuck it down saying that the federal guidelines only required a “stated” citizenship requirement.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/02/us-usa-arkansas-voters-idUSBREA410YD20140502
Voter ID is illegal

http://www.oregonlive.com/today/index.ssf/2014/04/wisconsin_voter_id_law_struck.html

In 2011 Newt Gingrich at Values Voter Summit – How to Fight Back Against Out-of-Control Judges speech Newt said at the 4:54 mark: “One of the major reasons that I am running for President of the United States is the 9th Circuit Court decision in 2002 that ‘One Nation Under God’ in the Pledge of Allegiance was unconstitutional”

At the 6:48 mark, Newt says: “…because if judges think they are unchallengeable they are inedible corrupt. Corrupted in a moral sense. I don’t mean taking money, but I mean in a sense of arrogance, in the sense of imposing on the rest of us. Whether it is one judge in California deciding he knows more than 8 million Californians about the definition of marriage, whether it is a judge San Antonio who rules that not only can school children can not say a prayer at their graduation, they can not use the word benediction, they can not use the word invocation, they can not use the word God, they can not ask the audience to stand, and if they do any of these things, he will lock up their superintendent.

Now the idea of an American judge becoming a dictator of words is so alien to our tradition, and such a violation of our Constitution as I will explain in a moment, that that judge should be removed from office summarily. “

At the 10:53 mark, Newt says: “Jefferson is the most clear example of taking on the judiciary, in the Judicial Reform Act of 1802, the Jeffersonians eliminated 18 out of 35 federal judges. Didn’t impeach them, just abolish their office and told them to go home.

Now I’m not, let me be clear, I am not as bold as Jefferson. I think the judge in San Antonio would be an important initial signal and I think the 9th Circuit Court should be served notice that it runs the risk of ceasing to exist.”

http://www.radioiowa.com/2014/03/05/judge-rules-against-iowa-elections-chief-in-battle-over-voter-rolls/
Radio Iowa ^ | March 5, 2014 | O. Kay Henderson
A district court judge has struck down a rule Iowa’s Republican secretary of state had drafted in hopes of removing ineligible voters — non-citizens — from the state’s voter registration rolls. Matt Schultz, as secretary of state, is also the state’s commissioner of elections. The judge ruled Schultz did not have the authority to do what he wanted to do. The judge cited Iowa law which lists six circumstances in which the secretary of state may remove names from the list of eligible Iowa voters and none of those six deal with citizenship. The American Civil Liberties Union of Iowa...
• Pennsylvania voter ID law struck down
The Hill ^ | January 16, 2014
Pennsylvania’s voter ID law, among the nation’s most stringent, was struck down Friday morning by a state judge. Commonwealth Court Judge Bernard L. McGinley ruled that the law, requiring almost all voters to present photo identification prior to voting, was an unreasonable burden on voters.
• La Raza Lunacy: New Mexico Court Rules Non-English Speakers Can Serve on Juries
Stand With Arizona ^ | 08-16-2013 | John Hill
Who cares if jurors have no idea what’s going on? The wave of politically-correct “progress” must roll on. And discrimination against people who don’t speak English simply won’t be tolerated. CBS Las Vegas reports: The New Mexico Supreme Court is cautioning trial courts and lawyers that citizens who don’t speak English have the right to serve on juries.
• Pa. voter ID law on hold for November election
Philly.com ^ | 8/16/2013 | Amy Worden
HARRISBURG - Pennsylvania voters will not be required to produce identification to cast ballots in November. A Commonwealth Court judge has barred enforcement of the state’s 2012 voter ID law until he makes a final determination in the case challenging the legislation.
• Appeals court says arrest of illegal immigrant violated her constitutional rights
http://articles.washingtonpost.com ^ | August 7, 2013 | Pamela Constable
A federal appeals court, in a strong rebuff to local law enforcement agencies that aggressively pursue people they suspect of being illegal immigrants, ruled Wednesday that the Frederick County Sheriff’s Office did not have the right to arrest Roxana Santos, a Salvadoran dishwasher who was seized while eating a sandwich outside her workplace in the fall of 2008 and jailed for the next 45 days.
The ruling, from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit, based in Richmond, appeared to clarify and strengthen a somewhat ambiguous Supreme Court decision last year in Arizona v. United States, in which the high court expressed reservations but did not explicitly state how far local police may go when they seek to identify, arrest and aid in deporting individuals who might be in the country illegally but are not involved in criminal activity.

The Legal Circus That Killed Proposition 8
Public Discourse (The Witherspoon Institute) ^ | July 22, 2013 | Frank Schubert
Proposition 8, the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) was passed in in 2008 with 7 million voters.
A challenge to Prop 8 landed in the San Francisco federal courtroom of Judge Vaughn Walker, an admitted queer. Then Attorney General Jerry Brown and governor Arnold Schwarzenegger and current Attorney General Kamala Harris refused to back the proposition.
Judge Vaughn Walker issued rulings favoring the challengers to Prop 8 and twice had his rulings overturned.
Then the case headed to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. Judge Stephen Reinhardt refused to recuse himself even though his wife, and attorney for the ACLU, had advised the plaintiffs’ lawyers on strategy before the case was even filed. Judge Reinhardt wrote the majority opinion finding Prop 8 unconstitutional.
Judge Reinhardt asked the California Supreme Court for advice on whether or not the state courts allowed the initiative proponents to represent the interests of the state when our elected officials refused. The court ruled that the proponents did have a standing.
Then finally, the case went to the Supreme Court where they refused to decide Prop 8’s constitutionality.
• Arpaio’s office guilty of profiling, judge rules
Arizona Daily Star ^ | Howard Fischer | Capital Media Services
PHOENIX - Self-professed “toughest sheriff in America” Joe Arpaio and the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office were guilty of racial profiling, a federal judge found Friday, before ordering a permanent halt to the practice. In a 140-page ruling, Judge Murray Snow said Arpaio’s department, under his direction, was detaining individuals believed to be in this country illegally without some other reason to arrest them for violating any state laws. Snow said that continued to occur even after the Department of Homeland Security revoked the department’s authority to identify and detain those not in the country legally.
Appeals Court Rules Arizona Day Laborer Ban Unconstitutional (9th Circus Kangaroo Court)
Stand With Arizona ^ | 03-04-2013 | John Hill
The 9th Circus Kangaroo Court of Appeals in San Fransicko has once again ruled in favor of illegal aliens and against American workers. This time the Court upheld an injunction blocking an Arizona law - part of S.B. 1070 - which bars drivers soliciting illegal alien day laborers. The Court ruled the ban “violates the constitution’s free speech guarantee”.

State judge rules Louisiana school voucher program unconstitutional
FOX NEWS ^ | 11-30-12 | ap
Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal’s private school tuition voucher program has been ruled unconstitutional by a state judge. State Judge Tim Kelley said Friday that the program improperly diverts money allocated through the state’s public school funding formula to private schools. He also said it unconstitutionally diverts local tax dollars to private schools. Kelley ruled in a lawsuit backed by teacher unions and school boards seeking to shut down the voucher program. The state education department and the Board of Elementary and Secondary Education said the programs were funded and created in line with the constitution.

Judge extends voting hours in heavily Democrat FL county
Fox News Live | 11/4/12
Democrat judge in Orange County, FL, has extended early voting by four hours in county that is 59% registered Democrat. Dems demand, Dems get.

Court exempts union bosses from laws against identity theft
Washington Examiner ^ | 10/27/2012 | Mark Mix
One November day in 2007, 33 AT&T workers in central North Carolina found out that their Social Security numbers and other private information had been posted for the world to see — exposing them to identity theft and credit fraud.

Judge blocks part of Texas effort to purge dead from voter roll
Reuters ^ | 9/20/2012 | Corrie MacLaggan
A Texas judge on Thursday temporarily blocked part of a state effort to remove dead people from the voter rolls after the purge led to thousands of people receiving letters asking them to prove they are alive. The ruling by State District Judge Tim Sulak in Austin came after four Texas voters filed suit on Wednesday on the grounds that the voter roll purge violated state and federal election law and could interfere with people who were very much alive being able to vote in November. Election officials sent about 80,000 notices to voters who were dead or “potentially deceased.”..


27 posted on 08/13/2014 8:59:45 AM PDT by Haddit
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To: Chickensoup
Why did we fight the German Nazis, Italian Fascists, Russian + Chinese + Korean + Vietnamese Commies and Shinto Japan?

We're adopting their policies. We could've saved alot of lives and treasure if we had just surrendered to become part of the world socialist commonwealth. Of course, this not only would not have prevented wars, it would've created other worlds as the war over resources would've exploded.

28 posted on 08/13/2014 9:12:18 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: COUNTrecount
Well, timber me britches! Who knew? Heh. The vote is used to preserve an illusion of "self government" and "consent of the governed." As an illusion, it works remarkably well.
29 posted on 08/13/2014 9:12:35 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Haddit
The states of Mississippi, Arkansas, Utah, Kansas, Nevada, New Mexico, Nebraska, West Virginia, Idaho, Hawaii, Main, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Montana, Delaware, South Dakota, Alaska, North Dakota, D.C., Vermont, and Wyoming all have less than 3 million people.

I just looked this up, I must admit that I am surprised by this. If you factor in the number of electoral votes these less populated states have it make total sense why The Regime is relocating "voters" to the states with larger populations.Thanks.

30 posted on 08/13/2014 9:16:17 AM PDT by COUNTrecount (There's no there there.)
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To: COUNTrecount

I’m shocked. SHOCKED!


31 posted on 08/13/2014 10:30:10 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Jabba the Nutt

Why did we fight the German Nazis, Italian Fascists, Russian + Chinese + Korean + Vietnamese Commies and Shinto Japan?

______________

Then is then and now is now. And now has been coming for a while.


32 posted on 08/13/2014 12:58:23 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Chickensoup

Obama’s due for another apology tour. He should go to Germany, Italy, Japan, North Korea and Russia and apologize for opposing their morally superior ideologies.


33 posted on 08/13/2014 2:42:14 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: COUNTrecount

US Plutocracy bump for later....


34 posted on 08/14/2014 6:10:48 AM PDT by indthkr
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To: C19fan
What would be more interesting to see if this result has been the same over time and the US has been and always will be an Oligarchy.

Hamilton got what he wanted.

35 posted on 08/25/2014 8:37:37 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Democrats: the Party of slavery to the immensely wealthy for over 200 years.)
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