Skip to comments.NYTimes Grudgingly Admits Tea Party Winning Immigration Fight
Posted on 08/13/2014 9:12:28 AM PDT by cotton1706
The New York Times yesterday featured a story about how the Tea Party has influenced the GOP on immigration: "On Capitol Hill, the Tea Party wing continues to drive the partys agenda. Last winter, as House Republican leaders drafted their 'principles' for immigration overhaul, they largely disregarded the opponents of any form of legal status for immigrants in the country illegally, dismissing them as a loud but small minority.
Niger Innis, the executive director of TheTeaParty.net, the nations largest grassroots tea party organization and convener of regular Tea Party caucus events on Capitol Hill, issued the following statement:
What were seeing here is Tea Party 2.0. Its a maturation of the movement. We are influencing the debate inside Congress. Its true that not all of the Tea Party candidates won their primaries around the country this electoral season, but in every case they made the incumbents more conservative. We see that on immigration and the stance the entire Republican leadership has taken in disavowing an open-borders, amnesty-for-all approach they were considering a year ago. Last fall we launched our Secure America Now petition and have collected more than 128,000 signatures demanding that before we tackle any attempt at immigration reform we secure our borders first. It worked. Weve won the debate. And its gratifying to see the New York Times acknowledge it.
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They aren’t winning, they just aren’t losing as bad as they could be.
All those illegals are not being deported and at the very least any kids they have will be American citizens.
There literally is no sane argument that everyone in central America has an ancestral right to live in the USA, and that they should be able to pour in, piled on tops of freight trains. We are talking people who have never used a flush toilet and most of whom are illiterate,,,even in Spanish. As our Compton friends would say, “Bit@h please”.
As they love to say, the optics are bad.
Is it just me, or anyone else think this just another ploy by the NYSlimes to incite anger towards the Tea Party to get their base worked up? Most Americans don’t like illegal immigration, not just conservatives.
Obama’s revenge is to allow as many illegals across the border as possible.
He is truly an enemy of our Republic. Unless we gain control of the WH with the right candidate we will not be able to undo his crimes. We don’t need an amnesty Pres.
“Is it just me, or anyone else think this just another ploy by the NYSlimes to incite anger towards the Tea Party to get their base worked up? Most Americans dont like illegal immigration, not just conservatives.”
I think it’s settling in their minds that they threw the kitchen sink and still failed. I think Cantor’s loss truly turned the tide.
I just wonder, except possibly Cruz, has a real shot at the WH who doesn’t support amnesty, no matter what they pretend and lie about during campaign time. The GOPe is going to push an illegal alien supporter, I don’t doubt, though they will try to lie and spin about it.
If the TEA party movement wasn’t winning Bonehead Ryno and Obama would have their amnesty in place. The ONLY reason why there is no official wide open amnesty is us. Sure there is lots more to do but we have done a whole lot already. Yesterday we won a few more primaries in Minnesota and Connecticut.
Actually I’d say they’re trying to stir the base but aren’t smart enough to know that many liberals don’t like seeing their beloved social programs bogged down by millions of illegals.
I must have missed it.
What did we win?
Illegal immigration has never been worse.
Amnesty? You mean making the Federal government enforce the law? We’re losing that one too.
I worked for Niger on his Congressional campaign. He lost the primary to Crescent Hardy, a Rino with a huge bankruptcy problem (I did the op research). Typical GOPe suicide tactics, run a guy sure to fail just to put the Tea Party in its place.
More importantly, we aren't doing like we are "supposed to" and like the GOP usually does: fight for a while, lose and then get quiet about it and accept the change as the new status quo to retreat from again. We were supposed to complain for a while, then accept it and find something else to fight over, like was done with the 1986 amnesty.
You got that right. Republicans just try to slow down the left’s progress and usually eventually lose on every single issue.
They’re like a soccer team that refuses to score and just plays defense.
On Capitol Hill, the Tea Party wing continues to drive the partys agenda.
I wish that were true. At best, we’re holding ground. Why should it be such a battle to get the law enforced? The GOPe has been pushing amnesty for well over a decade.
Theyre like a soccer team that refuses to score and just plays defense.
The GOPe likes the Democrat’s Big Government agenda and wants them to win.
Most polls that I have seen show a aproximately 70% of those polled NOT wanting amnesty.
I know it would be a lot to ask of the Slimes but if they did a little math it would be obvious that about 210 million people is very optimistic when calculating Tea Party numbers.
Have the illegals stopped? Are we deporting the ones here? I doubt it. We have won nothing.
EXCLUSIVESESSIONS: MELT DOWN SENATE’S PHONE LINES, FORCE REID TO ALLOW VOTE ON EXECUTIVE AMNESTY
God bless Sen Jeff Sessions.
How is the TEA Party winning the immigration fight?
Obama already won, they’re here and they are probably going to stay here and get welfare forever.
TEA Party can’t change that right now.
Ponder that one.
No, they just made the incumbents run more campaign ads claiming to be more conservative.
If all these illegals were given American citizenship before the 2016 election but after the 2014 election, liberals would consider that a Tea Party “victory”.
I’m not convinced that this can be credited to the tea party. There are a lot of Americans who are opposed to illegal immigration. May of them are Democrats.
“How is the TEA Party winning the immigration fight?”
My view is that they wanted to get ALL these people on the voter rolls before November, to counter our votes, republican votes, whatever. And then, THE RIGHT people could get elected, now and forever.
But they will not be on the voter rolls in November, at least not LEGALLY.
They tried everything possible with this thing. In 2006, they started in the Senate, and to appease the shaky ones, they passed the Secure Fence Act separately, then for Amnesty. Well, then it failed in the House. So having not gotten Amnesty, they defunded and gutted the Secure Fence Act, probably thinking that the flood would continue and FORCE the approval of Amnesty.
Then in 2007, they tried again, this time getting it through the House FIRST. But then it failed to get through the Senate.
We all know the story about last year. In the wake of the presidents reelection and the democrats keeping the senate, they were going to force Amnesty on the House republicans, by getting “70 votes in the Senate”. And they had their whisper campaign, that republicans couldn’t ever win unless they voted for Amnesty.
But we held the line, and it wasn’t passed in the House last year. The Obamacare/Shutdown took up lots of time. And we foiled the Establishment’s plan to pass it after the primaries by taking out their head schemer, Eric Cantor.
And now the issue is TOXIC to democrats. The supposed groundswell in support of Amnesty never happened and we forced the republicans to (despite themselves) not fall into the blame trap. Politicians will now be looking over their shoulders.
So bottom line, the Tea Party is winning the immigration fight by thwarting their desired legislation. The rest, welfare, etc., we’ll have to deal with.
Win or lose makes no difference to Obama.He is set to bypass congress regardless of who is or who is not there and grant illegals the right to remain here by executive orders Obama does not seem to care what we voters want or don’t want. Obama has his own agenda and only cares about what Obama wants and how Obama wants it right now.His lame excuses that he always uses many times over-claiming it’s the right thing to do.We will see more of this in Obama’s last 2 years as Obama indicates he intends to bypass congress it’s the right thing to do to get what he wants and he wants it done right now
For them to say this it must be horribly bad; we can’t rest in that...we have to be WAY vigilant against the cheating that will be worse than we could imagine...and illegals voting.
Is it just me, or anyone else think this just another ploy by the NYSlimes to incite anger towards the Tea Party to get their base worked up?
Oh, the NYT would never do such a thing, would they?
Even at that, and you have to assume they’re lying thru their teeth, it was fun to watch all those old GOPe horses sound like Goldwater Conservatives just to win their primaries. It was a thing of beauty. And surely there will be at least a few local folks holding them to their word. They most likely won’t get a second chance at double-X
So if he does sign an executive order making 5-10 million illegals legal, can a new President reverse that EO? Then all these new "Obama citizens" will be rounded up by the new President and sent home? Hardly!
Since you are probably knowledgeable on this subject, please, please tell me which Tea Party organization is the best one for my support. We get countless mailers and phone calls from various groups claiming to be Tea Party.
EO’s can be withdrawn by a future President but are almost never are
We are winning because Americans don’t want it.
If the NYT listened to Americans, they would know this.
I read this morning that a large number of the illegals are being sent to immigration court in NY, where the Obama appointed judge is approving 88% of the cases. New Yorkers are going to live it when the Hispanics displace the the Blacks in schools and in the hearts and minds of NY politicians.
This is what I fear, what the left in this country is doing behind our backs so it can further their power in the future. I loathe these judges, who find their political party and ideology more important, than the Constitution they were sworn to uphold. I also loathe the media for the similar reasons as if they don't report this, it didn't happen. Americans don't find out what these corrupt people are doing behind our backs.
Serious question, can an Article V Convention be used to reign in politicians, judges, government officials, who willingly defy the Constitution to further their own party/ideology? I ask because government these days run by these very progressives in both parties seem to not want to hold anyone accountable to corruption against our Constitution.
More solid proof is that the scared-**itless Dummycrat candidates are running hard-right----to dupe the voters into saving their seats. Voters need to be reminded that a vote for a Dummycrat meansthe WH ding-a-ling stays in power.
THE FACTS ARE THESE: all the polls show voters leaning Repub b/c of their strong stance AGAINST amnesty....FAR above all other issues.
A LESSON IN LOSING Amnesty sucker Eric Cantor was publicly humiliated----dumped by the voters. Cantor's ill-fated campaign strategy was a lulu---he spent $5 million on TV about his opponent's positions----except that, voters liked what they heard and dumped Cantor in favor of his opponent.
IT WORKED TO DUMP CANTOR IT CAN WORK TO DUMP 2014 DUMMYCRATS----Dummycrats are lacerating Repubs claiming "only the Dems have the courage to stand up for what the American people want"---comprehensive immigration reform and the suckup "Dream Act."
OKAY, PATRIOTS, PASS IT ON-- Dummycrats publicly admit they are the imbeciles catering to the hordes at the border. Go for it---Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, blogs---this needs to go viral.
TALKING POINTS---all the polls show voters leaning Repub
b/c of their strong stance against amnesty....FAR above all other issues.
PASS THE WORD--Duymmycrats are opposed to a pro-America border
bill----w/ provisions Obama claimed he, himself, wanted in US law.
Did you read the article about how the Kennett Square school district, in PA, is not a White minority school district? I used to live in that district.
What is happening is de facto busing. The Kennet Square had one acre zoning and Chadds Ford had two acre zoning, while I know that has been reduced, it didn’t change that much. The schools in the district have a ten out of ten rating, but the district is right next door to Chester, where the schools are probably failing. PA allows students from failing schools to go to any other school district that they choose, so they are choosing Kennet Square. The Kennet Square kids are going to private schools in Wilmington.
I wouldn’t be surprised in they are supplying bus transportation for these kids from Chester. That is how they are going to get around the failing school issue.
FOLEY - SOMERS!
Another good day for 2A.
You are right. The group that is against illegal immigration is not necessarily the same as the Tea Party group, and is actually a larger group. But the Tea Party does appreciate the support of our allies on this issue.
Just my opinion, but the national “Tea Party” groups have gotten too close to the Republican machine. Tea Party Express, for example. I support only local Tea Party groups like San Antonio Tea Party, and I support individual people that I like and individual action groups like Judicial Watch, Institute for Justice, etc. It is difficult to tell the real groups from the front groups, but try to find the ones that are not afraid to post an independent thought, one that might not be approved by the Republican Establishment, and choose groups that are actually getting stuff done (winning lawsuits, getting documents released using the Freedom of Information Act, etc).
Thanks for your remarks. It becomes very confusing.
Re Judicial Watch: The husband sends them money, but it seems like they sell our names to too many other organizations.
Yes they can and the right person WILL.
I did not know that Niger Innis is one of us. I’ve been a fan of him and his dad for many years.
It’s not a tea party issue, it’s an American issue, something which these elitist up in the north east cannot understand.
There is a lot of stirring up their base lately .
... and the diseases and pests they’re bringing along for the ride ... don’t forget about that “hot button” that may prove to be hot enough for the American people to understand just how “big a deal” the failure to secure our borders is.
I noticed 1 of the Connecticut candidates took the FAIR pledge.
The average performance has been better. Especially the last 2 Senate primaries.
The terrible incumbents are getting 60% or less, ie. McConnell, Tillis, Rounds, Cornyn, Cochran and Lamar.
Conservatives: Risch got 80%, Scott got 90%, Inhofe got 87%.
In fact, the average share of the primary vote received by Republican incumbent senators so far this year is 73 percent. Not only is that lower than 2004 through 2008, when incumbents averaged 89 percent of the vote its also lower than 2010 and 2012, the years when the tea party was supposedly in ascendency, when GOP incumbents got an average of 78 percent.
FOLEY - SOMERS!
Another good day for 2A.